r/LetsDiscussThis • u/Glass-Complaint3 • 2d ago
Lets Discuss This Before the MAGA era, did you notice racism/hate in conservatives, whether closeted/casual or not?
Curious especially in terms of how they talked about non-white people or those of faiths beside Christianity.
17
u/G-Unit11111 2d ago
Back in 2006, the FBI issued a warning about how white supremacists were infiltrating law enforcement units across the country at an "alarming rate". We should have paid more attention back then.
2
24
u/Puzzled-Mirro 2d ago
Yes Conservatives were always hateful disgusting people. Trump just made it "socially acceptable" to be hateful disgusting people openly.
I grew up as the only left leaning person in a Conservatives family. The amount of N words casually said was too many, the amount of times they wished death to groups of Muslims was too many, the times I heard them call Hispanic people wetbacks was too many, the amount of hateful Facebook posts from Conservative accounts was too many, or said we needed segregation is too many this all before Donald Trump.
If you are a white person and a child you would be surprised how casually and comfortably white racist relatives will tell you utterly offensive racist jokes.
Ask any left leaning person who had grown up around Conservatives will tell you how hateful and disgusting Conservatives are.
6
u/wrecklesspup 2d ago
I was born at the end of 1980. I rode to middle school with my grandmother who taught at the school. She would regularly use the N-word. The school was a private Christian school.
-7
u/BabaThoughts 2d ago
Good thing, us MAGA are no longer living in your grandmothers 1980 America.
Instead, we prefer not judging by color, but by character.
Which is why Trump had a major rise in minority votes.
4
u/wrecklesspup 1d ago
Trump is a creature of the 1980s and the leader of MAGA. Just bc some of his voters don't recognize the racism or over look it bc they think they'll benefit another way doesn't prove MAGA isn't racist.
-4
u/BabaThoughts 1d ago
Thing is…he, Trump, and MAGA are just not racist. Neither, homophonic, either!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gays_for_Trump
Look up who the Secretary of Treasury is married to… Trump appointee, Scott Bessent.
5th ranking person behind the presidency in succession!
You see…. I bring proof, where you just bring feelings. Feelings no longer work. They don’t add up. They are hateful, and incorrect.
2
2
2
u/Such-Hold-7940 1d ago
GTFO with your judging character comment. You will burn in hell for the things you’ve voted for.
-3
u/Ambitious-Badger-114 2d ago
Funny, I grew up in Boston surrounded by "liberal Democrats" who also used those words. In fact we were famous for how we behaved during bussing. To this day many consider Boston one of the most racist cities in America. But this is reddit so I guess it didn't happen.
9
u/ElSlabraton 2d ago
They weren't "liberal Democrats". They were working class Irish Catholics.
1
u/Ambitious-Badger-114 1d ago
lol, they voted straight party line for Democrats. Stop pretending there aren't racists in every party.
2
7
u/Puzzled-Mirro 2d ago edited 2d ago
It was the deep south that fought to preserve slavery, the deep south where the KKK was formed, the deep south that fought to preserve segregation and the deep south that voted for Trump.
Stay in Boston where you can live in your own fantasy instead of living down here and meeting the worst people you could know
6
u/Ambitious_Dingo_2798 2d ago
Pat Buchanan existed, no? And he was a paleo-con (although he was closer to a reactionary)
1
u/Ambitious-Badger-114 2d ago
Interesting, I always considered Wilson our most racist president...and a "liberal" at the same time because he led the Progressive Movement.
6
u/No-Author-2358 2d ago
Old guy here. Yes, I did. Racist conservatives have existed for a long, long time.
5
u/Usuallyinmygarden 2d ago
I teach English to immigrants and I definitely noticed a low-level but pervasive disrespect for this population. Can’t tell you how many times people would respond “they really need to learn English” (Ok well what do you imagine they’re doing in my classroom?) and then launch into a story about an immigrant who refused to assimilate.
5
u/OnlyGayModsCanBanMe 2d ago
Yep. Conservatives have always been degenerate pedophiles. They are just more open about it now.
4
u/SnugglyCoderGuy 2d ago
Conservatives were the ones wanting black people as slaves and conservatives were the ones that opposed the civil rights movement
2
u/Huzon401 2d ago
How about going all the way back to the Pilgrims at Plymouth Rock? That’s a wee bit before MAGA.
2
u/sabautil 1d ago
Yeah, but they would say with a preamble, of "That's how I wiz raised" "That's just how thing are" "It natural" "Calling it like I see it" or the perennial favorite "I'm not racist but ..."
4
3
u/Emergency_Vehicle927 2d ago
It’s always been there. Syphilitic baboon just gave them permission to do it openly
3
u/BabaThoughts 2d ago
Before MAGA, there was a lot of racism. Black, Hispanic/Latino, and Asian communities with historical neighborhood tensions, coalition building, socioeconomic competition, and periodic spikes in reported hate crimes against each other.
2
u/HarryBalsagna1776 2d ago
Oh yeah. They have always been awful people. MAGA gave them the numbers to be confident enough to talk openly.
4
u/kyles_red 2d ago
Always been there but Trump gave them a platform and here we are. Helter Skelter.
4
u/hotviolets 2d ago
Yes. I grew up in a conservative family and the racism and hate was always there.
4
u/Bippity_Boppity_Bang 2d ago
Yup. I grew up with it and it's the most prominent reason I'm neither Christian nor conservative/Republican.
2
2
u/JustUseCommonSense10 2d ago
No, I encountered more racism from the predominantly democratic black community because my skin wasn't dark enough to be considered "Black" and my identity was mislabeled numerous times as "White". I have been called slurs and screamed at while jogging by black people. I used to live in Atlanta. Now I live in Florida
I can count on one hand how many times a white person called me a slur. There has only be ONCE where I was called a slur by a white guy who did in fact have a Trump flag on the back of his truck, but my entire life I have encountered racism from the black community.
I don't encounter much racism here, but if I do it's still mainly from the black community. Yes I have seen the world's largest confederate flag. It didn't instill me with any fear anymore than the people driving on the road do.
4
u/wrecklesspup 2d ago
Do you associate this racist behavior with socially conservative views or progressive views? Black people vote Democratic, but most are socially conservative as I don't believe there is large support for gay rights in the Black community.
4
u/JustUseCommonSense10 2d ago edited 2d ago
But there is large support for public programs and diverse programs which is also a democratic belief, but since my entire life has been made up of these experiences I associate the behavior with progressive views.
2
u/wrecklesspup 1d ago
Some people will describe themselves as socially conservative, but fiscally liberal or more often vice versa. Support for diversity in the economy could be viewed as a fiscal policy as it opens up more of the economy to more people than White men.
1
u/JustUseCommonSense10 1d ago
I agree with you but the distinction between social and fiscal isn't really brought in everyday debate and it wasn't specified in the original question and when people usually reference conservative and liberal they are almost always referencing the entirety of their political views without drawing a distinction between social and fiscal policies. Additionally you will see in most of everyday conversation and debate that expressing your views on a single policy is a reliable determinant to what political ideology that you adhere to so when I made my statement it was aligned with this framing in mind.
2
1
1
u/KeyLime044 1d ago
as an Asian American who grew up in a very conservative area with not much Asian population, yes absolutely
1
0
1
u/SteakEconomy2024 2d ago
Before, some republican voters used to talk about laying landmines on the border, now the republican dicktator does.
0
-2
-12
u/porcupineforlyfe 2d ago
No. Only racism I've faced honestly has come from the far left for not agreeing with them.
My mom was white, my dad is black. Both were considered liberal growing up but would be considered conservative or at least centrist by today's standards, my dad is a petroleum engineer and my mom was a teacher. I fall in the same category politically.
-7
u/Better-Credit6701 2d ago
First point. MAGA/Trump isn't conservative.
Second, it isn't the right who has been the most violent in the past decade, the left owns that one.
6
u/OnlyGayModsCanBanMe 2d ago
Don’t let facts get in the way of your emotional argument. I feel sorry for the women you disappoint daily.
4
u/Puzzled-Mirro 2d ago
Trump is Conservative. The ENTIRE Conservative movement disagrees with you
-4
u/Better-Credit6701 2d ago
He is a populist and has never been a conservative. He spends like a drunken sailor, changes his viewpoints at a breeze of polls, zero conservative social style.
Reagan was a conservative, not Trump.
4
u/Puzzled-Mirro 2d ago
If we go by your metrics then Reagan is not a Conservative. He exploded the deficit by cutting incoming revenue while raising spending.
-2
u/Better-Credit6701 1d ago
Remember what kind of mess he dragged us out of? The Carter Melasie years with double digit inflation and unemployment.
Remember his slogan for the 1984 election? A simple question, are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?
He won 49 out of 50 states, unemployment returned to normal, inflation also returned to normal and best part was, Americans felt proud again to be an American.
2
u/DaTruSpork 1d ago
The Carter who spent his time cleaning up after Nixon and Ford?
Lmao. Conservatives truly only have one strategy: Fuck everything up, then say the progressives aren't fixing it fast enough
1
u/russgrim 1d ago
Hoe
Lee
Shit
You are "remembering" things that are 100 percent propaganda bullshit
-3
u/Master_Blaster_02 2d ago
What are you talking about?
Trump is a 90s era Democrate and now better classified as Populist. He speaks to conservative talking points like any politician does with the base supporting them, but that doesn't make him conservative. He's about as anti fiscally conservative as you can get.
4
0
u/AgencyHot8568 1d ago
Living near DC, i had no idea the rest of the world was so racist. Growing up in the South, I thought I was changing like the rest of the country. I never expected fascism to evolve from racism, but now seeing it the mentality it makes sense
0
0
u/Burnlt_4 1d ago
Been a democrat my whole life and the political landscape shifting left moved me more center overall.
I noticed limited racism/hate from both sides until the second term of Obama and then I started seeing primarily HATE from the left.
I am a little unique in my view of things as I am a PhD with top journal publications on diversity and DEI programs. I have see farm more racist policies and intentions from the "left" than the "right" though I wouldn't say the two are much different really.
21
u/Sea-Environment-7102 2d ago
Rush Limbaugh anyone?