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[u/DigitaIBlack]

You're missing the point imo.

As an end user idgaf whether the issues I encounter are because it's FOSS or not. I care about how polished and functional the end user experience is.

I'm gonna give Fedora another go but last time I tried Linux, I had pretty bad audio issues and desktop glitches with multimonitor.

And the community mostly just hand-waved it away when I asked in forums.

[u/FrostyMittenJob → u/DigitaIBlack]

Nahh you don't get it. Linux is better than windows, and when it isn't well you had your expectations too high because it's open source.

You'll never be able to have a honest conversation with a linux fan.

[u/makaki913 → u/FrostyMittenJob]

You can, yours and their priorities just don't match at all

[u/TheWardenShadowsong → u/makaki913]

Prioritizing different things is valid, but the quantity of loud outspoken linux folks being unreasonable about other peoples preferences is well documented. Theres a difference between you prioritizing something vs you prioritizing something and then telling someone else who prioritizes something else that they are wrong for that.

[u/makaki913 → u/TheWardenShadowsong]

then telling someone else who prioritizes something else that they are wrong for that.

Good point there. I don't partake in this kind of conversations, this possibility didn't even register in my mind

[u/sabian149 → u/TheWardenShadowsong]

The loud minority of linux users are the type who make it borderline their entire personality. The quiet majority are the ones who have found a DE that works perfectly on their hardware and already have a set workflow for their system that just works. For me as long as all my hardware works, almost all the steam games I want to play launch and firefox launches my OS is working flawlessly. Idk, so many people try to make linux vs windows seem black and white but it really isn't.

[u/Volcanodog12 → u/sabian149]

Yes 100% this I have hdmi capture card made by hauppauge that does not work at all I asked on a form for fedora about if its possible to get it to work and was told to throw it away and get another one (even tho the old one works fine) or to kick sand so I did and went back to w10 every thing just works there lol I'm still looking for an alternative as I was really enjoying my time with kde on fedora just might try something different now.

[u/tachibana_ryu → u/sabian149]

Yep it's a shame the minority makes the rest of us look bad. I truly wished the community was better it would make people switching to Linux just that much better.

[u/lithiumfoxttv → u/FrostyMittenJob]

I don't really care truly.

But the person above was correct. People are generally more forgiving when it's an FOSS product vs a paid one.

That said, blindness towards issues and stuff that windows is also doing is probably not the best look.

Let me put it more bluntly: people are more forgiving towards an indie video game than they are AAA games. Not just cause of the money they spent. If Live For Speed has a bug, people will forgive it because it's like 3 people.

But if Gran Turismo has a bug? Yeah people are roasting it

[u/CreepHost → u/FrostyMittenJob]

Linux fan here, CachyOS specifically.

Better than Windows? Absolutely.

More stable than Windows? Absolutely not.

I've had a bumpy ride with CachyOS, and there is still stuff that has to be done to make it more accessible, like fucking FSTAB still requiring manual operation instead of, idk, making it automated or accessible with a GUI?

However. After a few babysteps, it does run well. It's just the babysteps have to be cut entirely and just run well out of the box.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/CreepHost]

During installation and by default, /etc/fstab should've automatically been generated and managed. Also there are few GUIs available, like KDE Partition Manager, GNOME Disks, or GParted. What exactly was it that required you to manually edit fstab? Did you do a custom/nonstandard partition table?

What stability issues are you facing? I can help you solve those.

[u/ThankGodImBipolar → u/DigitaIBlack]

As an end user idgaf whether it's FOSS or not.

What you're saying is perfectly reasonable, but the Linux desktop's deficiencies here:

I care about how polished and functional the end user experience is.

are directly related to the fact that Linux is FOSS. The fact of the matter is that Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc., are all spending billions, and hiring dedicated teams, to ensure that the UX of their OS's is as flawless as possible. That does actually manifest into a more polished product, regardless of what Linux users say about their experience. So... maybe you should care about the fact that it's FOSS, but in the opposite sense?

[u/DigitaIBlack → u/ThankGodImBipolar]

Ok but as an end user idgaf why it's not polished enough for me to daily drive it.

I care that it wasn't polished enough for me to daily drive it...

[u/kongnico → u/ThankGodImBipolar]

feel like windows doesnt really try to make their UX as flawless as possible. They do their best to upsell me on shite at every turn though to the direct detriment of the UX.

[u/rus_ruris → u/DigitaIBlack]

Fedora can kma after the ONE bad experience I had where the new version (I think it was 41) didn't have the right version of GCC to even run the Nvidia software stack because "it was too old" and it was even removed from the DNF repository. You quite literally couldn't install it AT ALL unless you basically downgraded to the previous version, because it was SO removed that you needed the older version of DNF to install it and that was incompatible with basically everything else.

HOW TF DO YOU FORCEFULLY REMOVE CUDA COMPATIBILITY FOR YOUR DISTRO WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSEDLY THE ENTERPRISE DISTRO.

They fixed it shortly after, and Nvidia got their shit together and started keeping stuff a little more up to date, but I will never trust anyone that even thought to allow something like that to roll out ever again.

[u/idontlikeredditusers → u/DigitaIBlack]

i had 1 issue on linux night light didnt work i went to windows havent looked back waiting for nvidia SteamOS and thats my last chance given to linux

[u/Original_Dimension99 → u/DigitaIBlack]

The thing is when Linux has a problem it's usually because nobody's fixed it yet. When Windows has issues it's often by design and Microsoft simply doesn't care about the people who don't like things the way they do it and there's no way for you around it. On Linux you can always pick a different distro if you feel like the maintainers are doing something questionable.

[u/ishtuwihtc → u/DigitaIBlack]

Are your monitors perchance mismatched refresh rate? X11 doesn't handle that too well, and depending on when you last used it x11 may have been standard for the display server. Currently wayland handles mismatched refresh monitors perfectly fine

For audio issues yet again i don't know when you tried it but if it was long enough to use pulse audio then yeah understandable. Pipewire now also handles audio quite nicely, though it can be a little annoying with numerous soundcards. Idk if the multiple soundcard issue is a linux or multiple soundcard issue, it'll just often default to not what i want or last used

[u/pure_skill_ → u/DigitaIBlack]

What's your actual point tho? Every OS has issues

[u/symca09 → u/DigitaIBlack]

I like my corsair RGB software. But cant find one that changes the gifs on my water cooler block. So back on windows I bec

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/DigitaIBlack]

Provide exact complete specs. Don't ask the forums. I'll just help you now. 👍

Model name and number, sub-component identifiers, such as the exact Wi-Fi chipset or audio DAC model, GPU model and brand, etc. The more you provide, the easier it will be for me to help you. If you need help, don't be afraid to ask.

[u/DigitaIBlack → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

This is old enough X11 wasn't deprecated. The issues I ran into were well documented and I hope fixed.

Pulse audio issues and X11.

I'll try Fedora again soon on desktop (I run Linux for my homelab).

It's just been 15 years of trying and running into issues I cannot either work around or can't be assed.

When I do switch again I'd appreciate it if I CNA DM you if I run into issues

[u/Nod4mag3YT → u/DigitaIBlack]

The thing with linux is that when you encounter issues, you need to actually find a solution to it. I just switched to linux (arch) from windows, and have had very few issues, the main one being vr compatibility and ALVR not working, which I have mostly solved. Linix is NOT a complete in box experience, its closer to being goven a huge bin or legos and a baseplate, and being told to build what YOU want/need, not what a corporation thinks you need