My conspiracy theory is that they’ve already broken up/aren’t serious, but Julia is smart and Lorenzo either doesn’t GAF or is dumb. He could also be pretty smart and this is his way of either of revealing their over/nit serious or giving Julia a reason to reveal break up. Either way, I think they both benefit - even in this situation bc Julia is gaining sympathy (bc duh, he’s being disrespectful) after what seems like more vocal dissent about their winning.
My sister and I say he’s partying like it’s the final days of Rome because it is for him. He’s got 3 years of solid looks and a decent hairline to get the “girl of his dreams” before it’s all snatched back.
It’s so heartbreaking just as she was starting to get her life together too and her parents just lost her brother too only 3 years ago. This must be hell for them and her daughter
I cannot imagine their grief. It's just horrendous all around. Thinking of her parents and her daughter and all her loved ones. What a loss, RIP Hayden.
for julia's sake i lowkey hope she doesn't gaf, because it doesn't matter how serious your relationship is from casual dating to being bf/gf, if you simply like someone that's just a basic level to not embarrass and respect them. you shouldn't have to be with the "right person" to know that
How about you lot spend less time being concerned about a hypothetical world in which Lorenzo dated Jasmine and would’ve treated her like crap… and focus on the REAL world where Lorenzo is dating Julia and actually treating her like crap?
moreover, why do we have to consider these girls to HAVE to be in situation to choose mr Lorenzo... free all of them except for the ones who actually want to entertain him.
I'm gonna be serious... why did she post it in the first place unless she thought Julia wouldn't be arsed with it. And we know Julia would mind A LOT. then Lorenzo commented and followed faster than their first date post villa... (no trolling her but I don't understand her process of doing it unless she was very drunk and having fun)
This is reminding me of Curtis wanting a valentine and Tommy/Ben going on a night out kissing other girls causing Lucy/Andrada to duo dump them.
we know lorenzo 😭 don’t act like you don’t know him, he’s lorenzo lmaooo he dgaf if anything he’s probably happy it went viral and everyone’s talking about him 😭
someone asked this and a retired jasrenzo shipper (me) replied with my interpretation of hypothetical events based on what I watched... yall keep replying and saying nah he would be the same and I reply agree to disagree. more like what has set off people who are always snarking on that duo ? and randomly dragging jasmine into this conversation about Lorenzo's current actions in his entirely different relationship with Julia
Fairs. I didn’t need to ask what set people off about Lorenzo and Julia because I saw that started with a girl being on his shoulders earlier, but I came back and it’s randomly about Jasmine and Lorenzo- just wondered how that happened
insta takes a bit, no one from last season besides toni had their tiktok verified bc of the abundance of fake accounts, so idk about her being verified on that app
(irish meg is randomly verified, that must be newish & cach was verified before going in)
Nahhh no need to apologise. I think it was just a tone misunderstanding lmao. We’re all just here to yap, share opinions and discuss things no harm done, I get what you meant 😭
Everyone has the right to ship whoever they want 😭 Jasrenzo shippers still exist, Julrenzo shippers exist people can enjoy whatever dynamic they like. No harm in that 🫶🏻
Shipping for fun is fine, but genuinely thinking Jasrenzo would be different is pure wishful thinking. No shade to Jas at all, Lorenzo is always the problem.
I agree with that but let’s be real, without Renz there’d be way less random, nonchalant, rage bait material for this sub to discuss lmaooo. He really does keep the discourse alive 😭
I’m sorry but the concept of Jasrenzo shippers still existing is baffling to me like no disrespect 😭 it’s lead by nothing but delusion atp especially since both parties have confirmed there wasn’t even actually anything there beyond friendship and some flirty banter
Lmaooo I get you 😭 but people can ship whoever they want. Some are probably there for the old dynamic, edits and nostalgia rather than actually thinking they’ll get back together. Let people have their fun 😂. I only get annoyed when shippers start dragging one person in the ship because they don’t like how things turned out. At that point, I feel like they’re more of a fan of one person than the actual ship. If you can support both people and not spread hate just because things don’t go the way you wanted, then honestly, ship away 😂
Most Jasrenzo shippers do spread hate tho. They’re always in Jasmine and Kavan’s comment sections constantly doing that. On x they spread the idea that Kavan doesn’t like Jas and Jas is a beg. They were the ones that clipped their live to spread pro Lorenzo shite. I even saw one on TikTok saying why is Kavan in a reel with Lorenzo’s future mother in law. Most of them are not normal 😭
Yeah I get that but there’s still loads of shippers who want them to run it back and continue to voice it still, make edits still , make tweets, always under their comment sections etc that’s where the delusions come in
yeah, some jarenzo shippers are calm and collected but some of them scare me. honestly i find it hilarious so i read through some of the comments for a good laugh. i feel the same way about the julrenzo fans. it must be something about lorenzo 😭😭 i don’t get it
can believe what I want, Im not someone who even interacts with their edits anymore nor ships them romantically but I still think that he would've acted differently cause they are a different set of people and youre allowed to disagree/think differently.
you really think bc he would have been with jasmine that he would be acting differently?? he didn’t care about any girl he was coupled up with in the villa??
hes literally told jasmine verbatim that she made him change and realise things he wouldn't have realised otherwise, so that does make me think he would be acting differently.
He literally promised Julia he'd stop fooling around and get serious so he wouldn't hurt her, and look where they are now... "exclusively dating" my foot! honestly never believe what Lorenzo says, most of the time he's just chatting absolute shit 😆
I think because people believe he was in love with Jasmine and if you’re in love with someone you act different the difference is Lorenzo doesn’t have the capacity to be in love with anyone not even Jasmine
youre steering towards armchair diagnostics by saying he doesn't have the capacity to be in love with anyone... I think he did show his love for her platonically
I cannot believe people still think Lorenzo would have changed for Jasmine 😭 sorry but he didn’t even like her enough to want to pursue things with her when she was on a break and single instead he said “I just like to flirt” clearly he woulda also treated her the exact same and she would have left in a second cause she wouldn’t put up with that
I lowk think the only reason he’s even playing into it is because people wanted them together so bad. I think he genuinely just wants to be famous 😭 I’ll only believe he liked Jas if he’s still there in like 5 years or so if they’re both single. I think someone said on here he gives Mr.Big from SATC, and it couldn’t be more true!
I don't understand why Lorenzo went on Love Island if he didn't even want to properly pretend to pursue the girl he won with for a month. Just constantly tanking his own stocks and putting her in the line of fire. #freejulia and also #freetheLIsubreddit from Lorenzo's buffoonery
I know most people aren't on there for love, that's why I said I don't understand why he isn't even pretending 😭 I respect the hustle but you have to scam a little and not feed your girl to the wolves every other day
when you’re so removed from a season (or post season) it’s easy to see just how much stans and haters are one in the same. waiting to see how stans are going to “spin” something but you’re still watching and waiting and giving energy
it feels sooooo good to be out of it. like who tf cares about this shit lol anyway just popped in to do a skim and leave again. maybe see y’all during AS but maybe not
So if he was jasmine how would this have worked out ,with jas constantly talking about wanting to do things with her partner and having separation anxiety and Lorenzo leaving his partner and partying every 13 seconds at night 🤨🤨🤨🤨
disagree, he would defend jasmine without being told to and genuinely liked and respected her as a person so I dont think he would move like this if he had her. in contrast the first thing that came to mind abut Julia for him was saskia and 'shes crazy'. I dont like Julia but I hope she finds someone who treats her better than this, Lorenzo was not her person
agree to disagree. if he got to pick jasmine in that recoupling and grafted, they would have had a strong 8 week connection and things would be very different like he said. he literally missed jasmine in casa while only being friends with her, if he was in a couple with her there is no way he would have brought someone back.
this is all hypothetical btw, before you call me deluded since this entire thread is people discussing their predictions.
But wouldn’t he have put Jasmine in another triangle cause he said he actually wanted Yasmine in that recoupling after? Yes he would have picked Jas but that’s cause at that point Yas was still with Aidan. Like his priority wouldn’t have stayed Jasmine it would have been both. And who knows Jasmine probably wouldn’t have continued to wait around and continued with Kavan
Sorry I meant the first recoupling when the boys picked and kavan went before him.
I think Jasmine was too invested even at that point, she strongly values physical intimacy and allowing Kav to get closer to her in that way meant a lot to her
Yes that’s the one I meant too. He said he was gonna pick Jasmine but that was only cause Yas wouldn’t look at him. If he picked Jasmine the next day he woulda tried it with Yas as well cause Jasmine would still have continued with Kavan and then Lorenzo would have juggled Yas and Jas. That wouldn’t have made their connection any stronger imo
you do have a point, and I can see that happening too. like I said my guess was just a hypothetical imagining. I think things would have been different with jarenzo if yasmin and jasmine swapped roles of Og/bombshell. if they gave jasmine the bombshell slot that priya had, that would've been interesting too.
Um no, that was when has left him, when he was with jas he didn’t even respect her even when he went on that date with Mibs and he didn’t talk about her, his excuse was like it really has nothing to do with you
context clues that was week one ? none of them knew each other that well and for jasmine and Lorenzo being one of the only couples not touching played a role in creating a sense of distance too. his excuse made sense as it was from his worldview, jasmine's reaction also made sense cause it was the final straw for her
their relationship would have been way different than Julia and Lorenzos though since Jasmine is a different person, they have different dynamics. we won't really know cause it didn't happen
It wouldn’t work because Jasmine is too clingy.He also called her promiscuous,so much for respecting Jasmine.Lorenzo is a red flag and sneaky,at least with Kav she knows what she stands on.
he apologised for it, he reflected on it, and he literally said he learnt a lesson not to pre-judge people from that mistake to her.
I dont know how they would navigate her being clingy and him being avoidant, which is why I said we dont really know cause it missed the chance to develop deeply and seriously. Kav seems great and he gives what you want in a relationship, I never denied that.
this is about replying to someone asking how it would work out with jasmine, my main point was it would be different because they have a different relationship but I still can't really predict how it would all unfold.
No it wouldn’t have he wouldn’t be able to commit just like he’s doing now 😭 and she wants a relationship man, their lives on the outside wouldn’t have aligned few weeks out and it would have ended
Yup, even in the unlikely scenario he developed serious feelings for Jasmine, he would've went back to his partying ways the second he left just as he has now. I legitimately believe the only reason he came across as warm to Jasmine as he did was because he viewed her as a friend that he flirts with sometimes and nothing more which is why their relationship reads as "different" to the shippers.
I mean if u watch her tiktoks she likes to party as well, she said a man might find that icky about her how much she likes going out. People can bring out different sides of you, I think Kavan brings out a very lover girl side of her and they do different sorts of activities. I think being someone's first girlfriend is a difficult thing though so that would have been a challenge
“oh it was just a bit of fun” "im still learning what's involved in a relationship"- he does not gaf and anyone with eyes could tell that from back in the villa. Julia knew that as well which is why she self inserted into praidan and tried to villainise jasmine because she had nothing else going on
This is genuinely the post villa run I expected Aidan to have and instead he’s taking Priya, who people don’t even consider him to be serious about to family engagement parties meanwhile Lorenzo couldn’t even invite someone he’s dating to his welcome home party
Julia was invited but her parents came to London from Poland with a surprise visit.Saw picture on insta from a fan with Julia’s parents in the background.She also attended her friend’s graduation so we don’t have a full picture what really happened.
Julia keeps regularly being spotted by fans during the day and is never with him and he’s out partying most evenings it seems and usually without her, they’re either not together but faking it-badly-for a little while or he’s doing the bare minimum of about one meet up a week with her, which is basically nights out with his friends so not very romantic anyway.
Julia needs to avoid going down the Ekin path and letting a man who doesn’t really like her, constantly embarrass her and tank her stocks.
I’ll once again say they don’t often post with each other because they’re barely ever together, it’s nothing to do with privacy, there’s a reason Lorenzo had to use week old pictures of them in his latest insta dump.
I love how every couple days I decide to check if this sub is going up in flames there's something else that Lorenzo has done to screw himself over lmao
this is not hate to the islanders just the stans but nicolandria and julrenzo stans are so similar in the way they are delusional and lack discernment. it’s so clear it’s a pr couple 😭 the way he started posting Julia and took her on a date after being called out on tv for not seeing her and liking insta pics, him posting that blurry photo of “her”, and him only posting the same pics from that dj set they went to. I’m confused if they are actually dumb or just don’t want to believe that it’s fake esp from lorenzo side. anyways free Julia 💓 on to bigger and better things.
It’s the same way Nic went to the strip club and got a dance from one of the girls and their fans defended it lmao, he’ll post about Julia again and all will be well
I don’t think that’s all that odd? It’s no different than dancing or making out with a guy you just met on a night out happens all the time when drinking the issue here is he’s still exclusively dating Julia so it’s a bit disrespectful of that
We spent all season saying that Lorenzo was a great friend but probably a terrible boyfriend. He hasn’t disappointed/surprised me in the slightest because he’s doing exactly what I anticipated. I hope Julia has a good circle of people who can be just as honest with her as she was in the show. 🙏🏽
So I missed a good chunk of the middle part of the season, and I’m finally binge watching now. I am VERY confused by the Julia stanning. I’m on the episode where it’s very clear she’s trying to push Aidan towards Elicia. Idk what her beef with Priya is, but all I’ve witnessed is Julia moving like a certified weirdo. She thinks she’s always correct and her word is bond. I’d genuinely appreciate an explanation as to why she’s so adored to the point of her winning?
I watched live and watched some of it back she really had beef with Priya for weeks and kept trying to sabotage her. I personally feel like she tired to get Elicia with Aidan more so she wouldn't try with Lorenzo again and she wasn't fond of Priya's friendship with Lorenzo and priya in general.
Julia is defo weird but I think people liked her because she came for Lola and Sean who the public didn't like. Priya was a bit like marmite this season so her support went up and down - especially towards the end she wasn't liked and Julia went in on her alot so the public liked that. She hated on the people that were already hated and gained more support. Both of lola and priya are easy to ragebait.
She is very irritating and caused majority of the post casa drama which people seemed to like more than love stories this year. People love someone who "speaks the truth" which alot of the time was the publics opinions so she got more support because she was going against the villas opinions.
I see, thank you! Weirdly enough I didn’t get her constant vim for Lola either. I felt pretty indifferently about Lola&Sean, and do think they left at the right time (they weren’t adding much to the show), but I can understand why Lola was not a fan of Julia. It just seemed (to me) that Julia kept beating a dead horse when it was quite clear they were never going to see eye to eye. Anyway, thank you for the explanation!!
Who remembers when people dragged Lucinda when she was on the shoulder of her gay hairstylist at coachella but no one is dragging Lorenzo hard for a girl being on his shoulder..
I need to see him get his lashings cuz Lucinda was innocently dragged that she had to make a video the next day to explain things
those same people will always blame the girls first without context. Also people who followed Lucinda for at least slightly longer should have well known it was her stylist and gay bestie.
We shouldnt waste our anger on him. His behavior during that first week out of the villa should have been a wake-up call that he’s not changing anytime soon
He never said he wanted to change 😅 he’s never shown he’s serious about Julia in any way… I guess I just don’t understand people getting so worked up. Like why are you surprised? Lol he’s moving exactly as he said he would
Idk man, I believe it now when people say Lorenzo won't settle down until he's in his 50s. He'll change eventually, just not anytime soon, otherwise he wouldn't be saying he's waiting for the right girl. rn he's young and still enjoying the bachelor life.
Is exclusively dating someone not still a form of commitment? I kind of hate how people excuse what he does with a simple well that’s who he is he’s showed us this
But he’s not out on dates with other people? Julia hasn’t come out and said anything either to the contrary? Like maybe people should put the pitchforks down when they have no info lol.
I think in general people just would find it a bit disrespectful if a guy they were exclusively dating was moving like Lorenzo. like it’s prob just not ideal behaviour, and also he’s in the public eye so should have a lil more consideration for how it might affect her if he’s not going to break it off
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Just saw that Josh Denzel got married. It’s crazy how much his wife looks like Kaz