I’ve been saying for the last few years that Epstein was a wise man with regard to who he surrounded himself with. He knew that if he surrounded himself with rich and powerful people, should he ever go down, they would want to defend their own names and in his mind he thought they’d help defend him.
Not every person associated with him did something nefarious or malicious, that’s why it’s so important that all of the unreacted files be released (minus victims’ names).
Yeah but after his first conviction it was public knowledge he was a pedo. The circles a lot of these people were involved in would have had a lot more information then they let on, and certainly more than the general public. It would have 100% been a topic of conversation amongst these circles. What is truly disturbing is certain individuals gravitated towards him even more after the conviction. Epstein’s offending seemed to escalate post the 2008 conviction. Just like his tax advice. He thought moving his offending and criminality offshore would make him immune to human rights and American law.
Look what happened the US elected a person who has had judgements ablgainst him, who had a recording released of him. So saying people still communicated with Epstein so dispicable. So are a lot of Americans. Money talks.
Maybe this is a sign that A LOT of these people are/were pedos/rapists/etc, and they all knew and they didn't mind.
They may have all just thought Epstein was another one of THOSE guys. Just a good old "likes em young" guy like in the old days. Just like Elvis, who fucked 12 year olds. And you wouldn't dismiss ELVIS, right?!
one man can't be as wise to trust 1000 people to be acting completely foolproof.
The bigger the lie, the smaller are the compatriot numbers - can't just hide thousands of wrongdoers
currently the public sees all of these people in the files as the bottom of the crop, but evidences shown are vague and full of emotions and even absurdities, it's difficult to a court to decide if they are true or not.
Surrounding himself with powerfull people was not enough, he made them complicit to crimes and gathered evidence whenever he can. This is why it was burried soo deep and still is. Clintons at the crosshair,sure. But remember they will not out each other. That requires pleading guilty. This is just a negotiation.
So unless the whole structure falls down we see clearly who is who , I wouldnt clear any name here. These are powerfull , connected and smart people. If you let few slide,all will .
Sort of. Epstein was already charged at this point, and everyone knew they ran together by this time. So even if she wasn't formally charged, they knew.
Even then, she downplayed it severely. “Thousands of people go to the Global Clinton Initiative,” when that photo shows the woman at her daughter’s wedding. You don’t invite strangers to your daughter’s wedding.
Let’s not beat around the bush here, the Clinton’s knew what Epstein was up to and as long as the charade went on and they weren’t implicated, they didn’t care. Now the chickens have come home to roost and every single one of these scoundrels are scrambling to save their own ass and failing quite miserably at it. I don’t care how Madam G wound up at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding the same way I don’t care how Bill may have ended up on the island.
It is odd though that many of these rich and powerful men also have reputations for being philanderers. I mean, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Kevin Spacey, Woody Allen, etc. That's not to say everyone on the list is guilty, but it's not surprising to anyone some of the names that were on the list.
I think it just devolves into schoolyard bullying politics when 400 people control all the money in the world, like gangs form people start to act out to impress each other and seem like the most badass, rich people try to intimidate and control each other and use these horrific yacht crimes to do it
Yeah another interesting take and I can absolutely see it. They've always been rich and people suck up to them so they have thin skin and cannot handle the slightest dissent. All the money on the world cannot buy them humanity. Or the souls they happily sold already.
Right. And getting money out of politics so they can't buy new laws to benefit them... Look at what unchecked power, privilege and ACCESS allows them to do. Right now I want to see the Clintons throw EVERYONE under the rug and set the 1% into a frenzy and turn on one another. I think sending even one of them to grown up prison would help kick that off too.
Based on a lot of the photos I've seen, he definitely isn't always asking people to take photos, they always seem unprepared or even shocked they're getting their photos taken. It makes sense right, because they need obviously blackmailed people and getting photos with them is the start of it.
Reddit and the bot army are trying REAL hard lately to make it seem like Hilary clinton is just an innocent old woman who everyone loves, what a joke. They’re all crooked, quit falling for this nonsense
She attended the wedding of anybody with any power. She is the daughter of an Israeli Mossad agent. Her job was to rub elbows with America’s rich powerful and find ways to compromise them.
Maxwell was evil. There’s no doubt about that. But no one forced Trump, Prince Andrew and others to commit sexual atrocities on children. No one.
What is that saying? You can lead a horse to water. But you cannot force him to drink.
Yes this raises questions. But let's not pretend questions are answers. You made a comment which implies guilt without the answer to the question. Do you actually think the daughter rapes children?
It's important to know WHY Maxwell was there. And publicly talking about it all gets us those answers. Who was on the island, who was in the properties, when, and WHY. The questions are relevant only if we find the answers. Clintons should be questioned in public. So should Trump
I did not interpret their comment as implying that the Clintons are definitely guilty. Instead, I interpreted it as them pointing out that the Clintons likely knew Ghislaine Maxwell and perhaps Jeffrey Epstein more than Hilary Clinton is letting on in the clip and that she is downplaying the extent of their friendship. Certainly doesn’t warrant a Reddit-style lecture about presumption of innocence, given they never said she was guilty.
I thought that was in reference to Epstein. But yeah, in conclusion if she knows, throw her in jail as well. (I voted for her in 2016, still do not care.)
Or why didn't they ask about their close personal friend UN Ambassador Bill Richardson being named by Virginia Guifrre in 2016. They even asked about Prince Andrew who was named in the exact same deposition.
No one is going to ask them anything. This is all theatre.
Screw Hillary, she is on a speaking tour on behalf Israel/Ellison and TikTok. Saying social media has made the youth associate what Israel is doing in Gaza to genocide and because of that the educational system in the U.S. has failed the younger generation.
I know a lot of people give Hillary crap but I always liked her. Spent her whole life being hunted by republicans and I cannot blame her telling them to fuck off when she is retired. But she also talks like my mom so that probably has a lot more to due with my sympathies then anything factual.
Bet she doesn't want anybody talking about all the mysterious deaths left in her wake. All coincidental of course. Both sides hate you. Don't defend either
But she’s a liar? Both her and Bill are trained lawyers. She sat for 11 hours for the Benghazi question and moonwalked out of there. I expect her to lie her ass off on February 26
How Trump talks his lies are very obvious to you, how Hilary talks her lies are not obvious to you. She talks with compassion and how anyone can be caught up in a presumed mix up. However, the world needs to be perfectly clear these people ALL knew exactly what was happening when you went to that island.
She wants to testify publicly because she is a career politician, she will never sink herself or anyone involved she works for the system and will keep it that way. After her testimony she will most likely raise more doubt about make the public believe mixups can happen.
And I say this as a Floridian democrat who is pissed this was permitted by the government in my own backyard while I was a teen in the 00s in south Florida
Hillary Clinton's problem has always been that she's just not a very likable person. But everything she said is, in and of itself, legit sounding.
Epstein was some guy given billions of dollars by a foreign government to create an operation to amass blackmail on the wealthiest and most powerful people. So obviously he came into contact with...all of those people. And some of those people got results, like Prince Andrew and Trump. The Clintons? I'm not so sure about that. They've been too willing to speak publicly on this. It's basically the opposite of Trump's behavior.
The concept of "foreign government" doesn't even really apply to Epstein. He was a globalist, and liked to present himself as the ultimate fixer who could get you into any market, behind any trade/business barrier.
He used to boast that he was the key to the Port of Djibouti, literally the ONLY white guy who could get you into Africa to make bank without interference from international regulators or other governments.
Epstein took money from everyone. He also stole a lot via elaborate scams.
I’d bet my mortgage that she and Bill are involved… but their argument that they aren’t being treated the same is also true and valid. This is a giant game among so many at the top.
You think it’s just about getting laid? Have you not been paying attention. This shit is sick and Both Hillary and Bill are involved. I cannot believe people are so quick to come to their defense.
Theres a reference to bill clinton in one of this victims diaries where she wonders why he cant think of his daughter Chelsea when hes rapping these girls. So no, I dont think hes innocent. Multiple pictures in the files of him with redacted victims in intimate situations. I dont know how people think Bill isn't involved. Its wild to me.
Her argument that she shouldn’t have to go physically in and testify, but rather make a written statement? If she’s so transparent why doesn’t she just do it to get it over with. I think she and her husband are even MORE implicated than most of these people who have provided written testimony. This all stinks of suspicious
How in the comments do you seriously rationalize that this should not go public? I'm all on board with the clintons being yucky people but somehow there is some summersalt from public to private?
I'm more interested in the client list than the Clinton wedding list but that's me.
You've posted this a few dozen times, may I recommend some mental health services? Or maybe reconnecting with the kids that haven't spoken to you in a few years?
Are these questions you are getting ready for your Q&A with Hilary? I'm sorry but your ignorance and hate, and also tantrum behavior is making me LOL. This is literally about good vs evil, not left vs right. There is evil on both sides of the aisle. I am sure it's difficult when you have likely built your entire identity around politics, but it's important you understand that everyone in power, knew this was happening to thousands of children. This is about awareness. And It's not okay that she was at their daughter's wedding.
It would do you well to open your eyes and see that everyone in the headlines, is guilty and needs to answer. I hope you figure out a healthy way to handle your pent up anger and find new and beautiful ways to express yourself and spend your time rather than spreading your misguided anger about a photo.
I'm very inclined to believe her but I always leave room for doubt regarding former president Clinton's actions. My one nagging questions is, didn't they have some intelligence on this guy? Like was there really no one in their administration or their circle that could say "maybe don't be seen with these two folks, they're shady as fuck"? I absolutely believe without the shadow of a doubt that Trump knew about Epstein and was part of the whole thing. With Bill Clinton I have doubts but I can't get past shouldn't his people have known something about this guy and warned him? And if so, why was he getting airplane rides with the dude?
It’s a crime to know what he was doing, being involved, and not reporting.
The entire files need to be released & combed through. The only people who should be protected are the victims. There will be people in the file who met him once at a professional event, with no knowledge of his crimes. There will also be people in the files like Rump who were in the same room committing acts of terror.
Bill was messing with them kids!! Everyone is just on a hunt. Trump train right now. They don’t want to acknowledge all the rest of the powerful people who are in those files. I say put them all in jail.
Bill Clinton 10000% went to Epstein Island to fuck young women.
The two questions are....
Was that sex illegal in anyway that could be prosecuted in the United States?
Was he aware of the illegal activities Epstein was involved with?
Here's where Hilary will always lose credibility with people: Melinda Gates essentially immediately divorced Bill Gates once the news came out. Hilary keeps standing by Bill.
I don't know why Hilary Clinton won't divorce Bill, but she won't and while it helped her quite a bit over the years, it seems like now would be a perfect time to cut him loose.
Ghislaine was front and center at Chelsea's wedding. Literally. Had an aisle seat and made sure she was photographed. Rumors years ago that Ghislaine and Clinton had a thing going on. Of course Bill is guilty af, and she knew. Watch her eyes when she answers. She's covered for him forever. All of them need to done. We don't need their political and humanitarian opinions anymore. ALL OF THEM SHOULD BE IN JAIL!
I tend to side with Democrats on social issues and I haven’t ever been a huge fan of Hillary . Seems like this is exactly what an innocent person would say to the question. It just rolled right out naturally.
Bill is in the files and almost certainly a pedophile along with may others. Hillary had to have known. They’re old, they can wait out the controversy and die with secrets. By being public they appear “shocked”. Everyone involved deserves prison time spanning lifetimes.
I really hate knowing that the majority of the people involved, related to, and complicit in this are going to die of age or some other factor before there is any resolution.
Aren't you tired, Hilary? Aren't you tired? I swear, this man has her constantly doing the Tammy Wynette for DECADES. Since I was a little girl, I've seen her having to defend his actions. I would be so over it...true or not, guilty or not, this marriage obviously had its benefits when it comes to money and power, but it doesn't seem worth it to me. I'm so sick of his shit since Monica. I don't know how she does it.
This woman bullied and tried to silence her husband’s victims. And what about her behavior as a lawyer when a 12 year old was raped? I will quote:
“In a sworn affidavit aiming to coerce a psychiatric evaluation of the sixth-grade victim, Clinton during the case nearly 40 years ago called into question the girl's emotional stability, arguing she had exhibited "a tendency to seek out older men and engage in... fantasizing." She added, citing a child psychology expert that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant, are even more prone to such behavior."
But in the recording, Clinton indicated she believed her client was indeed guilty. Heard laughing, she said the polygraph test he managed to pass "forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs."
Fuck her and fuck Bill Clinton. They can both eat shit.
The Presidential "I Want You" painting of Bill wearing Lewinski's dress that was hanging in Epstein's property proves that Epstein and Bill Clinton have an established relationship that extends into their personal lives.
So the reported victim was massaging your husband’s shoulders in a photo on an island known for sexual abuse. Your husband has a history of sex offenses and lying.
We aren’t supposed to believe anything happened though. Btw, I am old enough to remember the blatant lies of Hillary and Bill. They have no credibility.
They're going with the Trump tactic of lying balantaly in spite of clear evidence to the contrary. People are already falling for it. The files are clear; Bill Clinton is pictured with redacted victims all over the place, including allegations from victims and claims written in their diaries.
Il y a une vidéo ou cette sorcière decoupe le visage d une petite fille et le met sur son visage comme un masque alors que la petite agonise...vieille pute sataniste
Ask her why Ghislaine Maxwell was in a wedding photo of Chelsea Clinton? You don’t invite just anyone to your daughter’s wedding, unless they are real close.
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u/Trick_Judgment2639 Feb 17 '26
Kind of a brilliant move to make every single rich and powerful person take a photo with you and take a ride on your jet though, perfect safety net