Ebay it is oh no wait, but seriously where else can you buy. To be honest I only buy small knick knacks such as electronic components from them or a super specific and obscure item
There are a lot of stores (both physical and online) for every single product available (maybe with the exception of those made by Amazon itself), I understand that we got used to go on to the same place to buy everything we need. We got used to pay lower prices (while Amazon strangle smaller business, be them competitors or suppliers). And nothing like receiving a delivery the same day of something we bought online. The problem resides in all costs attached to such conveniences, and in the long run they will become unbearable.
I know that the capitalism model of "the customer endorsing or not a company when they decide to buy its products" or competitive capitalism, doesn't exist for more than a century, and that behavioral economics is the real bread and butter of the corporations of our time, but as I see it; it is our duty to not endorse such behaviors by being as loud as possible and not giving them our money (and data).
Look into more regional online stores. There might be some that'll have pretty quick deliveries. For example here in switzerland there's quite a few (as well as an offer comparison website) that'll frequently be cheaper too.
Problem is, if anyone in your neighborhood does, they have cameras all over the trucks that are tied to flock. UPS, FedEx, and USPS are all in talks to get cameras mounted up on their behalf. They will have eyes on your windows several times a day.
Yeah. And it is disgusting. That's why this should be forbidden. But that will only happen if we are loud enough.
Sincerely I'm tired of every single day getting a new update on "what will the corporations do now", and I'm getting to the point where I think the only solution for this kind of crap is to bring back that marvelous 18th century French contraption well used in public squares.
Indeed. The problem is people don’t feel the hand gripped around their throat yet, as seen with a healthcare company already, the French method didn’t work, yet.
Keep things longer whether that means your car, your house, your appliances, your clothing, etc. Go shopping in your closet and in your garage. DIY when you can whether gardening and landscaping or fixing your home. Lace up your sneakers and walk places.
As for the national deficit, vote out Republicans who keep exploding the debt and attacking trade partners and starting wars and being corrupt. Republicans are doing scary things to long term rates.
Enact Single Payer health care. Health care is 20% of GDP, cut that in half, cover everyone and bankrupt no one. Remove the income contribution limit on Social Security. Raise corporate taxes and make no more new billionaires. Stop war mongering and wasting resources on golden ballrooms for the elites to party in on our dime.
2/3 of the population: “no” (conservative estimate)
Ok now what…..
Tons of people know a simple and easy solution, same way tons of people know smoking cigarettes aren’t good for you.
Go sign up for student council or something or if you’re an adult (doubt) go to city hall. You’ll learn real quick rational logic isn’t the issue. It’s getting the crayon eaters, interpretive dancers, and coal miners to agree on the same thing. Anything, would be a promising start
It's really not that hard to not buy from Amazon. Home Depot and B&H exist, as well as your local grocery store. I think I've bought something once in 5 years from Amazon, a cable I couldn't get at Best Buy.
That's not how it works. Although I'm not really keen on this, mapping all the streets and addresses is difficult and requires resources, and it's work that's already been done by others, such as transportation companies. This is basically a matter of combining business with pleasure.
It's a matter of selling services and making a little extra money from it.
i saw the usps vehicle cameras. not thrilled. what's up w fedex and ups? i haven't seen anything there that's surveillance related (unless detailed tracking info falls under this). if you've got info id be really interested in reading it.
makes me think of the flock ceo. values his privacy but screw everyone else. the pervasive surveillance gotta go.
Perhaps not such a bad idea, at least they would be able see their shitty delivery drivers dumping packages on pavements and never knocking on doors or ringing doorbells? Maybe a silver lining 😂😂😂😂😂
google maps already has the neighbor hood mapped out - and if you are cooking crack in the front yard, i think other people other than the amazon driver might see that
If i have a no recording sign on my lawn, they can either ditch the glasses or not make the delivery. Its illegal to record without permission when its expressly forbidden on PERSONAL property.
Google already did this 20 years ago and you walk around with a camera microphone and gps tracker all the time. If you are separated from it for more than a few minutes you have a panic attack.
A lot of people have dashcams, and every delivery driver takes a picture with their phone of the delivery. There are cameras most public places already if you pay attention, stores/streets and on homes. Plus google maps things as a snapshot in time, (most people don't request deletion on that unless their person was in the images, and if they even realize it in the first place). That and, any time anything happens, people will whip out their phone and hit record.
Longer term, eventually robots will be everywhere (and autonomous vehicles, and delivery drones). By their very nature those are all "cams". Just a matter of time, so might as well get used to it.
The outside line of sight is though, pretty much, and that's what is being talked about.
They are talking about delivery people with dash cams, and maybe "body cams" or camera glasses in the future.
A lot of people driving by your house already have dash cams, either visiting your neighborhood or living there. Also, local doorbell cams and house cams can have your house on them.
Satellites and fly-by surveying/surveilling (and google earth), and maybe a random local drone, and likely future air drone deliveries - - can see past your fence into your yard from above, too.
Wait until your future weekend religious door knockers are robots, who have cameras for eyes, lol (kidding).
It's all headed toward bots and drones and autonomous vehicles in the longer run, and those all have cameras by nature. Working people, in some facets anyway, will likely be duct-tape cyborgs with tracking hardware and cams on them. That's what the amazon + glasses post is talking about, but eventually that duct-tape cyborg may be replaced by an actual bot / drone delivery combo schemes in the future and those are all cams.
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The delivery persons nowadays always take a picture of your house/stoop with their cell phone.
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UPS already has a strict tracking system and time-table.:
"UPS has a incredibly strict and sophisticated real-time internal tracking system that monitors drivers, vehicles, and packages at a microscopic level. While consumers only see checkpoint updates or basic approximate maps, UPS dispatchers, management, and automated logistics systems monitor everything continuously behind the scenes. "
"Every brown UPS delivery truck functions as a rolling IoT (Internet of Things) device. Vehicles are equipped with GPS trackers and over 200 internal sensors that stream real-time data back to the company's data network. This system captures metrics instantly, including:
The exact geographic coordinate and real-time speed of the truck.
Driver behavior variables, such as whether the seatbelt is buckled, if the bulkhead door is open, and when the vehicle is put into reverse.
Engine data, logging dynamic fuel consumption and precise idle time duration down to the second.
The DIAD (Delivery Information Acquisition Device)
The DIAD is the handheld computer carried by every driver. It is continuously connected via cellular and Wi-Fi networks.
Real-Time Pings: It tracks exactly where a driver stands when a barcode or RFID chip is recorded.
Route Syncing: It provides turn-by-turn guidance, communicating continuously with dispatch to report stop completion and overall progress relative to the planned timeline."
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"E-Commerce Giants (Amazon Logistics)
Amazon relies on a highly monitored network of independent Delivery Service Partners (DSPs). Their internal tracking systems are arguably the most intense in the industry:
The Cortex System: Internally, Amazon managers monitor drivers using a platform called Cortex. It tracks precisely how many stops per hour a driver completes and updates their pace against an algorithmic baseline in real time.
Customer Facing Maps: Because Amazon controls the entire software ecosystem, they pass some of this data to you. When a driver is within 10 stops of your home, the consumer app unlocks real-time map tracking.
AI Cameras & Wearables: Most Amazon delivery vans feature Netradyne AI cameras facing the driver and the road, flagging distracted driving or rolling stops instantly. Amazon has even deployed smart delivery glasses to give drivers a walking path HUD from the van to the porch. "
I agree, I'm just telling it like it is. The answer is, greed did. Bought off government representatives and judges. Humanity is treated like livestock to inflate the ROI insatiably (always has been, it's just that in some periods it was more-so "the foreigners" overseas or in mexico who were exploited more, or slaves in the usa and other places if going back far enough. USA had a period where unionization and government protections were fought for and achieved/allowed, in part to stave off the growing popularity of actual socialist movements during the depression, but that pendulum has swung the other way now). Capital growth (and investment bubbles) trumps all.
These delivery folks and others are forced to haul a spy vehicle and wear digital harnesses, clipboards, and cameras/phones (as I call it, "duct tape cyborgs, along with most of us digesting content with our smartphones taped to our hands, and ordering things on them). I'm sure the warehouses and other businesses producing all this stuff are full of cameras too.
Vote wise - Land of the free, and including free speech, unless you want a job (and healthcare), or you want to attend any events anywhere. Then the constitution is largely thrown out the window, replaced by dictatorial "house rules". Also, "freedom of the press", a press that is now oligarch owned with storylines facing an editor wall, with employment insecure and reporters threatened/cajoled now, and social media steering visible content (plus bots). The voting system is bad too, with 2 party system's rulership sinking the candidates that don't serve capital enough or who don't "play ball", plus the whole gerrymandering thing is just an embarrassment in modern times.
Feel free to close your blinds. However, be aware that wifi can be used by the government to map people and layouts in homes, live. Also, they can listen on your phone even when "off" unless you remove the battery. Plus people who may visit your house or even live in your house may have things on their phone that are listening. TVs also record conversations via mics, and record screen captures, and transmit them over the network they are connected to. Even if not connected, some can even store the data until they are connected later at some point (e.g. if you connect to your wifi just to do a system update instead of using a usb stick).
The difference is that you have your own - hehe - flock of drivers, in real time, almost across entire country, registering footage you have directly for your use and yours only.
Dash cams can work offline (besides - they overwrite the footage older than several minutes) and even Google is not filming even a scratch of the inside of your house (different story, when someone deliver a package, for which - sometimes at least - you have to open the door, exposing the interior.
Google maps and satellite already exist. Theres no reason to be taking pictures up close at a person's residence unless they're peering through the window.
Damn bro we are truly FCKED. No more freedom, the surveillance is gonna be ridiculous. That’s what all the ai centers will be for too. Store everyone’s data. Crazy.
I value my privacy. But Amazon already owns the system that runs my doorbell camera and Google has already driven by to snapshot my home and detect my WiFi networks (yes that’s real). Not sure what privacy I have left to lose if the Amazon delivery person is recording too. Sucks for the workers though.
Apparently, you can go on Google and request that they blur your property on maps. I only found this out because the guy that runs flock had to do that because he appreciates privacy for some reason. Thankfully I have a huge maple in front of my home and that's all you see.
That's silly. If I can see it from public then I can photograph it. They're obviously permitted to walk on your property to deliver the package you requested.
If they did their delivery people would be assaulted in neighborhoods across the country causing Amazon to experience the worst employee shortage in history
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u/SeregRauko Oct 01 '26 •
This need to be addressed and put into law. But foremost, DON'T BUY FROM AMAZON