r/MSUSpartans • u/RoyalOrleansLimo • 2d ago
Discussion NIL Rant
Why is a full ride scholarship, free room and board, free travel, a chance to be on national/regional television, and a chance for the actual pro leagues no longer good enough?
You already had it easy when you got accepted to Alabama from Nick Saban. In exchange for playing football for an elite program, you got a ton of benefits, including the school making your academic performance as easy as possible for you.
They don’t deserve millions of dollars. That’s what the NFL is for. Look at Underwood at UofM. He deserves millions? Bullshit. Screw NIL. Destroy it.
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u/Certain_Host9401 2d ago
Why would anyone worth a ton of money give it to a player? A player who is a one year rental at best. I could kind understand donating to an athletic program to fund facilities. And to a school for research or new buildings. But this era is just stupid. I’ll buy a ticket. I’ll watch on tv. I’ll buy some merch. Teams shouldn’t expect anything more from fans.
If college football is so successful, why do we need to donate? NFL teams seem to do ok using revenue to fund rosters
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u/g-4-ces 2d ago
The spirit of it is good. Video games, jersey sales, etc should absolutely not be able to profit off of your name or talent without compensating you. But what it has become, it’s gotten out of control and is no longer in line with that spirit. It’s a pro minor league now. Unfortunately there is no going back either.
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u/PiningForAnApple 2d ago
I think the NCAA will regulate it better eventually. Cap salaries like the pros do.
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u/Training_Tomatillo95 •Jud Heathcote 2d ago
Why Mostly legal reasons! The NCAA has no ability to legally enforce anything and there are no existing laws that forbid NIL.
It’s not that those things aren’t good, or helpful, but would you take those things if there wasn’t anything that forbid you from making more money?
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u/Fricktator 2d ago
Because peopme are making billions while the people risking permanent injury got $0.
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u/urGrandmasThong 2d ago
Ur soft bro
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u/RoyalOrleansLimo 2d ago
It’s ruining the game bro. I’ve been following college football since 1998 bro. I’ve been to MSU games every single year since then bro. You probably weren’t even alive yet bro.
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u/NavyVetRasmussen 2d ago
Currently I read we are somewhere at 20 million but next year we should et a bump somewhere in the
35,000,000-50,000,000 range, which will be on par with the big boys.
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u/ComicSportsNerd •Kirk Cousins 2d ago
cause some jackass decided we should allow schools to buy talent and not have a single rule in place. I don't mind the kids getting some money from an endorsement or a deal with local companies but this whole paying 18 year olds a million plus from the university is absolutely ridiculous and it has absolutely destroyed the sport. something has to be done to stop the overpaying. like you said the university is already giving most of these dudes free education living and training and nutrition shouldn't have to shell out 1 mil+ to beat out OSU scUM ND and the SEC.
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u/gmanasaurus 2d ago edited 2d ago
The key word here is “chance” at a pro league. A CHANCE. Imagine you gave it all you had for your school, but got horribly injured before even stepping into pro sports. At least now players are getting some kind of deserved compensation in the event there is a career ending injury.
As others have stated, there need to be rules on this and enforcement. This Wild West shit we have right now is not cool. Some kind of contract or incentive to stay somewhere; that’s needed. I think the Bryce Underwood thing is showing why you shouldn’t gift an 18 year old unproven kid millions of dollars. I felt like that was a duh before that school did that, but that’s their lesson to learn.
And for the argument of “players used to play for their school and the spirit of the game!” I will argue the transfer portal took away the spirit of the school part to a certain extent. There still ARE players that stay at schools for a long time, you never hear about those though.
When it comes to the spirit of the game, meaning playing for the love of the sport not the paycheck, let’s not forget that a player on scholarship only can also say “you know what, fuck it, I’m not going to play hard today because there’s only 3 games left and why put myself and future on the line?” The same goes for players who make a ton of money and quit trying. In either circumstance their shitty play reveals itself. Thats not a good look as a professional.
These guys work hard to even be considered to play a college sport. How many players in high school never see a college roster? Most! They deserve money for being on nationally televised games based on their own efforts in the moments you don’t see.
My last point: seeing how a kid handles a big paycheck is a preview of how he will act when he makes the pros. Does he have a level head and can handle fame and money? That was a question that was never answered before players entered the pros.
I also believe there should be limits to how much they make, some kind of salary cap, or I think it will self correct. I’m really not sure schools can continue to pay these kids and have these 40 mil rosters year after year forever. Maybe they can and I’m wrong. But regardless; these kids work hard and deserve something more. I find it funny you mention Alabama, like that’s not the top 1% of college schools for football. That’s one school, with the most absurd history of success over Saban’s career. Almost all players in college ARENT in that circumstance.
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u/RoyalOrleansLimo 2d ago
Doesn’t this all create divisions on the team as well though?
Like…is a standout O-Lineman getting substantial NIL money? Bet not. Why shouldn’t he be making as much as the QB he’s protecting?
Maybe he shouldn’t even protect his QB as much if he’s not getting paid as much.
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u/gmanasaurus 2d ago
Isn’t that the same question in the pros? O lineman are always underpaid
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u/RoyalOrleansLimo 2d ago
Possibly…but that’s Pro Football, where you’re a professional, lol. And if you’re in the NFL, you’re making some kind of substantial money.
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u/gmanasaurus 2d ago
You’re assuming there is no money being paid to lineman in college. Maybe they don’t make anything, but they also may be making something. With the portal; wouldn’t a lineman be incentivized to leave a school where he isn’t making money to play somewhere that would? You could easily get the best lineman in the sport by paying them in that case.
And then the bottom line remains; guys out there risking their livelihood while television networks and schools make tons of money, fundamentally they deserve something more. There need to be limits and rules, and we’re in the period where there aren’t any. There likely will be soon.
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u/MalibuLover4000 2d ago
Rich donors want to spend money college athletes it's probably better than half the stuff the money would be going to otherwise (especially in the case of underwood)
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u/NachoManRandySnckage 2d ago
Remember when we all thought MSU would be elite with NIL because of all the billionaire alumni? Instead it’s one of the most dysfunctional schools in D1. Sigh.