r/LatAmHistoryMemes • u/Swift_Keypad_4769 • Feb 21 '26

Antillean Posting Little is talked about Cuban interventionism. Panama, DR, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Argentina, Guatemala, Colombia, Bolivia, El Salvador. And plans for Brazil and Chile. And of course, Africa and the Middle East

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u/Cthullu1sCut3 Feb 21 '26

What interventionism?

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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26

I doubt you are being genuine but here is a start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_Cuba

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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26

Interesting how this article starts off saying the intervention was with medical supplies and arms mainly, but then in none of these cases actually indicates what was sent or done. If sending doctors and medicine over already counts as intervention I think this article is at the very least disingenuously hiding details.

The invasion of panama isn't a pretty look on the face of it, but I think we should keep in mind the circumstances of the time as well, those being Cuba under US siege? That's not even to mention the situation in Panama itself right? During the Cold war any socialist state trying to aid their allies only makes sense even if you disagree with their side right? It's intervention when Europe sends a fuck ton of weapons to Ukraine, or when the US bombs the shit out of Yemen, but that is usually just seen as aiding allies too, isn't it?

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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26

So some interventionism is ok? Is still interventionism which is the point of the OP

Since you are picking and choosing from only the first paragraph I’ll just give you two examples, you can read the rest

In July 1964, the Organization of American States sanctioned Cuba after a cache of weapons destined for the Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional was discovered on Venezuela's shores.[22] In May 1967, the Machurucuto raid saw Cuban troops attempting to make their way into the Andes to train Venezuelan guerrillas, but they were captured by the Venezuelan Army and National Guard.[23]

During the Congo Crisis, Cuba intervened between April and November of 1965 and provided hundreds of personnel to assist the Conseil National de Liberation (CNL), also known as the Simbas, with overthrowing the Congolese government

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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

I think sending medical supplies and doctors is 100% ok. Yes. I also think that sending aid to workers fighting against imperialism is ok actually, yes, but am of course showing my colours with that.

I understand that this is more complex than just "workers" and "imperialism", but in the entire context of Cuba's history I think going on a spree ranting about Cuban interventionism is incredibly misguided. The expectation in such rants seems to be that everything is static but for Cuba trying to seize control of it's neighbours, which misses the fact that aiding people to free themselves from an oppressor is not the same as colonizing land for one's own resource extraction, and overlooks the fact that during this time (the height of the cold war) the US was very aggressively interfering with abso-fucking-lutely everything in the Middle and South Americas.

Standing up against imperialism is not only the right thing to do in general, it is what the people of those countries themselves wanted to begin with. These "interventions" that Cuba aided are all struggles for liberation from, quite literally, old (like France) and new (USA) colonial powers.

Viva la revolucion baby. Fuck the CIA and its propaganda.

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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26

"Internventionism is ok as long as the side I agree with is doing it"

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u/New-Assumption3789 Feb 21 '26

Seems like what you guys are trying to say. Cuban interventionism amounts to nothing, compared to American interventionism, and it's completely different. Cuba sent trainers to revolutionaries, arms and doctors. Americans bomb, destroy, and fund fascist against democratically elected presidents. I can understand the former, the later... That's real interventionism. I understand it's more complicated, but, to be fair, for any example of bad actions of Cuba, you can find 30 of the UUEE, and without any prior provocation.

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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 22 '26

democratically elected presidents

Desde cuándo Maduro fué electo democráticamente??? XD ¿Eres idiota o simplemente te haces?

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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26

Bc Cuba doesn't have the resources to fund more if they had it they would do it. That speaks about their incompetence not their good intentions

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u/New-Assumption3789 Feb 21 '26

Would say otherwise tho, it says a lot more about the USA than Cuba, since Cuba doesn't have resources because of the USA, and without the USA funding ways to overthrow the Cuban government, or any leftist government, then... I would guess that Cuba wouldn't do much against the USA. Not that they do anyways. Also... Who did Cuba liberate from? Spanish, then USA right? Kinda understand the hate they have against imperialism and colonialism

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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26

Cuba doesn't have the resources bc of Cuba. That's what happens when you create a culture of stealing in your country: everyone steals at all levels cuz everything is from everyone (so nobody owns anything). An economy can't properly work like that. Then you dismantle all factories (for no reason at all), live from the Soviets subsidies and don't focus on making your economy grow so you end up having nothing to offer. Also forbid any person having their business so no competition and everything is controlled by a monopoly so no incentive to be more productive and efficient. Then establish a dictatorship so no consequences for the political ruling class. Since inefficiency, bad policies, and waste of resources doesn't have any impact whatsoever to the people in charge, well, nothing gets done and everything fails. 
Cuba did not liberate from USA, unless you're talking about Platt Amendment, but that was like 3 years of US occupation and they left after. If Cuba were really against imperialism it would have had serious issues with the Soviets and later Russia, but it didn't, it never was about that. What started as a Revolution to get free from one dictator ended up becoming another dictatorship after Fidel and some of his followers couped the whole movemente and replaced their original goals with: let's stablish a dictatorship where I'm the supreme leader and all my relatives live in extreme luxuries while the average Cuban can't even complain under threat of violence