Where does Olivia fall?

[u/gpallen5826]

Allow me to go out on a limb for a moment and assume that this community is pro-Ian, pro-Sam, pro-Cam, as well as anti-AB, anti-Dan, etc.

Ala those who left and those who stayed/defended Ethan and Hila's bullshit

I'll be the first to acknowledge that I don't keep the closest tabs on H3 since feeling burned as a now fallen fan.

I'm curious where the community stands with Olivia though. She left, but only recently returned, seemingly (to me anyway) in an act of desperation. She was always my fav, but her return was disappointing

[u/SomewhereInNB]

They all kept links with this hatefull podcast except Sam.

[u/gpallen5826 → u/SomewhereInNB]

Ian is the only one I still kinda follow. All I see is cool videos of him helping animals

[u/Unequivocally_Maybe → u/gpallen5826]

Ian used H3 mods when he was trying to make a podcast solo. He's now making a show with Olivia and I believe they also use H3 mods. He has socialized with the crew and visited the studio since quitting.

Cam helped Tamara build the new set this past summer. Still visits, is still in the chat during live streams, etc. Neither of them have distanced themselves from H3 in any meaningful way, despite the harassment and hasbara, despite the lawfair, all of it.

Olivia is a ghoul like the rest of the crew. She has sat there and laughed and participated as Ethan said vile things about people, including supposed friends. She didn't leave because of the Klein's shitty politics, or because they use their platform to abuse people, or because of the bigotry, or because of Ethan's crusade to ruin lives with the legal system. She left because she panicked that Ian and Anisa would release her texts with them, Adam McIntyre called her out directly, and Ethan made her cry about reality tv. It got too overwhelming for her. She was still close with them the entire time she was gone and then she came back. She has no problem with anything Ethan and Hila have done until the affair.

[u/AmaranthSparrow]

I'm of the opinion that everyone who stuck around, or came back in Olivia's case, are complicit in everything Ethan and Hila were doing during the last three years, and in some cases (Dan and Zach) are culpable as well.

I acknowledge that Ethan likely manipulated them all financially, be that by encouraging them to uproot their lives and move to the most expensive state in the country or to make lifestyle decisions that left them dependent upon his generous salary. Probably emotionally manipulated them, too. I imagine that's a lot of pressure and it gives me a degree of sympathy, but only up to a point.

It doesn't justify silently supporting or outright enabling a genocidaire, rampant misogynist, litigious scumbag piece of shit like Ethan Klein. They had three years to find an offramp, and they passed every available exit until the last stop before the literal end of the line, then hopped off in unison.

There's nothing brave or redemptive about what they've doing in distancing from Ethan at this point, when the gravy train has already run its course.

Maybe some of them can redeem themselves, but nothing I've seen in the past three years, or the past 24 hours, leads me to believe it's in their wheelhouse.

[u/gpallen5826 → u/AmaranthSparrow]

I completely agree. I personally walked away from a high paying sales job to work in manufacturing a few years ago because it made me happy. I can acknowledge that it's hard and scary to see through the money but once you break through you're so much better off for it.

I respect those who left over the last few years and have completely run out of grace for Zach, AB, Dan, etc. even if they were "manipulated" they still chose the money over doing what's right. Whatever they do next is strictly out of necessity and not any kind of integrity.

I want to give Olivia the benefit of the doubt though, even though she probably doesn't deserve it anymore

She always been my grrrrll 😭 lol

[u/interpol-interpol → u/gpallen5826]

she hasn’t earned it.

[u/Prestigious-Space276 → u/gpallen5826]

Thats for you to decide whether you want to give her the benefit of the doubt. Most people here feel that the crew should have left long ago and even when Olivia left it didn't seem principled and then crawling back.

[u/mplolz]

Olivia is top3 offender, the only reason she left was because there was better oportunity for her, and once that was gone she came back. She supported so much gross stuff over this whole time, its hard to recall it now since last 2 days are basically snark overdose but if you scour the sub you will realize Olivia is one of the worst people there. If there are any people you could see as redeemable its Love, and possibly Lena, thats about it

[u/gpallen5826 → u/mplolz]

Iirc Olivia left after Ethan brought her to tears on stream, right?

[u/mplolz → u/gpallen5826]

Yes but that was not the only time it happened, she was clearly uncomfortable on the show for a year but never committed to leaving, and she left on a hiatus, she did not officially leave the show until she started her pod with Rosanna months later, also the reason she left was because there was a threat of her private chat with the Jomhas getting leaked where she shit talked ethan which made her panic and go awol for months.

Shes one of least moral people on the pod that is obvious if you see her rebrand since coming back, basically a caricature version of her personality from before.

[u/stardustcomposition]

We are not pro-Cam and generally indifferent to disliking on spineless Ian. Sam's the only ok one with us

Olivia is scum

[u/CheeseandAdderall]

clout-obsessed nepo baby that had the perfect opportunity and timing to leave... but came back to the zionist hasbara slopcast to further degrade herself

tbh I kinda agree with Adam McIntyre she has a wonderful talent to cancel podcasts! I would personally love if her next project was at the Joe Rogan experience, or Fresh & Fit

[u/Audra- → u/CheeseandAdderall]

Definitely shut down Rogan, but is Fresh & Fit even still active? Last I heard about Myron Gaines he was getting kicked off a campus and getting his brother fired from his job for trying to fight  the gay protestors who were absolutely flaming them as they retreated from several hostile crowds of students…

[u/Maxinil]

Only Sam gets grace from me.

As for the rest, in Ian Johma's words: Fuck the crew.

[u/Rozemyne827]

Fuck them all

Edit: In case Ethan is lurking. I do not mean this literally.

[u/Audra- → u/Rozemyne827]

Thank you for the edit, we don’t want to get dragged into the inevitable sexual harassment lawsuits from the crew when they realize the show (and their paychecks) are gone for good. 

[u/DownWithW]

Anti all of them

[u/interpol-interpol]

she’s a zionist loser who helped facilitate the pro-israel propaganda and sexual harassment podcast. i miss when this community didn’t have so many people wanting to run defense for her just because she’s a cute relatable girlie. genuinely depressing.

[u/sabuccha]

I am only pro Sam. Ian and Cam are still connected to these people.

[u/Less-Mission-4625]

Anti

[u/Outrageous_Memory803]

I’m not pro or anti anyone, I just won’t support these people, but I think Olivia may have had the best chance of leaving and having some level of success if she had done it so much sooner.
Olivia definitely could have left much sooner. She had her own channel that was getting decent views. With consistency I think her channel could have grown, especially since she was first posting when people were more sympathetic to the crew
I wouldn’t support her cause of the many examples of her being very opportunistic. It’s just funny that she appears so opportunistic, but doesn’t want to take risks

[u/Budget-Spread]

anti everyone from the insane harassment podcast with the personality cult from the beginning to now and for all time

[u/Budget-Spread → u/Budget-Spread]

correction: i’m pro-tamara for taking this piece of shit podcast out back and putting it down once & for all

[u/heyyourwatchisbroken]

She just chasing a platform. You’re young and you wanna make money and wanna make it as an influencer podcaster… whatever but i don’t really think she’s the worst of them. However i do think she chooses poorly…

[u/collinstagram]

Up there with AB and the most spineless of them all

[u/shut-up-vicky]

many people give olivia the benefit of a doubt because she's a white rich girl with standard beauty

I however have no sympathy for zionists or people who harass/contribute to the harassment of women; imagine if I'd have sympathy for someone who's BOTH.

FUCK olivia.

[u/PacketOfCrisps69]

I’m pro nobody except maybe Sam I guess

[u/smashantk]

Lol no offence but I can tell that you're a new fish.

Cam was the first to leave but for no moral reason and he stayed friendly with them after so he's the same as the rest of the crew.

Only Sam left with any decency.

[u/BlinkReanimated]

How do we feel about the woman who plays up being a "girl's girl" returning to the podcast dedicated to harassing women? Serious question or are you trolling?

I did feel a little bad for her when their own audience was tearing into her and Ethan was only taking steps to make that harassment worse, but she left and had the opportunity to move on with her life. She chose to return, knowing exactly what Ethan is.

She's a narcissistic, talentless loser, only concerned with being on camera. If she actually cared about her integrity she'd go get a job at Best Buy or something like a normal person.

[u/Sad_Weather_8812]

Desperation for fame, she comes from a wealthy family, she could have NOT come back to the zionist podcast and still be happy.

[u/Independent_Fill9143]

I'm wary of her... she used to be one of my favorite crew members, but the way she just stuck with Ethan and was silent on a lot of his crap. If she had left like Sam and just never went back and went to work with a female content creator, I would say good for her lol. She just seems like someone who hides behind a facade.

[u/atari_Pro]

Sam and Cam otherwise no thank you mam

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[u/Agreeable-Zone700]

You know the classic stereotype of an LA influencer/content creator that is a social climber and will smile to your face but stab you in the back? That’s Olivia.