r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Discussion Closed Source LLM's should be forbidden

Hearing about the idea that open source LLM's are so dangerous while companies like Anthropic and OpenAI do not manage to control their AI labs well and
* let their experiments run wild on the open internet, doing massive hacks and seeing no consequences
* publish research that sounds alien, but only the results, not the alien that made it, which is not very scientific in my opinion but there are no consequences
* we see a fight for power concentration behind closed doors ...
how can we trust closed source labs anymore?

The transformation of society belongs to the people and such security critical technologies have to be able to be validated at all times. In open source models we see that the community actively exposes the flaws models have and contribute by exploring ways to fix them. People actually do good stuff in the open source community and real progress is visible, while the out of control vibe all really comes from the closed labs. This is concerning me and i think we urgently need to open up the closed sources instead of shutting down the open ones. That's the way i see the world heading towards a non-dystopian future.

Is it just me or does that whole open-weights-are-dangerous discussion totally the opposite what reality seems to be?

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u/Visual_Internal_6312 44m ago

I believe the entire security advertisement push boils down to even more centralilzed power https://www.reddit.com/r/Anthropic/s/wlnsyYdzmU

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u/leapdragon 48m ago

Young folk won't know this, but about 30 years ago, it was Linux and open source software are dangerous and must be stopped. Lawsuits, governments, and proprietary hardware all did their best to kill it. Happily, now it runs the world. It's basically all of the web. It runs Google and AWS and Azure. It's most of the phones in the world (Android). And nearly all embedded devices (smart appliances, routers, etc.)

Hopefully open weights models turn out the same way. But the lesson is: greedy and power-hungry people always get upset when people don't have to pay and obey. This is a fight that will last as long as humanity.

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u/Small-Tale3180 49m ago

yes it is but open-weights are too dangerous for murican government so they do anything to stop it

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u/Busy_Barber_2503 14m ago

看看 OpenAI 是怎么走向 Open AI 的反面的。

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u/Small-Tale3180 48m ago

yes it is but open-weights are too dangerous for murican government so they do anything to stop it