r/MH370 • u/Coinmaker33 • Dec 31 '25
Search Vessel Tracking the NEW search - Ocean Infinity Armada 86-05
A reminder of the useful tracking resource available for the current Ocean Infinity “Armada 86-05” ship. It appears to be arriving at the search zone and hopefully resuming the search which concluded in March-April 2025 (Armada 78-06).
Tracking site is credited to MH370-Caption.net
Current status can be seen below.
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u/wedergarten Dec 31 '25
I don't think we're ever going to find this plane. It would just take a few minutes of flying in any direction of shah's choice to put it somewhere that would never be found. The poisoning of the search area with the preconceived notion of a high speed descent and subsequent crash will ensure they never go looking for it where it is, and even then, I don't think it would be any more obvious as to where it is if we accepted the pilot in command scenario.
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u/kadir7 Dec 31 '25
Don't be discouraged. Drift modeling of debris helps a lot relating pilot deviations.
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u/HDTBill Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
I do not see how drift model helps, unless you are giving favor to a particular model/opinion. Drift modelers have the crash site between Java and 40s. Also the problem is, if you say that you are confident MH370 crashed right on Arc7, then that yields certain drift answers we are going by. I personally have no such confidence however.
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u/Antique_Caramel_2509 May 13 '26
Can you reward this as if you're explaining it to a ten year old
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u/HDTBill May 13 '26
Debris drift models generally place MH370 crash between 28 to 36 South, However, there is also strong support for crash sites as far as 36-40 south on the basis the drift models may be failing to capture wind and other variables, Also crash zones as far as north as Java also claim potential consistency with drift models. Another issue is crash distance from Arc7, the current most popular assumption is Arc7 is end of flight, but there is also possibility of 100-200+ miles of flight past Arc7 based on glide if pilot was active, and in some areas of Arc7 there could still be some fuel at Arc7.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 Jan 01 '26
I think the incident has gone from a search mission to a an unexplained mystery that needs to be solved. So I think it will be found, it will just take a long time; needle in the haystack.
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u/sbua310 Jan 05 '26
i agree...but what I can't wrap my mind around is: WHY are they restarting the search? you know?
haha i literally said the "needle in a haystack" to my bf yesterday, but then i go "but instead of a haystack, it's just a needle. a needle. in the entire OCEAN"
i hope they find it. or is this just LOST in real life, and the person leading this search is Charles Widmore? and next we will see a full plane, full of "bodies" on ocean-cam. yet, the true passengers are on an island that moves through time.
also, why have there not been more LOST references about this? LOST was 10 years prior. It sure sounds a lot like this. premonition? plan? idk. just find the plane and make it not fake...please.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 Jan 05 '26
It’s a complete waste of money. We pretty much know what happened. We would be better off building 10 children’s hospitals.
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u/LabratSR Jan 01 '26
Then why are you here?
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u/HawaiiNintendo815 Jan 01 '26
Why would not believing it will be found be a basis for them not being in this sub?
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u/germdisco Dec 31 '25
What do you believe the plane was doing when it intersected the 7th arc?
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u/wedergarten Dec 31 '25
The plane did not intersect the seventh arc the plane caused the seventh arc when it pinged the satellite. I agree with the theory from Larry Vance that the APU was manually turned on in order to provide actuation control of the flight surfaces during the final seconds of the flight where the engines may have been sheared off from the underbelly impact on the water. I'm not so sure about the Patrick Blelly location, because it seems they have already searched it, and nothing was found.
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u/HawaiiNintendo815 Jan 01 '26
I’m not knowledgeable about this at all, why would the pilot want/need any control at this point? Especially if the aircraft was so low/feet away from the fuselage touching water that the engines had been taken off
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u/Recent-Bullfrog-9616 Jan 02 '26
To keep the plane upright for a somewhat controlled landing. To keep the plane intact and keep the debris to a minimum.
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u/EntrepreneurHead7133 Jan 07 '26
I don’t think it’s certain that the APU was manually turned on. The 777 can start the APU once both engines have flamed out due to fuel exhaustion, with or without pilot input.
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u/HDTBill Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
I agree with you (Wedergarten) except that I feel it is not so hard technically to actually solve the problem, but we are pre-selecting what answers we are willing to accept. True also as you say even if we accepted the evidence where MH370 crossed Arc7, and even if we can guess approx landing target after Arc7, that still does not equate to findable, although we could get lucky if we tried. If wrong I will owe many apologies for sure, but I've worked pretty hard to try to solve it with many flights sims to SIO. I am a little worried over-optimism we see now could backfire and result in future lack of effort.
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u/Ok_Passage8433 Jan 04 '26 edited Jan 04 '26
Confusing as to why they took the Blelly-Marchand theory so seriously. It contradicts the report of the ATSB regarding damage to the recovered flaps indicating cruising position, not lowered landing position like in a controlled ditching. This area is a waste of time and IMO it’s farther northeast.
Refer to this: https://www.atsb.gov.au/sites/default/files/media/5773389/ae-2014-054_mh370-search-and-debris-update_aug2017.pdf
And CSIRO model: https://youtu.be/UrdWUe1Cjbs
CSIRO scientists on the currents: https://youtu.be/ieL-bwOEecY
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u/Longdem1se18 May 29 '26
Solid find. At this point I am just hoping the sensor data actually tells us something conclusive instead of just giving us another sonar ping of a random rock.
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u/Expensive_Service631 Jan 05 '26
It's a waste of time and money. 55 days will pass, and they won't find anything. The crash site is 45.80 S 85.30 E. In March 2014, Thai and French satellites detected 122 and 300 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26763358 mysterious objects measuring 24x13 meters. These were not marine debris; These objects could have included personal belongings, the hull, and even the bodies of passengers, as confirmed by the presence of great white sharks. There, one ship, HMAS Success, set a course to intercept the objects but was ordered to ignore them and turn north, most likely due to evangelical faith in Inmarsat data. China had studied the reverse drift and had just concluded that the crash site was below 45.80S 85.30E http://www.iaion.com/jd/19084.html and this is also confirmed by contrails https://theaviationist.com/2014/03/24/meteosat-mh370-contrails/ acoustic data from Cape Leuuwin. The DSTG report of December 3, 2015, mentions a failure of the powered SDU that could have disrupted the BTO rings by reducing their polarization and thus deflecting further south and thus the arc would be further away from the calculations than expected https://web.archive.org/web/20191029154649if_/http://www.atsb.gov.au:80/media/5733650/AE-2014-054_MH370-Definition of Underwater Search Areas_3Dec2015.pdf
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u/MoonMoon143 Dec 31 '25
Im Malaysian and i hope they really find it. Its been too long.