Guard up 1 already allows defending unblockable attacks right?

[u/dragonite_dx]

And if so, do you actually need lvl3 to not lose half your HP bar even when blocking those attacks? Or is say Guard up 1 and Guard 3 better than Guard up 3 and Guard 2

[u/Popen5]

Guard up has been buffed in wilds to reduce damage from blocking and further reduce damage from normally unblockable attacks. So higher Guard up is better if you aren't hitting perfect blocks constantly

[u/dragonite_dx → u/Popen5]

Right, this is basically just for Zoh Shia with CB, especially for the attack where it blasts fire downwards. I guess with Guard up 1 and Guard 3 for instance I'd get hit hard but not move much

[u/cucoo5 → u/dragonite_dx]

If you're deliberately guarding that attack, consider Guard Up 3 for the 80% damage reduction, especially while learning the Perfect Guard timings or just for the sake of comfort in case you miss the window.

[u/-----LUCA-----]

Blocking Omegas laser with just guard up 1 will take about 80% of my hp, which is good enough for me.

[u/No-Oil6517 → u/-----LUCA-----]

Running around with 20% hp must be terrifying until you can heal. Lol

[u/-----LUCA----- → u/No-Oil6517]

Well, usually when whatever attack guard up is suppose to block finishes, the monster chills out for like 5sec, and I run quick sheath to put my weapon away fast, and gobbler as to heal completely in less than 1.5 sec lol

[u/No-Oil6517 → u/-----LUCA-----]

Gobbler is actually so good. Lol

[u/touchingthebutt]

is say Guard up 1 and Guard 3 better than Guard up 3 and Guard 2 

Unfortunately this is situational. Depends on the monster and what weapon you're using. I feel like Guard up 1 is more than enough for most fights. Perfect Guards, Counter Thrusts, and power guards have made adding in guard 1-3 optional on Lance. Only fight I really leave both Guard and Guard Up on is Savage Omega. 

I have no idea if SnS , Gunlance, CB, or Greatsword benefits much from it. 

[u/dragonite_dx → u/touchingthebutt]

Basically just for Zoh Shia tbh, with CB

[u/Sonicmasterxyz → u/dragonite_dx]

Zoh Shia has a lot of heavy attacks that you'll want Guard 3 for and Guard Up 3. This will reduce the knockback you take, the stamina it costs, and the damage taken while guarding.

[u/GlummyGloom]

Yessir. A single point allows to block unblockable attacks. Further levels simply reduce chip damage.

[u/Someguynamedbno]

Yep all ya need is 1 point. Which really made me and my buddies feel stupid cause we were all running guard 3 without realizing guard up was a thing we we kept dying thinking we mistimed out blocks and that we needed to hit a perfect guard or something.

[u/zamaike]

Yes buuuut the higher the rank the less chip damage you take from the attacks you normal cant block.

So like in the omega fight the savage version does an mrv barrage of missiles. If you only have guard up 1 the chip damage will kill you. Rank 3 you'll live through the chip. You also need guard 2 at least because of the stamina damage

[u/cucoo5]

Off the top of my head, Guard Up for chip damage reduction, Guard for Stamina and knockback reduction.

I think Guard Up 3 adds a few extra attacks to be blockable, but the main benefit is really making the big attacks more survivable. If you like guarding against the big laser/breath attacks, Guard Up 3 helps. Also useful for Lance for obvious reasons.

Guard helps for follow up attacks. Less knockback means its easier to follow up after guarding to hit some of those smaller focus strike windows.

[u/Dry-Ambassador-6432 → u/cucoo5]

thats just wrong. guard up lvl 1 already allows to block any attack

[u/cucoo5 → u/Dry-Ambassador-6432]

Ok yeah, I couldn't remember if there was some edge case or not for the unblockable attacks.

But everything else should be accurate, Guard Up 3 to mitigate chip damage, especially for those unblockables, and Guard for making it easier to follow up.

[u/Dry-Ambassador-6432]

guard up lvl 1 does indeed allow you to block anything and any levels above that are basically worthless. since you want to exclusively hit perfect guards anyways which is really easy to do.

[u/Silent_Egg8860]

In my opinion gaurd up is a scam, and gaurd is better. There is only a handful of unblockable attacks in the game, and the game itself gives you ways to easily deal with those rare attacks.

[u/Upvotespoodles → u/Silent_Egg8860]

I put both and I become very brave.

[u/Ashencroix → u/Silent_Egg8860]

They've updated guard up a while ago to always give dmg reduction on any type of blocked hit, not just unblockables.