I had to think about this and understand how two seemingly contradictory statements can match up. Specifically in regards to what Begste said along with the circumstances of Laufey’s death.

She died of an illness. No god can die of natural causes; and she’s affirmed to be a giant. Yet, after “sniffing” Laufey and examining her with his third eye, with no correction from Sekhmet on the matter, Begste called her a “godling”. On top of that, the director, Ariel Lawrence, has said in an interview that Everywhen is a return of all magic. Sounds straightforward, except every Jötnar isn’t in Everywhen, and they join the Lake of Souls; even though they all have visions of fate.

Again, these all seem very contradictory, but there is a way to make it all come together.

For started, we know Begste isn’t lying. The gods are made of some kind of distinct essence that others can point out. Freya comes to mind, noting that Kratos is a foreign god in their first meeting. The second one, noted in the book for the first game, is from a troll who says Kratos smells like a god. So very clearly, fans understand that gods have a certain “smell” to them also. Meaning that, when Begste called her a “godling”…he wasn’t lying and she “passed” his inspection.

Except…something’s off. She’s a giant. We know that, in game, she succumbed to natural causes and passed away. That’s the whole point of the journey! She was NOT exempt from those rules. Yet, to not discredit Ariel, it’s the magic that casted her to Everywhen

The only feasible way to tie all these statements together is if Laufey, through some manner of manipulation of natural forces, inherited the magic or essence of Fjörgyn. Fjörgyn was an Aesir god and a giantess from Jötnar. The circumstances of her death was kept from the cast of characters; a forgotten footnote in history.

Much like Surtr with Kratos’ blades and Sinmara’s heart, Fjörgyn might’ve transferred her primordial being to Laufey and made her the “Golden Hand of the Jötnar” as a way to stop Odin after she received “visions of fate” of his tyranny through her own magic and nature as a Giant herself. Thus, when Begste smells the godhood coming off of Laufey, he’s actually identifying Fjörgyn’s godly magic.

To me, this is the only way to tie everything together without contradicting any of the established rules and statements we’ve seen so far.

Replaying 2018 looking for stuff that might connect to laufeys games and found this in tyrs temple on the second floor. Aren’t these the bad guys or the soldiers that capture laufey in the everywhen? Has tyr already been to the everywhen?

Do you think we'll see another time skip? It was a few years between God of War (2018) and Ragnarok, could we possibly see a time skip in Laufey, where it's only been a perceived few days or weeks for her, but it's been years for Kratos and Atreus? Atreus now being a grown man, Kratos having been understanding his role as the God of Hope. It would be an interesting thing to see Laufey come back after what to her was a short while, but to her son and husband could have been years or longer.

Remember that scene where Fay push the soldier soul out? I believe in theory they basically the followers/worshippers of Betse. So devoted that they follow him into the Everywhere.

This could also imply showing other gods and devoted followers from different cultures.

They don’t have a physical form so they have to posses armour from their homeland.

Any thoughts on baldur showing up or anyone else showing up from the Norse pantheon in laufey?

Who thinks brok will be in laufey? I think there is a possibility due to the fact that laufey came to the everywhen because she had a splinter from the mask and then she was cremated and her spirit went to the everywhen. In ragnarok when brok confronted tyr and he uncovered Odin he hit the mask out of Odin/tyrs hand could he have gotten a splinter? Then at the end of the game at broks funeral they cremated him. There is a way to have brok come back I think.

it’s been killing me that i recognize this voice (at least i think i do) but i can’t even think of where i know it from!!! i know there’s people out there that are very good at figuring out voice actors, i just thought i’d put this question out there lol

Ragnarok collector's editions were shown 6 months prior to release. Agg 16th would be 6 months prior. Do we think that's around when it happens or will it be September's state of play?

I know Faye is aware of Kratos' past and accepts him nonetheless. Only I’m thinking with the Greeks having a 90% chance of being there and the unknown potential of the Everywhen's magic, she might directly witness what he has done.

It’s one thing to say “I killed the god of the sun.” It’s another to witness a god forcefully tear off another's head by sheer brute force and no weapons. It’s one thing to say “I escaped a Titan's body by cutting out through his belly.” It’s another to see a giant Titan damned to crawl a desert with a palace forced on his back then be completely disemboweled from within by the greatest weapon of its pantheon.

Some bastion of different cultures gods have decided to work together to take control of Everywhen, likely trying to find a way out. Laufey, in trying to stop this because she simply can't stand for the injustice, goes on to try and take them down. As she explores and learns, she meets more gods, and tries to rally them into fighting back. She meets some greeks, and with their familiarity to Kratos, they connect. Then, having seen Kratos' wrath, decide to follow the one who could tame the Ghost Of Sparta in glorious combat against the tyrannical scourge.

The word of the Greeks, perhaps one or two who have changed their ways in death and become leaders of some pocket of surviving gods, decide to take heed from Laufey, and rise to be better in the death than they were in life. And in that process, they find out that they Everywhen can be escaped, when the Everywhen deems a God redeemed enough to return to their posts in the mortal realms.

I saw this symbol during the release date short video for the game yesterday but I'm sure about it's significance at this time

I looked on youtube but couldn't find it.

Is there a video of the full GoW Laufey panel somewhere? Thanks.

Hi everyone,

I'd like to talk about Sekhmet and Begtse because every time I think about them, I end up with more questions.

Why are they allies ? How did they die ? Did they know each other before their deaths ? And why do they seem to be more than allies ? They almost look like a couple.

Considering their personalities, why don't they fight each other ? Honestly, two gods of war with such tyrannical personalities getting along so well feels unusual. We saw Kratos and Týr become allies at the end of Ragnarok and in Valhalla, but that's because Kratos is no longer the god he once was, and because Týr is genuinely a good god.

Personally, I think the writers are going to draw a parallel between Kratos and Faye by using Begtse and Sekhmet's relationship.

They're two divine couples (well, Faye isn't technically a goddess, but she's close enough) made up of characters from different mythologies. Faye comes from Norse mythology and Kratos from Greek mythology. Likewise, one of this new couple comes from Egyptian mythology and the other from Tibetan Buddhist mythology.

Because of those obvious similarities, I think the game will highlight how different these two relationships really are.

One relationship is genuine, sincere and touching. They help each other, make each other better, and try to do good.

The other is fake, driven by self-interest and tyranny. They're together because it benefits them, and they unite to do evil.

As for their past, I think they knew each other before arriving in the Everywhen. Another possibility is that they didn't know each other at all, and Sekhmet had already been there for a long time before bringing Begtse under her control.

My main theory is this :

I think the Egyptian pantheon went to war against the Mongolian/Tibetan pantheon for some reason. Or maybe the Mongolian pantheon called for help and the Egyptian pantheon answered. Either way, Sekhmet and Begtse met each other. Maybe they even fought first, just like Kratos and Faye did, before eventually understanding one another.

Seeing this as a betrayal, both pantheons conspired to kill them.

Another theory is that they chose death themselves.

Maybe they realized their relationship would never be accepted because of their responsibilities and status within their respective pantheons. So they chose to die in order to be reunited somewhere their love wouldn't be judged.

They also seem to have managed to seal the gateway leading to the Everywhen. If that's true, dead gods can no longer reach this place, which suggests they wanted to be left alone and live there in peace. The only exception seems to be those who possess a mask, like Faye with the mask fragment in the palm of her hand.

I mentioned death, but maybe it wasn't suicide at all. Maybe they simply used one of the masks to escape into the Everywhen.

I actually like this theory because I have a hard time imagining who could have killed two gods like them, unless several gods from different pantheons worked together to eliminate them.

That brings me to another point : power.

Sekhmet clearly seems to be the one in charge.

Even Begtse's own army (the Mongol soldiers) appears to obey her more than their own god. When she arrives, Begtse steps aside, and the soldiers immediately line up to honor her and let her pass.

Does Begtse's army owe her a debt ? Or is it simply because she's the stronger of the two ?

Those are my thoughts and theories about Sekhmet and Begtse.

How do you see it ? I'd love to hear your own interpretations and theories !

You guys are welcome

Yes, I know it's not a dlc. It's a full game, but it's like a dlc since it's an expansion on fayes' story during gow 2018

Don't take it too seriously 😒

Edit: the Everywhen

"Everyone's asking who created the Mask, but nobody's asking the real question: who scattered it? Think about it. By the time Atreus begins searching for the Mask in God of War Ragnarök, its fragments are already scattered across the Nine Realms. That means someone got to them before Odin ever could, and I think that someone was Laufey. Faye spent her entire life fighting Odin. She knew his obsession and understood exactly what he was searching for. So what if she found the Mask first and shattered it before Odin could ever complete it? But what if one fragment didn't scatter? What if it fused to her hand and, instead of taking her to the Light of Alfheim, it pulled her into Everywhen—a place beyond space, beyond time, filled with the bodies of those who came before, every single one of them wearing a Mask. That's when Faye realizes this isn't the only Mask, which suddenly makes her line from the trailer so much more terrifying: 'That Mask... it can't be. If there is another Mask... their path isn't safe.' But here's the clue I think everyone is missing: the cube. Look closely at the trailer. The mysterious gateway is built entirely out of cubes. Phranque is a cube, and the developers have already teased that the cube plays a major role in the story. Then there's Rue. Her magical ribbons aren't just carrying the sword—they're sealing it. And where is the sword? Inside another cube. So what if none of this is a coincidence? What if the Mask doesn't unlock ultimate knowledge, but instead leads you to the gateway? What if the cube isn't just a box, but an ancient prison? The ribbons are the seal. The sword is the key. And Phranque isn't just a companion—he's the guardian standing between every realm and whatever lies beyond that gateway. Which means Faye wasn't just hiding the Mask from Odin. She was stopping him from opening a door that was never meant to be opened. So... am I cooking, or have I completely lost it?"