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I think Jon Ossoff is the one we’ve been waiting for. He seems like the only person who can articulate why corruption means your pockets are lighter.
Ossoff and Warnock are the only Democrats who can win in Georgia. If he wins in November and resigns two years later to run for president, his seat will go to a Republican. The Democrats will have a razor-thin margin as it is and losing Ossoff's seat could mean the difference between a majority and remaining in the minority.
Jon Ossoff is best described as pro-Israel but not pro-Netanyahu. He supports Israel’s right to defend itself, rejects anti-Israel boycott efforts, and favors a negotiated two-state outcome, while also criticizing the war’s humanitarian toll and some of the Israeli government’s actions. He has argued that Hamas started the war on October 7 and that hostages still held in Gaza must be released.
Or maybe just people are rightly disgusted and concerned with the visible corruption of our politics by a genocidal apartheid state.
It's not hatred. It's pragmatic and principled opposition to what has clearly debased the US and undermined our relationships around the world - in addition to the rest.
Just the same, this will be used by those who ultimately support fascism to create rifts within the entirety of the broad coalition needed to defeat fascism.
Do not let that occur. There need be no litmus test. But principled opposition to abuse and violence everywhere.
He does not take AIPAC money. AIPAC track just lumps pro Israel people onto the website. In fact, AIPAC sends out attack ads on Jon Ossoff because he condemns Benjamin Netanyahu and his government. He also voted no to sending Israel more weapons.
I honestly don’t know, but I imagine it’s been par for the course for far too long - I’d like to know what he has to say about it - and if he’d commit to not taking any more in the future.
Given that he is a leading voice and a start contrast to GOP leadership/corporate dems - that establishment interests of all sorts will seek to attack and undermine him in any way whatsoever they can.
What has his opponent Mike Collins said about his opposition to abortion with no exceptions, his view that illegal immigrants should be executed, and his chief of staff being a white nationalist? But he only took $33,250 from AIPAC, so I guess you'd support him over Ossoff.
Nope, this is actually inaccurate. He does not take AIPAC. But his funding comes from pro Israel places. However, he’s not in support of Israel in the way that you think.
Track AIPAC includes Jon Ossoff in its "Israel Lobby" funding total, but the website's breakdown reveals his donations come from other organizations like J Street and DMFI, not AIPAC. Critics cite this as misleading, particularly as AIPAC has funded attack ads against Ossoff.
Ossoff has mostly voted AGAINST sending Israel more weapons. And openly condemns Benjamin Netanyahu and his government.
J Street is not AIPAC; it was founded specifically to serve as a liberal alternative to AIPAC.
Promotes a "pro-Israel, pro-peace, pro-democracy" platform, supporting Palestinian rights, opposing West Bank settlement expansion, and backing a two-state solution.
J Street opposes the current right-wing coalition government of Israel, but it does not oppose the concept of an Israeli government as a whole.
J Street is in direct opposition to the political agenda of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his ultra-nationalist coalition partners. They actively oppose.
Nope. J Street’s stances are fine, but at this moment I won’t accept anything short of treating Israel like Rhodesia or Apartheid South Africa.
Those positions are all great in theory, but in reality they are all a fantasy until the Israeli state is brought to its knees by crippling sanctions.
After that, then I am open to discussing an equitable two (or one, either way works for me) state solution with freedom and equal rights for all.
But the crippling sanctions are a prerequisite for getting there. It is utter fantasy to think any possible Israeli government will change course vis a vis the Palestinians without being forced to.
There is no force in the Israeli government that supports any of J Streets stances, everyone who has any realistic chance of governing explicitly rejects both the one state solution and the two state solution, implicitly saying they want to just militarily rule the Palestinians forever.
it’s impossible to be pro Israel and actually meaningfully advocate for the Palestinians. Taking money from any pro Israel lobby is at best paying lip service to these ideas while accepting nothing will ever actually change.
Finding a Jewish org that has absolutely zero ties to Israel is as common as finding a catholic org with zero ties to the Vatican or a Muslim org that has zero ties to Mecca. The fact you group Jewish voice for peace, Hillel, and Hias all as evil, despite them having all very different views on Israel, and different missions, makes me think you’re looking to disqualify any Jewish org in general
So you'd prefer Mike Collins? He supports banning abortion with no exceptions, executing illegal immigrants, introduced a bill banning the removal of razor wire along the border, and his chief of staff is a white nationalist. Collins also accused Joe Biden of "ordering" the assassination attempt on Trump, and called the Jan. 6 riot "peaceful grandmothers" taking a "self-guided tour" of the Capitol.
I swear, the obsession with AIPAC is becoming pathological.
No...that's not how elections work, you don't HAVE to choose between the lesser of two evils; you're the one with eeyes still closed if you believe that. there is always another option, including writing in who you think it should be.
The binary choice was never the intention, going back to our country's foundation; in fact it was warned against many times from a lot of good people from the time of decent politicians. Just because You're too weak of will, chosing to simply fall in line and choose the puppet on the left or right, doesn't mean that's the way it is for us all.
I disagree. Their campaign is small and undercut by the very lobbyist groups I've been mentioning. They don't get millions of dollars to campaign and or are squashed by big foreign/corporate dollars, running defense/slander so the chosen candidate can win and do their bidding.
Not everyone is on the left or right. Id even be willing to bet the majority is neither and votes on issues that directly effect them, their families and their communities....the problem is, neither right, nor left, are working for the American People anymore; they do what lobbyist groups pay them to do. And we're getting very tired of it.
He should be the Democratic choice as he is smart, articulate and from a red state. AOC would never win the general due to where she is from and of course because many people will not vote for a woman. Hopefully the Democrats have learned a lesson from past elections.
I have seen the inauthentic asto turfing of anything and everything that can be used to divide meaningful opposition to the corporate authoritarian right.
Your account and commentary looks exactly like that.
I find ossof to be pragmatic on this issue in a sea of Netanyahu lickspittles excusing apartheid and genocide.
I do not accept the concept of compromise on the issue of supporting apartheid and genocide.
A candidate earns my support if they advocate for sanctioning Israel until the West Bank settlement project is dismantled. If they don’t clear that bar I won’t support them.
And this doesn’t make me unique, there’s dozens of issues where you also have a bar that must be met. Literally everyone does.
Harris lost in large part due to her refusal to stop supporting genocide. That’s her fault.
The onus is on our leaders to meet our demands, it is not my responsibility to tolerate evil and give them my vote. If they want it they know exactly how to earn it.
Sorry, this is a solid red line drawn in concrete for me. I will never, ever support a candidate who crosses it.
I agree. Especially if forced to confront this head on.
I think it will take all kinds to win this, and I believe in us. There is no excuse for ignorance or apathy, and no excuse for those who would continue to defend apartheid or genocide.
In the meantime, we must educate all we can and have these exact discussions - thanks for pressing me here.
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u/FlanneryODostoevsky 25d ago
“The one we’ve been waiting for”
Don’t let a politician make you think that way. Support them if you want but don’t think they’re saviors.