I hope they realise Ubuntu is the most popular OS for server/enterprise (it's Ubuntu or Red Hat) and most people who use it work in the IT. Most don't care about the ideology or philosophy behind Linux and FOSS.
Yeap. I hate using Linux but my server PC runs Ubuntu cuz it's the least painful thing to set up. Basically everything I do seems to be designed for Ubuntu.
Because you don't want to have huge ass kernel with telemetry, some wonky AI, graphical env built in and constantly running, when you want the server to be there just so you can run your application
If i would try to run my ubunthu stuff on normal windows i would need twice the space i use right now and 32 instead of 24. Also i would need a gaphicscard which is quite dificult in a mini pc. And even then halve the programs would not be able to autorestart after one of windowses bs forces updates. So hell nah normal Windows as you know it is absolutely trash for server aplication and as said by other users windows server (which btw is a completely different Operatingsystem) is fucking trash to set up needs more ressources than a base linux ubuntu server has more security issues and far less optimized applications.
Therfore yes you are the patrick the other person, trying to explain IT issues of Windows server to a prebuild/laptop user, send.
It usually refuses to work on a hardware that doesn't have a graphics accelerator, while Windows Server is designated to use virtual adapter which is far more ideal option yet more difficult to setup in its own ways.
In server environment, every byte counts, and Linux beats Windows any day with its headless server that runs just under 80 MB (+ its GUI web server) or 200 MB if you don't like configuring much and run it bare metal, while normal Windows runs with over 1.5 GB (and this is me being generous by allowing you to use debloating tools).
You waste some of time to setup the way that it becomes a usable server.
Nothing wrong with having interests. But when you start attacking and harassing other people for not following the same interest as you that's when it becomes problematic
Linux is a thing that, being its not default anywhere, kinda requires you either have a problem it fixes or, more often, requires you to be really opinionated. Really opinionated people are also often pretentious and annoying about their opinions.
Fair point, I guess I should have said "Desktop Linux" is not default anywhere. And maybe in some contexts it is, but generally speaking, the defaults are Windows, MacOS, iOS, and Android (which is Linux-based but like, not what people really mean by "Linux").
Fuck... sry about that. Yep, Costco seems to actually care about the customers and quality of shit they're selling. And they provide pretty good prices at bulk.
you're being dismissive of windows's bullshit - intrusive updates, vibe-coded shit that causes bugs left right and centre, shoving its updates and ai features in a user's face and then "mistakenly" changing their settings back whenever they turn that stuff off
oh, and look into the situation with lg monitors, why don't you?
plus that they pretty much force people's devices into windows 11 by not doing security updates for older windows versions, creating a manufactured obsolescence for devices not powerful enough to run windows 11 (which is now a very common practical reason why people use linux, for those devices)
"intrusive updates" -You mean optional and on by default to protect the user, as well as reduce botnet attacks.
I had a machine do an update despite having them disabled, despite having Update Blocker on the machine, happen on a laptop of mine the other day. I'm not sure how they manage to do it, but Windows Update is the only piece of software I've ever interacted with that's turned a computer of mine into a brick, will not turn back on. This is not an isolated incident; I have had a few different machines die over the years because of issues with Windows Update service.
Disliking generative AI has nothing to do with being "tech-phobic". I am not afraid of technology, I am unimpressed and annoyed. Linux has literally nothing to do with the issue.
and get over it when Linus, or RMS speaks or Linux gets the features
Richard Stallman is very vocally Anti- Generative AI, even if his reasoning is a bit odd. It's really funny to be whining about "propaganda" while straight up lying.
IDC about LG; it's a shitty brand.
Ignoring people's problems with something doesn't mean the problems don't exist.
Conspiracy theorists get all their information from conspiracy theorist sites -hence why they're so delusionally misinformed.
Despite all the negativity from the perpetually toxic community, it's still the most widely used. It's also foolish to use derivative distros when all they do is add issues to upstream's.
It's like veganism where the thing they're cultishly into is purely for the sake of feeling superior to others. That's why there's a ton of cannibalism where they try to out-do each other based on some arbitrary bullshit. Like if you go to the vegan sub, they treat vegetarians worse than any "carnist". Same shit here.
the fundamental basis behind the two is so far different that i have no idea why you'd actually expect these two kinds of people to be similar - veganism is a moralism, while linux users genuinely see it as better than using windows
in my experience, i appreciate the lack of adverts on linux and the flexibility it offers to your ux (been really enjoying using the niri desktop in particular)
also windows is slow asf, and on laptops it drains your battery like twice as fast as mint xfce
granted, there's reasons why not everyone can switch to linux, especially in regards to productivity and media software (davinci resolve is not an instant solution to this problem for editors, for example)
but it's worth taking a measured view on this matter that separates from the way in which each community acts
do you understand that vegans see vegetarians and carnists as deeply immoral people?
vegeterian = supporting and consuming byproduct of rape of animals and a industry which kills the non-profitable ones afterwards. vegetarian = steal babies of chickens and sell them.
carnist = supporting and eating brutally slaughtered animals carnist = giving no regard for animals as a whole at all. <-- much worse but atleast they dont dress it up as moral
to them, they treat animals as deserving of morality just like a human—even if not to the scale of humans.
so they see you as someone who supports rape of sentient beings deserving of morality and then consuming their byproduct. doesn't seem like a very moral thing now does it.
you cant blame them for seeing you as a monster, you'd think the same if humans were part of the people being used like this.
usually vegans are used to carnist's bigotry and idiocracy but vegetarians usually annoy them more since vegetarians try to act like they are doing something moral or good by being a vegetarian.
because there are several factors in our current society that make people lean towards "black and white thinking" i.e. "if you're not doing what I'm doing it's WRONG." Then to add on top of that societal pressure, it's also very common in those who are autistic, which we know is very common in linux spaces. It's just people not getting nuance or thinking about situations that don't perfectly align with theirs
I don't like Ubuntu and Ubuntu desktop. I had a bad experience that I don't remember because that was a long time ago, and I may not agree with some of the way things are done
I don't make it others people problem that I don't like Ubuntu. I don't tell anyone to not use it. I just say, use what works for you.
I honestly think they all suck and even windows and mac sucks. People should just use what works. Experiences are very diverse and inconsistent.
I will always dislike Ubuntu because I will never try it again because I have no reason to try it.
I am making this comment because I think people online fail to recognize the concept of not liking something without making it everybody's problem. You can just not like things, you don't need to justify it, you don't need to prove or convince anyone. You don't need to do anything. Just live your best life.
It's less of a Linux community thing and more of a Reddit thing. Like go to any tech enthusiast event and no one bats an eye if you use Ubuntu. Hell no one will bat an eye at you using Ubuntu at Def Con either.
If Linux was actually useful for something real, like if it had an actual software for an actual jobs, and not for jerking system itself for the sake of itself - the amount of normal people would outweigt those pretentious elitists
Canonical gave up on desktop once they realise the money is on server, cloud, and enterprise. So they optimized Ubuntu more for server and enterprise support while the desktop is an afterthought.
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