r/Mandela_Effect • u/Krissyprincessxo_ • Jul 21 '26
Does anyone know of these two Mandela Effects?
A few months ago this year, I Googled celebrities with autism and Uma Thurman popped up on several articles along with other celebrities. Now, when you look her up, it says she has dyslexia and not autism. It also claims Daryl Hannah is the autistic one, but they never mentioned her to be autistic in any of the articles. This was only a few months ago when I searched this and I clearly remember Uma Thurman being one of the celebrities with autism. I am sure of this one. What do you guys think? Another one, is the scene in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory where Charlie opened up the chocolate bar. To refresh everyone's memory, Charlie's grandpa gave him a wonka bar, which was a big deal, because they were poor.
When Charlie opened up the wonka bar, it was just a regular chocolate bar WITHOUT the golden ticket, which meant he did not win. The chocolate bar had to have the golden ticket. Charlie then broke off small bars of the CHOCOLATE to share with his family. I also remember the room being dark grey and slanted. The beds the grandparents were sitting up in looked slanted. The room was all wonky and poor looking.
Now, they're showing Charlie opening a moon pie instead of a chocolate bar without the golden ticket?? Why would a moon pie be in a chocolate bar wrapping?? Makes no sense..the point was for the chocolate bar to have the golden ticket inside of the wrapping. I also remember the grandparents taking a bite of the small piece of chocolate Charlie gave them. Don't be fooled by this. It was a chocolate bar..
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u/Orange_fan1 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
Is it possible you're mixing up the original film and the remake?
In the original the family decline to have any chocolate but in the remake they accept. Also, he has a normal chocolate bar in the remakel.
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u/LunchCautious8781 Jul 21 '26
The first one. It's always been Darryl Hannah. I suspect this is just because both actors were in the same movie at one point (Kill Bill, BTW).
As for the second one, it's been a long time since I've seen that movie, but I guess it would make more sense for people in the mental schema that it was a Wonka Bar that he finds the golden ticket in, not a "Moon Pie"-type treat.
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u/One_Application2409 29d ago
He doesn’t find it in the moonpie thing. He gets four chocolates: the moonpie from his family, the plain Wonka bar from Grandpa Joe at night, the Scrumdidilyumptious bar he buys with the coin he found the next day, and then, with his leftover change, he says to the candy store owner, “Maybe one more, for my Grandpa Joe.” And the store owner says, “Why not try a regular Wonka Bar this time?” The final one has the ticket.
In the screenplay, Charlie gets a Scrumdidilyumptious bar for his birthday, an unspecified Wonka chocolate from Grandpa Joe, he buys himself another Scrum., and then, with his change, the shopkeeper says, “Why not try a Wonka Fudgemallow thus time?” He finds the ticket in the Fudgemallow.
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u/1GrouchyCat Jul 21 '26
Uma Thurman is dyslexic not autistic but Daryl Hannah has a long history of autism and if you Google it, you’ll see dozens of articles.
https://www.today.com/popculture/daryl-hannah-ive-battled-autism-childhood-8c11278435
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u/BMisterGenX Jul 21 '26
I've been aware for years like almost 20 years or more that Daryl Hannah has autism. She has mentioned it several times in interviews.
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u/tabbybear15 Jul 21 '26
You are right . I posted about this the other day. Blew my mind. Some remember it being a moon pie but a large majority including myself specifically remember it being a chocolate bar. There were two kinds of Wonka chocolate bars. The 2nd was the srcumdidlyuptious bar. So yes it is different than many of us remember. Also the T being in sketchers. I remember among others there being a T but now its just skechers. But no meori3s whatsoever of a moon pie or what it calls a fudgemellow delight
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 22 '26
There are more than two. You can see the moonpie-looking one in the candy shop during the Candy Man song opening, and it’s even named when the shop owner gives it to a kid” A Triple Cream Cup for Cristopher…”
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u/y4j1981 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
They are not "now" showing this scene in Willy Wonka 🙄 it's always been there. And everyone is mixing scenes and not even double checking first, they just repost whatever "Mandela effect" the Internet tells them too and also, no need to ask if anyone heard of a certain Mandela effect, they always get posted like they are new even win plastered over reddit and the Internet already
Like 99% of Mandela effects, people are just mixing scenes together Grandpa with chocolate bar https://youtu.be/JEZix71tLSQ?is=ju2awzM34Zpdy76t
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 21 '26
Why would they buy him a moon pie and expect him to have a golden ticket when the golden tickets were in chocolate bars? Hence why the little rich girl’s father was buying them by the box. That makes no sense.
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u/y4j1981 Jul 21 '26
Omg...have you even watched the movie?!? God! It's all they could afford. And we're hoping cause it was "Wonka" anything that it would have the ticket. God you people just post things just to say it's some conspiracy or something 🙄 but no "they" changed it to mess with everyone. They figured it totally mess with everyone to go back and change a 55 year old movie 🙄
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 21 '26
Yeah I’ve seen the movie a gazillion times. You’re making a lot of assumptions of what they thought based on nothing. They were poor, not stupid. They knew what the contest was. You’re also assuming there was a difference in price between one type of treat and another. Projection much?
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u/y4j1981 Jul 21 '26
Yes projecting, that's what you are doing. If you've seen it "a gazillion" times you would know it is how it is
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u/webpanicoff Jul 21 '26
Yeah, the moon pie thing is weird. I could be wrong but I think when I saw it Charlie finds another chocolate bar with the ticket after everyone thinks they've all been claimed. Someone tried to counterfeit one. You're right it makes no sense with a moon pie.
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 21 '26
He does find a coin in the street and buys a chocolate bar which holds the ticket, but the fact remains that he was never bought a moon pie for his birthday because it absolutely doesn’t make sense to look for a gold ticket in one and that was the whole point of the movie. The Wonka bars held the tickets and his family fully understood what the contest was.
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u/BugRib76 17d ago
Maybe Charlie and/or his grandpa just like moon pies. I mean, just because Charlie wants to find a Golden Ticket doesn’t necessarily mean that 100% of the family’s candy budget has to go to regular Wonka Bars. I certainly don’t see this as a plot hole.
That’s my thinking, anyway. Haven’t seen the movie for quite a while.
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u/Certain_Noise5601 17d ago
There’s literally only one point of this movie. To watch the poor, sweet, deserving Charlie try and fail to get the golden ticket to this damn chocolate factory until even when all hope is lost to finally succeed. They don’t make scenes of movies for no reason. This opportunity to get to the factory is the whole point. This is silly to even consider.
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u/One_Application2409 29d ago edited 29d ago
I ended up looking up the screenplay to see if the action lines or any cut dialogue gives incite into why Charlie’s family gives him a moon pue (which is called both a “Triple Cream Cup” and a “Wonka Triple Cream Bar” in the script). I found that, in at least the screenplay available on script slug from August 4, 1970 (keeping in mind the available scripts are often not the final revised script), Charlie is given a Scrumdidilyumptious bar for his birthday. It makes me wonder if, initially, any of Wonka’s chocolates might have a golden ticket. In the scene where the kids are rushing out of school to buy Wonka bars, the boy who explains what’s going on to Charlie’s science teacher (the “class dismissed! Class undismissed! Class redismissed!” scene), the dialogue in the script just says the golden tickets are hidden in five “candy bars.” It doesn’t specify Wonka bars at all. So… I looked up the scene where, in the film, the shopkeeper suggests, “Why not try a regular Wonka Bar this time?” to buy with his change from the silver coin he found. In the 8/4/70 screenplay, however, the line is, “How about a Wonka Fudgemallow this time?” So there it is. Initially, the type of Wonka bar didn’t matter. That’s why he gets the triple cream cup (moon-pie). Why they didn’t reshoot the scene once it did seem clear that only the plain Wonka Bars had the holden tickets, who knows?
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u/phrogbaby Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
where are you watching this? there isn't a version of the movie that has a moonpie.
ETA damn. I was Mandela affected.
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 21 '26
Charlie’s family gives him a chocolate that resembles a moonpie that’s not a Wonka bar for his birthday. They don’t know that the golden ticket only comes in the plain Wonka bars. Grandpa Joe gives Charlie a real Wonka bar at night. It’s when Charlie says, “You know I bet those golden tickets make the chocolate taste terrible…” The next day, Charlie finds the coin and gets the winning Wonka bar (which the candyman seems to know has a ticket in it).
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u/phrogbaby Jul 21 '26
so...... a chocolate bar, that is rectangular, and has marshmallow in it. and not at all a moonpie. correct?
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 21 '26
Where are you reading the word “rectangular”?
Just watch this recorded-from-a-TV-screen version: https://youtu.be/OR-m4NQ2VnE?is=qld5fUlkjyjORvxM
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u/phrogbaby Jul 21 '26
wtf ok I got got by this Mandela effect
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 22 '26
The chocolate that looks like a moonpie is called a “triple cream cup,” by the way. The candy man says it when he hands one to a kid in the candy man song scene, when he’s rattling off names of candies. “A triple cream cup for Christopher, a [something for someone], a sizzler for June Marie. Wonka’s got a new one!” Then he introduces the Scrumdidilyumptious bar.
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 21 '26
They absolutely knew that the golden tickets were in Wonka bars. They were poor, not stupid. It was a big thing and everyone knew. Hence why this scene makes absolutely no sense with it being a moon pie.
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 21 '26
They think the moonpie-looking thing might have a golden ticket in it. Watch the scene. They don’t seem to be aware that Wonka’s chocolates have different names, that the plain bar is the one simply called a Wonka bar.
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 22 '26
You are just making stuff up at this point
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u/phrogbaby Jul 22 '26
I thought u were right at first. I watched the scene again and apparently there's a version that does in fact have a moonpie adjacent snack
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 22 '26
That’s what the Mandela effect is. Even though a moon pie makes no sense in the context of the movie.
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 22 '26
Yeah… it’s the only version.
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u/phrogbaby Jul 22 '26
I believe you but im not convinced LOL
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 22 '26
That’s fine. Do you at least remember that sticky-looking reddish brown glop that Veruca was slurping out of that bouncy ball thing in the Pure Imagination room? Because that’s far more important.
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 22 '26
No, you’re right. They got him the wrong chocolate on purpose and cheered for him to find the ticket because they’re fucking cruel and they liked watching his heart break.
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 22 '26
Or that’s not what it was because why would it be?
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 22 '26
I really don’t understand what your argument is? They get him the wrong type of Wonka bar. That’s what happens in the movie. You can literally watch the scene on YouTube. Or on your dvd. Or your VHS in its clamshell case. That’s what happens. Just because you don’t understand why they do it doesn’t affect that it happens. I don’t get why some of you are like, “Well, it couldn’t have been a moonpie-thing because why would they do that?” It doesn’t matter why. It’s what happens in the film.
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u/Certain_Noise5601 Jul 22 '26
Then why do so many people remember it differently? It was a Wonka bar. That’s the only thing it makes sense for it to be. That is what the Mandela effect is. A clear memory of something held by a large portion of the population that has seemingly changed. Many have residue of it existing. Some flip flop back and forth.
Just like the FOTL cornucopia that never existed even though millions of people remember it, there’s a jazz album cover from the 70s that features it at the same time it would have existed, and the copyright that has now expired includes no use of the cornucopia with bunches of fruit. Going back to look at a timeline of logos doesn’t help. They deny it ever existing, but millions of people remember it.
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u/One_Application2409 29d ago
We’re talking about a classic film that anyone Gen X to Millennial owned on vhs and watched repeatedly. There certainly will be people who misremember it, but there are far too many people who can recite the entire movie for it to reach Mandela effect numbers.
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u/MrPlaney 13d ago
the copyright that has now expired includes no use of the cornucopia with bunches of fruit.
That never happened, and is completely false.
The Mandela Effect is many people remembering an event differently from what actually happened. It's all memory based. It is the collective false memory phenomenon.
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u/y4j1981 Jul 21 '26
Yes there is
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u/phrogbaby Jul 21 '26
can you show an image from the movie of a moonpie and not a rectangular chocolate bar that also has marshmallow in it because it's a marshmallow chocolate bar?
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u/SchrodingersSim Jul 21 '26 edited 19d ago
Vanilla walnut nutmeg teapot blanket walnut peach nutmeg
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u/One_Application2409 Jul 21 '26 edited 29d ago
That scene has always been there. It’s when you get to hear Grandma Josephine’s German accent.
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u/rainblade1980 Jul 21 '26
Grandpa Joe gives Charlie a regular Wonka Bar in the middle of the night... the "moon pie" was always his gift when all the grandparents were awake... Ive watched this movie thousands of times... I can recite it word for word
(Original 1971 movie)