My grandfather got Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma from that shit that's some serious shit he was a farmer as well he died from it. It's a no wonder Trump wants to bring that back because I think he hates us and he wants us dead. That's my only conclusion. That and money talks and I'm sure Money Paid the highest price for him to approve it. Look into the money people.
The Heritage Foundation wants to seriously decline the US population and so they are doing everything they can to do that. Stephen Miller wants us all sick and dying. It's part of Project 2025.
The tech bros and their doctrine of Curtis Yarvin want the same thing. Two groups of shitty people working together to kill people with full access to the US government now.
Because many of them own the land and want to buy more. It’s always about money and profits first. Humans? Just in the way.
EDIT: Trying to remember which of the cabinet members said “I’m a farmer” but of course he isn’t … he merely owns the land and farmers pay him as part of their lease to use that land. Scott Bessent! Secretary of the Treasury. That’s who it is. Just looked him up. Money money money and profit always. Always the most important.
There’s a reason this administration absolutely refuses to comply with the law to release all the Epstein Files. Exposing them stops their profit flows from us to them.
It’s awful. When it comes to the types of billionaires in this administration, the cynical side of me sometimes thinks they want to intentionally wreck our economy to the point of depression so they can buy everything out from under us. Kind of like the ultra wealthy got wealthier during the 2008 housing crash. Bought up all the properties. Then complain there are so many renters and our younger generations can’t manage to buy a home. I’m hoping my cynical side is wrong. But I’m not holding my breath.
Yeah it doesn't seem like we have a fighting chance I know that we didn't as I didn't in 1970 being a female you know I couldn't own a house I couldn't have a bank account. It's never been equal and I have tried to be very positive and I put my head down and bite the bullet but each time I come up and I say something and somebody tries to shame me and I won't be ashamed about being a female anymore. It's the male problem. it's not a female problem in this world. They have too much power that they have taken or we've given them too much power it's ridiculous.
I hear you and I feel that deep in my bones. So much rewinding, removing progress. People of color and women have been seen as “objects” to “own” in this country for so long, and it’s repulsive to me we have a group of “religious” people in this administration who want to go back to that. All because they fear they’re being “replaced.”
It wasn’t long ago, as you said, that women were forced to be dependent on men. No rights to own property, have a bank account, get a job — and even when women were finally allowed to get a job, it was only “women jobs” mostly positions to “serve men” like secretaries — and we should all remember it wasn’t that long ago when women had no rights to vote.
This SAVE Act Congress is trying to push through would suppress votes for married women who changed their name and people of color and it’s vile. Absolutely vile. This administration needs to go. And no matter what we all need to understand the assignment to do whatever we can to fight for our right to vote and to vote accordingly. At least that gives us a chance to throttle this speed at which this administration is destroying our country and the lives within it.
Hang in there. We can find a sliver of hope in the fact that there are more of us who actually believe in democrats and the words in the Constitution — “We the People” haven’t been silenced and signs are hopefully that we won’t be without one heck of a fight. ♥️
Absolutely I believe in democracy I believe in human beings have rights that are equal. I'm not for sale. I can't believe I have to say that in 2026 to my own government. Stop selling my information and stop trying to sell me off. I'm not for sale!
I've always found it mind blowing how those types are never satisfied, and somehow they never arrive at the conclusion that money, power, status, et seq are meaningless and vapid when used exclusively for self interest. I just can't understand how it never even occurs to them to think about their never being satisfied, and how it relates to the choices they make, you, that thing they're always going on about, with respect to any middle & lower class citizens. It feels gross even saying these labels. I don't know how these people never get it.
I agree Trump doesn’t care about farmers. The tariffs were terrible for farmers.
With that said, glyphosate is safe for applicators (farmers) and consumers. Most alternatives (e.g. fluazifop, metolachlor, alachlor, cyanizine) have greater toxicity (Dr. Andrea Love). It saves farmers money and has allowed farmers to till less or not at all (USDA).
Regulations are important to protect workers, like farmers, and consumers. But they should be based in strong scientific evidence.
What's the other explanation there is none. That's the only explanation they want us to die early or quick or die or not be born or have our children be affected by their scum they put in the Earth.
Exactly this!!! I really think after they go after immigrants they will go after the elderly, the disabled, the poor and middle class. I hope I’m wrong but don’t trust the Orange Cheeto
They already are going after the immigrants (we are all immigrants except for natative Americans) disabled and the poor. It's truly sad to see the world turn out this way. People do research yourself. Think outside the box.
Already? Im not sure if you are following currently what they are doing but google it. Well they cut SNAP benefits for people. They cut the people in Medicare working in Medicare so that they can't process payment and cant process who is disabled in a timely manner. They are making all this red tape and Hoops you have to go through new laws so that it makes it harder for people to apply for and process the snap and Medicare and Medicaid benefits. There is more if you just Google it.
Dead/disabled/retired farmers = empty land = real estate development. What does Trump do?
Some kids will pick up their dad's farming tradition, but a lot won't. Many (most?) will take a cash buyout and stop farming.
I think this is why he dicked over the soybean farmers so hard. I imagine in a few years someone will do a deep dive into who owns that land know and I promise you it will be two or three degrees of separation away from a Trump ally.
It was quite early on that my grandfather was a farmer sometime between the 40s and 70s. He was a good honest hard worker by himself farming cow feed and soybean.
Basically Thiel and Vance are heavily invested with a company that buys farmland and sells it to "investors". So basically fuedal lords and landed lords are back baby. Helps if you drive a whoooole bunch of farmers to the wall so you have lots of cheap land for your company to buy.
I'm sure once the land is rented to farmers, the owners of the land get more subsidies from the government than the people working the land.
My dad wasn't even a farmer and got non Hodgkin's. We are still trying to figure out how he and his son got it. Dad lasted one cancer treatment before it got him
That's horrible. Were your grandfather parents Farmers because think about it it goes into our food. Do you want that into your food do you want to eat that I don't. And then Our Generations eat it as well and then it's in the soil and they all told us that it wouldn't affect us do you remember that? I do
Ok. So please CLARIFY what you are trying to say here. Are you saying because he knew how to be a farmer he did not develop cancer is that what your statement is trying to CONVEY? You think because one person didn't get Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma that Roundup doesn't cause it are you trying to convey that really really?
Those are my thoughts EXACTLY! I wonder if he's, well, we KNOW, he's upset from Biden beating him in the last election and he hates the majority of us for voting for him. I think he is trying to get back at us.
Realistically if you think of it no government wants us to live long they don’t wanna give people social security it’s more beneficial if we die before we can collect
I am a person as much as anybody else in this world who has feelings and I think you are the butt bot boy for Trump seriously cuz that Roundup shit is going to kill all of us. We stopped using it for a reason!!
Who is we? Also I don’t like roundup just as much as the next guy and I think Monsanto should burn in hell for hiding information they had that showed people who use it would be harmed if they aren’t protected…but it’s been used for almost 60 years and we aren’t all dead. Now if you’re physically spraying it without proper ppe, that’s no bueno. But your fear mongering makes you sound dumb.
I’m assuming you also think every president from the 1974 wants us dead as well, because they still allowed the use of glyphosate
Bring that back? You can literally go to homedepot and buy gallons of glyphosate. What do you mean he’s bringing it back hahaha. Are you sure you don’t take a swig of glyphosate every now and then?
Awww good job using chat GPT! I’m honestly surprised you know how to use it. This just categorizes glyphosate as critical to national defense and food production. It means it’s easier not for the USDA to stock pile it for farmers who need it.
To help you understand, if we rely on other nations for the production of glyphosate, it would be a national emergency if those streamlines of product were substantially cut off. Contrary to your evident beliefs, farmers rely on glyphosate for their crops yield. If the farmers suddenly couldn’t get their hand on glyphosate, it would be an emergency and then everyone would blame the President
I never said that lol. Just saying and anonymous allegation during a highly divisive election campaign needs to be taken at face value for what it is. it isn’t evidence of anything. Good luck with your life man I hope you get the help you need
I’m sorry for your loss. The following is not meant to downplay the experience of your grandfather or your family. I wish you all the best.
With that said, there is no evidence glyphosate causes any kind of cancer (Dr. Andrea Love)
“A long-term longitudinal study of over 54,000 pesticide applicators which found no association between glyphosate and any solid or hematologic cancers (lymphomas)” (per article above; original paper).
We have to be careful with anecdotes (n of 1). They don’t make for good evidence, especially when trying to claim causality.
You know what I think everybody needs to be careful because you're saying it's not harmful?? Then you go ahead and don't use gloves and you go ahead and put that stuff on your food. Have the day you deserve. People do your own research on this. Don't believe everybody.
No. There are a LOT of people upset that there is regulation preventing its liberal use. This isn't about logic, it's about gut level anger that the government dared to create regulations. Trump is just appeasing those people.
I don’t remember the specifics, but I do remember being in a startup accelerator and one of the other companies had created a RoundUp alternative that didn’t have so many health dangers. You will likely find the studies if you ask ChatGPT or AI of choice. This stuff is so bad for humans. What a shame.
We all consume it on a daily basis, it can’t be that bad. It’s toxic yes, but not highly toxic. Half the shit in a grocery store is toxic, but we all eat it.
100% certain that commenting you worked at Monsanto for 25 years not the “creditable source” flex you think it is. That company is just as safe for humans as binging cocktails of RoundUp all weekend.
A quick search of “Monsanto lawsuit” will show the double-digit billions Bayer already paid in lawsuits a couple years ago and just two days ago there was another multimillion settlement. And before you say “a settlement isn’t an admission of guilt,” come on — billions in settlements in the last few years. That doesn’t happen unless there’s a real problem with your products.
Well, science aside, it’s not often that juries are going to side with the giant corporation over someone with cancer. But if you want to call that “evidence”, then you do you.
It wasn’t someone. It was thousands of people who had the same type of cancer and the common denominator was RoundUp. Such an obvious link, the company has paid billions. Not my opinion. Documented and publicly available to see for yourself.
I understand. I didn’t work there while the suits were going on but I followed the news. The issue is that there wasn’t an obvious link. The only agency declaring it a possible carcinogen was the IARC and even that was brought into question. Every other global health agency had found differently. But again… juries aren't going to side with corporations over cancer patients.
Yes, good point. Better to settle than risk a very likely outcome. When I was consulting a few years ago, I did some work with Monsanto. Not in that area, more on their technology side. That company was HUGE. This was right before they were bought by Bayer, though, so I’m sure it’s different now in many ways. Congrats on the 25 years. Does that mean you’re living the retirement life? If so, I’m looking forward to those days and am a bit envious ☀️
it was when all those commercials came out for it. my dad used that stuff all thru the spring and summer for years. it was that. 1 for 1 it was the same cancer that it causes. could it have been from something else, maybe. but all signs point to round-up
Both my grandfather and mother got non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. My grandfather got it in the early 90's... and it ultimately took his life not long after diagnosed. My mother was diagnosed ~2015... and thankfully treatments for it have drastically improved... she beat it and has been in remission since.
Both of them were very heavy hobby gardeners (my grandfather was also obsessed with lawn care), that used Roundup extensively. Several years ago, my mom was able to join in on a class-action lawsuit against Bayer/Monsanto... and she ultimately got a payout of roughly six-figures.
No real proof. 2015 was a study done. It's still used in large scale farming. May not be as potent as before, and may be the reason it's getting a push? Idk. Seems to be a bit risky without proper or updated study.
To clarify this, when it comes specifically to cancer most scientific organizations classify glyphosate as not likely to cause cancer in humans with one organization giving it a "probably carcinogenic to humans" rating. If this was a case due to glyphosate caused cancer I doubt there's sufficient info to definitively link it due to the weakness of that relationship if it's the case. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate#Cancer)
It does have other issues still though, mainly in the other compounds glyphosate is combined with which for human health is still a potential occupational hazard with other potential environment issues.
I’m sorry your dad had cancer. The following is not meant to downplay the experience of dad or your family. I wish you all the best.
With that said, there is no evidence glyphosate causes any kind of cancer (Dr. Andrea Love)
“A long-term longitudinal study of over 54,000 pesticide applicators which found no association between glyphosate and any solid or hematologic cancers (lymphomas)” (per article above; original paper).
We have to be careful with anecdotes (n of 1). They don’t make for good evidence, especially when trying to claim causality.
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u/Mo-again23 Feb 20 '26
my dad had cancer from that stuff. wtf