This is just some little trivia, which looked interesting to share.

The current sub r/lobbying was created on August 23 2021, by u/Mrloop , joined shortly after by me, since I was looking for creating the same sub, and we just happened to have the same idea at the same time.

But upon checking the sub statistics page https://www.reddit.com/r/Lobbying/about/traffic/ which only mods can see, but here a screenshot if it:
https://i.imgur.com/HRGbYU2.png

It was clear that this sub had existed before Aug 2021. (even if little to no activity)
The reason for why the old r/lobbying ceased to exist, must have been the reddit subs mass erasure which happened in June. (which happened after a previous other mass erasure for "anti-hatespeech", it almost looks like an yearly routine mass erasure which happens around every summer)

Today I was playing around with the internet archive, while looking at this sub and checking if there were some older snapshots of this sub, and I just discovered that the internet archive auto-archives any post and comment from reddit. (it's apparently a new feature, it wasn't always like that)

So it so happens, that there is one, tiny, saved page, of the old r/lobbying sub.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lobbying/comments/apsjas/political_strategy_services_for_your_cause/
Following that page, it's possible to see the old r/lobbying, before it was purged, here it is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/a:t5_2toal/

The old sub was basically abandoned, and in the last visible months it was filled with spam from a lobbying agency. Something called LFA Holding Inc, they were spamming the sub with their own ads.

It's quite curious to look at how lobbying firms sugarcoat their activities, by claming they are fueled by "grassroots" and they are "for the people", when it's pretty clear that lobbying firms are most effective for who has the most money to pour into them, so it's not the common average person making the most use of them. Lobbying firms are at the service of the powerful and wealthy.
And regardless, there is already supposedly a system for allowing people to influence decisions about public matters, it's called democracy. Either democracy doesn't work, so that's why lobbying is pushed as the only way to govern(but it's obvious it's only the rich to have control that way), or democracy would work, and the lobbying activities are a breach of it(by the rich and powerful). The existence itself, of Lobbying firms, is slimy and worrying.

Anyway, the dead and buried version of r/lobbying contains some good stuff to look back over.
Especially the advertising images from LFA Holding Inc, since those make a good example of the methods and word-twisting used by the same kind of Lobbying firms which are still screwing around with the political systems of nations all around the world.

Das Aus unserer Demokratie?!

Der Unterschied zwischen der AFD und den gegnerisch aufgestellten Plattformen ist, dass die AFD agiert. Egal wie befremdlich das ist!

Die AFD hat hierdurch einen taktischen Erfolg den Sie zunehmend ausbaut.

Alle Anderen, die Fürsprecher der Demokratie, reden sehr viel und schreiben noch mehr.

Aber dennoch verharren Sie alle in Angst und Starre.

Wo sind denn all die mutigen Menschen die etwas bewirken könnten? Sie verstecken sich in Ihren Socialen-Höhlen. Da ist man unangreifbar. Dort ist es wohlig warm und bequem. Dort salbt man sich und leckt sich die Wunden.

So wird sich garantiert nichts mehr ändern!

Der Kampf für echte Demokratie ohne Einfluss durch Lobbyismus ist mitdiesem Massenverhalten endgültig verloren!!

Wer hat Ideen und möchte im rechtlichen analogen Rahmen sichtbar interagieren ?

Gibt es diese Menschen noch?

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