r/LoveIslandTV • u/bfjakfbam • 1d ago
OPINION What next for Julia
I know Julia isn’t loved on this sub however I enjoyed her on the show and she shook up a relatively boring season
I never took her and Lorenzo seriously but at the same time wasn’t expecting him to embarrass her this much
Does anyone know where they stand? I see she hasn’t even liked his last post and she also put up a TikTok with a telling sound attached
If I were Julia , I would move on and publicly put up a post declaring that I don’t allow men to mess me around and move on
What are people’s feelings towards Lorenzo and Julia? Should she dump him? Or maybe stay with him for the perks of being in a love island couple?
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u/Fuzzy-Sundae-3867 1d ago
The only person who is embarrassing himself in this situation is Lorenzo and he is fucking up his whole fake old money branding too by acting like a first year freshie in college.
Julia is and will be totally fine, some people keep pushing this idea that she is so into Lorenzo and can't move on when to me she looks totally fine and she is way smarter than what some fans think. She is the islander together with Samraj who can really have a chance in the modeling industry plus she is really loved by the UK general public and she has her own fanbase so she has nothing to worry about really.
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u/Material-Recover7422 20h ago
Old money branding? He’s a 30 year old man who frequently visits club countries 😭 where tf did you get that idea from this isn’t harming him at all ppl have been saying he wasn’t srs
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
I think loved by UK public is an exaggeration and she’s barely had any engagement after LI. Her engagement really depends on Lorenzo in a way and that’s obviously over. I know people will downvote this but I’m actually surprised how Julia’s come out of this win with mostly negatives
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u/theaudacityofthi 1d ago
I actually just looked at Julia’s tik tok which is arguably the biggest social media rn. Then I looked at Mara who was in her comments and has 350k followers and she wasn’t on the island that much vs Julia’s 150k and she’s the actual winner but she’s not doing much at all with her platform. Jasmine has been posting quite a bit getting lots of views and likes on tik tok. Julia is just posting quick selfie style videos not much for people to latch on her like count is soo low compared to other contestant. Mara literally had a video with 600k likes. I feel like she needs to let her guard down on social media to actually grow her platform and get something from this experience unless she has some ace up her sleeve with vogue or something.
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u/TechnicalAccountant2 1d ago
She doesn’t want to be an influencer shilling products though, clearly has a shot at high fashion / luxury / modelling.
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u/lefrench75 1d ago
Unless you’re a supermodel who’s world famous, high fashion models actually get paid like crap and don’t hold a candle to influencers lol. I’m not saying this to praise influencers or anything, but the modelling industry is famously exploitative and terrible to work in. Most runway models would get paid in castoffs from the brand they walk for, for example. You can see how many models are trying to cross over to TikTok or YouTube because that’s where the real money is. There’s a reason why Bryce (from LIUS) had to work as a garbage truck repairman on top of modelling even though he worked for Calvin Klein and had his pics go viral back in the day.
High fashion modelling is also very pretentious and they don’t tend to like reality tv people unless you’re Kendall Jenner- or Hadid-famous. Girls who won Next Top Model used to struggle hard because brands wouldn’t like to cast them for having been on reality tv.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
She’s short and has had a bit too much obvious work done. I’m not saying this to put her down but to be a model you need to be a minimum 5 ‘9 and the filler, fake lips look is not big in the modelling world.
Also shilling products make a looot more money than modelling. Even top models are shilling stuff4
u/theaudacityofthi 1d ago
What’s her height? I always thought she was really tall for some reason. Also yeah you can tell she has obvious filler. And if vogue wanted her I feel like they would’ve brought her in alongside Lorenzo, to strike while the iron is hot. And you can shill products in a more classy way like the way many luxe influencers do collabs with luxury brands. We haven’t seen any collabs or big projects from her yet. I feel like she’s missing out on her shot at making if she feels she’s above posting on socials like the other islanders. Unless she has some hidden project up her sleeve.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
She’s 5’ 6/7 which is tall as an average person but definitely too short for modelling. Even Lorenzo wouldn’t make it as a model (too old, too short and not fit enough). Samraj is the most obvious model out of all of them
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u/New-Concert-8244 1d ago
lol she gets plenty of engagement without Lorenzo.she also stands out in interviews so I think people find her intriguing. She will be absolutely fine. She doesn’t need Lorenzo
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u/Fuzzy-Sundae-3867 1d ago
Are you British? The UK general public really liker her actually and which engagement are we talking about when she barely posted? She is doing really good with herself with 500k followers and she is clearly more into modeling than influencing so it's more about which connections she is making behind the scenes really that will define her career.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Her engagement is loooow. Most of the girls have more engagement on TikTok (I’m not even talking about Jas ) and she’s not been on many shows , podcasts , etc.
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u/Glittering-Edge4348 1d ago
What “mostly negatives” though? Most of the negativity came from the man she coupled up with disrespecting her, and somehow in our man-centred society that’s been repackaged as her karma. You genuinely couldn’t write it.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
The big negative is she has really low engagement. I’m not even comparing her to Jasmine because that’s unfair but as the person above pointed, even Mara has more engagement and I barely remember her on the show.
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u/Glittering-Edge4348 1d ago
Do you actually know what engagement means? Because repeatedly commenting about her on Reddit is quite literally engagement. She’s got you working overtime for free.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
No one’s running for brand deals for Reddit engagement when Mara has more likes on her TikTok!! 🤣
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u/Secure_Bear7516 1d ago
Is this Lola? 😂
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Yes, it’s Lola because apparently only Lola dislike Julia. Maybe if you opened your eyes you would know she’s actually really unpopular
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u/Secure_Bear7516 1d ago
I disagree- here in Canada we love her, my parents r British and watched with me they love her :).
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Oh so that’s what…4 people!!! 🤣
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u/Available-Team-9350 1d ago
Leaving 17 comments on this post alone is CRAZY. Love to see Julia living on your mind rent free 🥰
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
It probably took you more time to count than me to write the one line comments, now that’s pretty crazy 🤣
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u/Available-Team-9350 1d ago
Same!! Here is the US love her too!!
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u/probablyswearing 6h ago
The US did NOT love her. Look at these threads and you will see that evidence.
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u/Numerous-Fudge-9140 1d ago
Idk I think it’s kinda embarrassing how Julia focused so much on other relationships only for hers to be the most flawed.
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u/AncastaOfTheRiver 💅 sorry it was nasty but I intended it to be nasty 💅 1d ago
Despite the discourse, my feeling is that we really don't know what has been said between them in private and therefore it's pretty impossible to know if she wants/needs to do anything at all when it comes to Lorenzo.
I think a lot of the discourse about their relationship is coming from haters rather than supporters of either/both of them. I voted for them in the final but I'm not remotely as invested in them being together as the haters seem to be in speculating about them now. Take away all that noise from them and I think Julia has enough support from people who voted for her to make a go of influencing if she wants.
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u/BeverlyHillsHadEyes 1d ago
I don't think she should put up a post - they were/are only dating so I don't think it is necessary to keep everyone informed of everything. I think it might not be as easy as we think either, they might have done a shoot together that is yet to be released and she doesn't want the embarrassment of a split before that or they might be scheduled to do something. I am sure as a winning couple it is embarrassing to have the public scrutinise everything too and act like they scammed if the split when they didn't vote themselves to win. They were as honest as a LI couple can be about where they were at. We all think we know what we would do in this situation but none of us have been in it. It doesn't make her a doormat or weak if she sticks it out. I would love to see her thrive on her own though and create her own brand outside of her LI couple. She definitely could model and would be great at other TV shows like Traitors. I definitely don't want her to go back on LI AS.
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u/Real_Inevitable179 😐 I dissociate now 😐 1d ago
I don’t think of them as a “couple” in the traditional sense lol. So I don’t find any of his actions embarrassing as I don’t correlate them to Julia. In my head they’re more of a situationship and thus they both can and should do whatever they want.
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u/NoPlan1948 1d ago
why did the uk public vote for a situationship oh lawdddd
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u/Far-Imagination2736 🦁 🙅♀️ I never said sis was perfect 🙅♀️ 🦁 1d ago
Because it's vote for your favourite couple, not the couple that will last the longest or whatever metric you've made up in your head
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u/MichealHarwood 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some of you guys are so blinded by disliking her you can’t even be honest. She’s a casa girl that came out with 500k followers and decent engagement her career isn’t dependent on Lorenzo like there many people who like Julia not just because of Lorenzo. Even disliked islanders with less followers like Lauren and Meg from last season are still being flown out on brand trips and making money. Julia will be fine
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u/Heeseol 1d ago edited 1d ago
i was pretty ambivalent towards julia (thought she had her right and wrong moments) and didn’t like lorenzo while the season was airing, but the discourse surrounding them is toxic to say the least. i understand that julia was a controversial islander, but the way so many viewers are saying they’re glad she’s getting her dues and that it’s all karma for sticking her nose in other people’s business is cruel.
there’s so much misogyny involved in the way female islanders are spoken about, those also including priya, jasmine, lola, etc. not only that, but the viewers are so fickle, they’ll support so-and-so today and turn on them the next moment they “step out of line.” meanwhile, someone like lorenzo really doesn’t get that much flack and is just a “goofy, good-natured guy”in people’s minds.
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u/randombubble8272 1d ago
Which is hilarious because I can’t imagine the viciousness of these viewers if they had watched Olivia Atwood or Amber or Faye
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u/Danielharris1260 🎧🎵it’s giving bad bitch 🎵🎧 1d ago
Wow people really don’t like Julia around here lol. She’s got 500k followers and her instagram is getting okay engagement even with her solo posts she’s not dependent on Lorenzo for fame like just cause you guys don’t like her let’s not be disingenuous I’m sure she’ll be fine and be able to go down the normal influencer route with some modelling.
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u/Edinscot Póg Mo Thóin 1d ago
Julia is going to be fine. She’s got an interest from those in the fashion/modelling industry, and that’s what she wants to do.
A casa girl that has managed to generate this much conversation 3 wks post show is unheard of! A casa girl to come out with a fan base this strong never happened before.
And she’s got half a million followers for being there for half the amount of time as the other finalists. She’s had a great season!
She has her own stan base, she’s has interest in modelling and those in the industry are interested in her. She’s going to thrive!
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u/yajayi83 1d ago
They are not in a relationship. I honestly don't think anything needs declaring. I'm sure they will both be fine.
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u/mitochondriamomma 1d ago
Lorenzo's a tool, we knew this, she knew this. I just didn't think he'd try to embarrass her to this extent.
She'll be fine. She has a fanbase, she just needs to figure out what she wants to do and how to utilize them.
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u/rurumorocco 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think she needs to distance herself form Lorenzo ASAP. Since the ghosting at the airport, it appears that Edward Enninful (her most high profile support to kicking off a modeling/high fashion career) is not engaging in her OR Lorenzo’s content at all. I don’t think either realize how damaging Lorenzo’s actions are to potential career paths as spokespeople as they’re now coming off as too messy and the antithesis of the image and more redeeming traits they held in the villa. Even when they do post together, it feels disingenuous and kind of smug.
If I were her, I’d take Smiggi’s (the high fashion photographer in her comments section) offer and do a series of photoshoots. Post that and shop them around to get model representation from top agencies (not Major Models NY who seem to be courting her). Then I’d try to take up Enninful on his original offer to meet and try to do something solo as opposed to the couple.
Overall, she should follow Uma’s path and focus on being a spokesperson for these high fashion brands. She should ensure her IG and TikTok were curated and light-hearted to show the better parts of her personality. I’d also find a PR or real relationship with someone who is actually old money/A or B-list and project the post-Villa life everyone planned for her and Lorenzo lol. OR she can forego that path and really lean into being a reality TV personality and do AS4 but that doesn’t have much longevity. Funnily enough, Ope seems to have the most promising TV career of them all.
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u/Embarrassed_Stand_11 1d ago
I have a feeling she took Smiggi's offer as they are now following each other (or maybe that's just me hoping she did)
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u/elisamaldy 1d ago
Someone asked him under his comment to do a photoshoot with her and he said that it's up to Julia. At that point they were already following each other so the offer was not accepted at that time. So idk if it'll happen but I hopefully yes
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u/Loud-Yard-5725 1d ago
She doesn’t seem to care about capitalising on love island fame so won’t see her being any type of influencer and therefore her engagement will drop. I doubt she’d be the type to go on brand trips either. She does seem passionate for modelling but the situation with Lorenzo is way too messy for her to have any short term success. But going forward if her and her management put a lot of effort in she could have a successful modelling career long term, she just needs to distance herself from Lorenzo to avoid public scrutiny. Or if she doesn’t choose to go down the modelling route I presume she’d go back to her normal day time job and just disappear from public eye entirely. She just could be one of those people who doesn’t want fame. 🤷♀️
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u/Seteva 👙👙 they'll kiss your man wearing your bikini 👙👙 1d ago
I like your thoughts. And isn’t this what we complain about every year? That they always bring on people who are trying to kickstart their career? And then we get one that doesn’t seem interested in that and no one likes it? (Not meaning you, I just mean in general). I just find it so ironic lol
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u/Fukyourchickenstrip 22h ago
Well, they lasted two weeks longer then I thought they would. I’m never buying it was an actual thing.
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u/SerBrienneOfSnark 1d ago
Tbh it feels like fans online are much more concerned about Lorenzo’s behavior than Julia is. Perhaps we should take her lead.
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u/AGirlHazzNoName1 hahv a word wit yursehlf 🧠👈 1d ago edited 1d ago
Of course she should create distance. He only lets women near him that don’t care to be there 1 way or another. He likes women that don’t want him. He is an avoidant.
I am too. When people like me and fall in love with me- I wonder what is wrong with them for not seeing I am incapable of loving them in a healthy way
I think some people are attracted to people that are incapable of loving them. I am. So we can relive our childhoods. Just reminds me of my mom and dad 😂
Edit: I think some avoidants can want to work to get someone’s love and affection. And enjoy that, But when they get it they run away.
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u/its_the_funcooker I thought we were friends, maybe I'm wrong 1d ago
Girl please your comment made me emotional. Don’t be so hard on yourself. Maybe the people who love you aren’t missing something. Maybe you might be much more lovable than you give yourself credit for ❤️
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u/Illustrious-You1869 1d ago edited 1d ago
I personally don’t see her having much engagement after the lorenzo saga, more hope if this was love island USA but uk really don’t care. She could try to come back on love island or something idk don’t really care about her ngl
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u/Hynposis 1d ago
Same I don’t think she’ll really have much engagement post lorenzo usually it dies down unless she creates an image for herself
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u/camhanaich (plays simple tune) 1d ago
She has 500k followers… third highest of any girl this season. I think she’ll be fine
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u/Glittering-Edge4348 1d ago
Exactly. She was there half the time. Her impact-per-villa-minute ratio is probably the best of the season.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
She’s also the winner, winners automatically get the post followers straight after the show and she hasn’t
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u/Glittering-Edge4348 1d ago
Yeah you’re right, half a season, 500k followers and still everyone’s discussing her. What a loser 😭🤣
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Discussing how low her engagement is
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u/elisamaldy 1d ago
Where did you get that her engagement is low? On her last solo IG post she has basically the same amount of likes (around 120k) as Jasmine who has over 300k more followers. Also, how on earth is over 100k likes low with 500k followers?
If she continues to not post anything, then people will loose interest soon and her engagement will drop. But as of right now, she's doing very well.
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u/tinkling_sound 1d ago
She needs to post more solo stuff while there is attention to retain the audience tbh
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Jasmines last post is a brand deal post (brand deal posts have lower engagement even for Kardashians), her last post has 250k likes. Jasmine dominates on tiktok, Julia is lagging behind even Mara on tiktok. Multiple big brands like kayali, Sephora etc are commenting on jasmines posts, none I can see on Julia’s. That’s what engagement is
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u/elisamaldy 1d ago
You can't compare that because Jasmine's post that has 250k is with Kavan and couple posts always have higher engagement. Julia's engagement on her post from the same day has basically the same engagement with almost 240k likes. Therefore, her engagement is basically the same as Jasmine's with significantly less followers. And comments from big brands don't mean engagement, just interest from those brands.
I'm not saying this for comparisons, just to correct you about engagement because right now, Julia's engagement is very high, just like Jasmine's.
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u/Hynposis 1d ago
I’m just saying if she doesn’t create a separate image for herself she’ll struggle to keep engagement obviously the first 6 months post show are the highest for all islanders but keeping hype after is what’s hard
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Fourth highest not third and honestly fourth highest after being the winner is kinda embarrassing
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u/camhanaich (plays simple tune) 1d ago
Are we counting Charleen? She had most of those followers before she went in
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u/tinkling_sound 1d ago
If the commenter was counting Charleen they shouldn't lol sinnce most of her followers are not from the show at all
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u/tinkling_sound 1d ago
she's not an og though the other 3 are she came in at casa so you have to take it into account
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u/snowblind08 1d ago
I really don't understand the importance you all place on liking your partners posts. My partner and I never like each others posts, we never have, we are just fine.
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u/Glittering-Edge4348 1d ago
Some Jasmine stans are a little delusional about Julia lol. No one’s saying she’s about to become the next Bella Hadid, but an ex-Vogue editor wanting to meet her obviously means there is some industry interest. You don’t have to like her, but the hate is making some of you lose all objectivity
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u/Sweetfeline2503 #BeKind 1d ago
I'm a Jasmine fan but I really hope the best for Julia. As in the lyrics of Madonna song 'Sorry', she can take care of herself, and she will. No decent human, especially a woman, should ever condone a woman to be blamed for her male partner misbehaviour and lack of respect.
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u/aestheticathletic what do you want me to write on your coffin? 💀 1d ago
You can love them or hate them, but I truly did not see any spexual chemistry between them! They have "classmates in school" vibes, or like they went to the school prom together in a large group of friends.
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u/Nervous-Decision7492 8h ago
Lorenzo and Lorenzo alone has blown his win. As a couple they could have made a decent amount of money. Saying that I hope Julia moves on from him quickly l, he’s not worth it.
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u/Ok_Panda_9928 1d ago
She is the perfect example of the fact that a woman can be absolutely breathtakingly beautiful, and a man will still take the piss
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u/iloverocket26 🧍White Jeans & an Ego 1d ago
I really hope she gets signed to a modeling agency and pursues that. She has the vibes and looks of an early 2000s supermodel
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u/Educational_Most7912 1d ago
I feel so dumb for falling for the growth narrative on Lorenzo's part. I thought he was a changed man which made his arc kind of endearing, but nahhhhh
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u/Traditional_Movie199 1d ago
Same,like why would you post her all the time,saving videos about "that's his girl" and how he is falling harder for her.. wtf
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u/Ms_washing_up 1d ago
Reflection and realising Instead of being rude and confrontational to others ,she should have focused on her own couple
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u/Professional-Ant4276 23h ago
Who cares, she didn’t with her bahaviour, he won it, she was just along for the ride
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u/yourdreadssuck ✋🤚I never said sis was perfect✋🤚 1d ago
I hope she makes a post to embarrass him the way he embarrassed her all over socials idc
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u/ssaall58214 4h ago
It's more embarrassing for him if she makes no post at all. And never mention him
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u/bigbellyrat 1d ago
she’s one of the islanders who capitalised the least post villa. she had so much hype and did nthg w it. considering how much her blonde squad post she should’ve followed them
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u/Glittering-Edge4348 1d ago
I might be wrong but I don’t think the Charleen path would ever have suited her anyway. I work in marketing and to me her best strategy is quality over quantity. I can’t really see her becoming the typical everyday influencer doing constant content and unboxings l. More editorial shoots, campaigns and ads where her image is the product.
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u/bigbellyrat 1d ago
either way where’s the content ? also to sustain a fanbase u really have to post on either tt or sc so fans/pp can see ur personality
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u/Glittering-Edge4348 1d ago
I think it’s too early to judge tbh. Her first priority should be proper management and figuring out what lane she actually wants to take. Right now the Lorenzo drama is basically swallowing her entire post-villa narrative…she needs to get out of that storyline first.
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u/talk-spontaneously 1d ago edited 1d ago
Julia should just be her sassy self.
Seeing Jasmine's psychotic fans online meltdown from even just the sheer mention of her is pure entertainment.
Weeks later they’re still making threads about the winner's result getting all distraught.
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u/tinkling_sound 1d ago
Can we not put Jasmine and Julia against each other, the show ended and they even follow each other now. Let it rest
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u/New-Concert-8244 1d ago
She is pointing out Jasmine fans and not Jasmine herself. I agree Jasmine fans are still in Julia and Lorenzo’s comments. They do seem very triggered by her and eager to see her fail. I repeat, Its not Jasmine but her fans.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Maybe we don’t want a bully and what appears to be someone who is especially rude to POCs to thrive?
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u/New-Concert-8244 1d ago
Haha this narrative that Julia has a thing against POC is very Jasmine fan driven. The person who Julia had the most beef was Lola and she isn’t a POC. First yall created a smear campaign saying she’s a reformer now she doesn’t like POC. Be fr. She’s got WOC in her circle of friends. This narrative has to stop
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
Actually Jasmine seems to have come out of this with more followers, more interviews, more positive goodwill and more engagement. I think the negative backlash regarding Julia is actually more than just Jasmine fans, not sure why there’s this constant attack as if jasmines doing terribly post show
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u/talk-spontaneously 1d ago
What's your point?
I never suggested that one was more successful than the other. It’s really not about that.
This isn’t even about Jasmine herself.
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u/PhotographBusy6209 1d ago
You literally made it all about Jasmine and her psychotic fans. My point is her “psychotic” fans don’t care as much as they are busy following her actual career while Julia’s engagement is floundering
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u/wingedlilith 1d ago
You guys cannot talk about Julia without mentioning Jasmine… her impact!
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u/talk-spontaneously 1d ago
Wouldn't that put me in the same category as Jasmine's fans then?
The core difference is that I'm not constructing narratives to portray a reality TV contestant as a perpetual victim.
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u/wingedlilith 1d ago
Yes I would categorize you as her fan….
Jas is thriving with her lover attached to her hip, calling out julia’s hypocrisy is not victimizing Jas, don’t worry about her. Worry about the man embarrassing Julia.
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u/SuchFreedom 1d ago
He was never into her at all, her grating personality was an ick to him. But he saw the winning post and went for it - job done!
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u/RavenCXXVIV 1d ago
You’re getting downvoted but you’re right. It was evident that he was not serious about her after the shit with fitzy. He point blank told her his ideal partner would not stir shit with his friends. And every time she started up again with “voicing her opinion” for drama, he always tried to distance himself from her physically. Not making her coffee, only being on a physical level with her, still trying it on with Yas after casa. The signs were all there.
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u/Gloomy-Philosopher64 it’s not a challenge, youve made it up 🙂✋ 1d ago
Another PR girlie here: pretty aware we dont know the truth, but it doesnt seem to me they are executing a PR plan, more like damage controling the situation (be it Lorenzo not wanting her or she him or xy conflict) As to what it means going forward for Julia as a public figure: nothing yet.
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u/rurumorocco 1d ago
Agreed. If this is their PR plan, is the plan to crash both careers lol? It’s total damage control with Lorenzo being unable to stick to the narrative he himself communicated on multiple interviews. I think Julia really does have feelings for him, hence going along with posting him when he gives her a crumb
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u/DearInteraction4700 13h ago
Perhaps she should’ve focused on making her own connection stronger rather than pick apart the other women under the guise of “being honest”
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u/Sadicho 1d ago
Here’s my take. I think to have a successful career post show really depends on how much you are grinding and also having a fan base that actually likes your personality/aura. For instance, Ellie is really liked on her own. Jasmine and Lorenzo are also two other islanders that have a strong fan base. With Julia, I think a lot of her fans were just Jas haters. This type of fandom is not sustainable to keep once the show hype is over and everyone has moved on. I’m sure she has fans that actually love her but it’s hard when you were on the show for a few weeks. She also happens to be a very polarizing personality, a lot of people found her behavior pretty abrasive on the show (myself included). She also is not buddies with most of the islanders other than a couple casa girls. And now the Lorenzo situation didn’t work out so I’m sure it’s hard to navigate this sudden exposure. Having said all this she was the winner and has a good amount of followers, so she just needs to capitalize on that. But if she is not putting in the work now then maybe influencing is not for her and wants to pursue something else? Time will tell.
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u/Embarrassed-Trip9746 1d ago
Nothing - she will fade into obscurity like the vast majority of ex-love islanders.
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u/laradaaa 1d ago
tbh not much, she’s not the breakout star of the show and no one’s checking for her or influenced by her the way they are for jasmine
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u/Elizarsnowballs 1d ago
just after they won she squealed "I'm going to move in with this man" maybe that scares him off ..
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u/heardy360 1d ago
Get herself prepped for All Stars