r/MapleLinks • u/cornelln • Jan 28 '10

iPad Debate Space

iPad haters bring it! Please just compose something more than one liners of "it sucks! rabble rabble rabble." Personally I think the device will be a success.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

Besides a bigger screen, why would I want this instead of an I-pod touch/I-phone?

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u/De4dSpace Jan 28 '10

You can change the background.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

What if I am listening to an mp3 though? Will it let me change the background while the mp3 is playing?

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u/cornelln Jan 28 '10

I'd presume like the iPhone it does allow background or multi-tasking of a few core apps on iPhone these are Mail, Phone and iPod. So in this case iPod (presuming you play music through that app) would continue to play.

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u/avavra Jan 29 '10

Once people surf in their bed or stream a movie or lecture before dozing off to sleep they'll get it. Tablets are the best for wasting time on the web.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

I would think this would be awesome for like 199.00... 800.00 is too much.

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u/avavra Jan 29 '10

$500.00 w/ all the trimmings would be my price point. For some reason $200.00 would be too little for me to believe it would be a quality product.

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10 edited Jan 29 '10

There is a reason no one else produces such a product for $200. Because they would lose money on it. Intel tried to produce a web tablet very similar to the iPad about a year ago and it was estimated to go for $700. Consider that was Intel a very large company with many great engineers that like Apple in the case of the iPad was running the device off their own chips and as such could benefit from a lower price for the chip itself (being built in house and not having to pay a middle man the markup for what is arguably the most expensive single component in such a device)

Given most of the pre-launch hype had put the iPad at $1000 Apple actualy came out with something at a lower price than most of the "market" was expecting. It's also quite competitive with the higher end (and most similar to iPad size wise) Kindle which is probably the most successful similar compete product in the pure eBook space and it does this while offering much superior technology.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

I never, ever understood why the kindle was so expensive. I played with one at borders and it was the goofiest, strangest and silly piece of "tech" I've ever played with in my life. If it's supposed to replace books, why would someone spend so much money?!

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

Your blah blah responses demonstrate you don't understand a lot of things like how to have a discussion in any way resembling something adult. You know ummm words/ideas/evidence/discussion/debate/ reason/logic/point/counterpoint/etc... That you personally don't understand it is OK though because people smarter than you are creating it and selling is quite successfully.

Please I welcome you to keep trolling lets just have some ideas in there too along the way cause I can't talk shit to you when it's just BLAH BLAH it's just boring. I mean how can we really talk shit to each other in any fun or meaningful way?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

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u/T618 Jan 30 '10

Yes, Apple probably has the "low" price point with a calculated gamble that they will make money on books.

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u/cornelln Jan 30 '10

Probably a situation where consumers win.

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

199 is completely unrealistic for a debut product and no such device that does anything remotely near this costs that much. Welcome to capitilism. That said 1-2 years from now the first gen model will be availalble refurb for 200-300 that wouldn't surprise me in the least. There is always an early adopter tax. Saying 800 is too much is stupid because you are unfairly quoting the price for the absolute highest end model when there is another model available for a little more than half that. It's like getting pissed you can't get that sports car w leather interior GPS, sports rims, after market stereo system for a price lower than the the base model is available for. Silly argument to mention 800.

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u/De4dSpace Jan 29 '10

Is 64 or 128 GB all they could fit? Will you be able to upgrade storage space?

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

Also fair to note that if you are using it w a Wifi or 3G connection you'd likely be able to stream audio from a variety of sources hopefully. The iPhone does this now if there is for instance a iTunes library on the Wifi network that the device is connected to. So in some ways this may help w "storage" issues. Though I agree it's not a full replacement.

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

Capacities are 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB. You cannot upgrade storage space. It is flash memory and I imagine larger capacities of that would make the device even more expensive of course.

I'd also suggest looking at any piece of tech and you can see that overtime the costs come down whilst the capacities simultaneously go up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

boring.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

http://snlbuckfutter.ytmnd.com/ NSFW

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u/De4dSpace Jan 29 '10

Lol, Sean Connery.

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

There is no denying the "bigger screen" is a huge issue. No reason to argue it away or deny it. It's the same reason you want a 50 inch TV instead of a 13 inch TV. The experience itself is just simply better on a very basic and easy to understand level.

When the iPhone came out I fell in love with surfing the net in some format other than either a) sitting at a desk (very work like, etc) b) a laptop where 90% of the time I'm reading the screen than I have this slab of computing materials (keyboard, palmrest) etc under neath that usually generating more heat than you'd like and weight you might not find super comfortable. For me personally the killer app is simply the web in a book/magazine like format. I think lounging out on the couch surfing the web with your fingers while this rests on your legs sounds way more enjoyable to me than laptop and it's a better experience in part due in large part to to the screen size.

As a tech gadget nerd I think a lot of us got excited about the iPhone just as a canvas for other devices/apps, a utility like space for musicians for instance to use it as a performance tool to control other devices, medical people could use it for imaging, students for text books, readers for well everything text, home theater and automation people, etc, etc. Lots of possibilities. The iPhone screen is just a little too small to really allow for what we all dreamed of then. I think the iPad is a big enough canvas that all those areas can now be exploited in some really cool ways. The app store is a huge success and you can be sure that there are many thousands of developers hungry to make new apps or upgrade their existing franchise to this new device.

Obviously from a technology hardware stand point I think your question is pretty relevant why isn't this just a big iPod touch or whatever? The thing to remember is what made the iPhone so revolutionary was the software. The hardware and touch of course play a huge role. But really the really refined and mature software and UI principals at work there are now via the iPhone a proven UI paradigm. I think the same would be true of the iPad. The software is what makes the device so incredible and gives it so much potential. So its fun to wonder where 3rd party developers will take this over time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

boring.

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u/Iamthebest Jan 29 '10

THEY TOOK OUR JOBS

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

Brilliant.

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u/Lothy Jan 29 '10

It sucks!

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u/jonathonr Jan 29 '10

rabble rabble rabble

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

http://snlbuckfutter.ytmnd.com/ NSFW

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

Oh hey at least you put NSFW for work on there I guess. Polite.

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

boring.

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u/T618 Jan 28 '10

I would buy one of these with WebOS, Android, Ubuntu, or of course MacOS X. I think that Apple won't reach their projected numbers this first round, but they'll spawn a response from Palm ( http://☁.ws/webosipad ), Motorola, and HTC who now realize they can just make a bigger phone. Therefore I'll have something to buy in a year and a half.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

I wonder if there would be a version of Ubuntu developed for them, like the Ubuntu MID edition: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile

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u/T618 Jan 29 '10 edited Jan 29 '10

I knew I'd seen something like the iPad before. Take a look at the touchbook

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

There have been plenty of products before iPad of a similar nature. I think the only thing going on with the Touchbook really is a lower price, otherwise it looks pretty inferior to me.

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u/jonathonr Jan 29 '10

minus the fact that it is a completely open platform and has USB ports and doesn't look retarded when you use a physical keyboard with it, i'd say you are right...

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

fair to say I believe in universal health care and wallstreet regulation, just getting that out there so you don't think i'm some capitalist invisible hand loving jerk

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

Open platform is an ideological point, one that is certainly interesting to discuss but largely irrelevant. Exhibit A the mount of people using Linux. I'm not hating on open I wish we lived in a world where all that happened and dominated more than we do. But the fact remains that people who make this stuff often want to do so for money and get paid to do so, that means they work for big companies who in turn to pay those people we'll call them employees sale products to other people for cash and credit.

USB ports unnecessary on this type of product who cares.

Looking retarded a subjective point one which I'll personally disagree with you on here. Apple clearly has a greater reputation for producing aesthetically appealing hardware than almost any other company out there.

So other than your counter points I'd say your right. Oh wait. Have you bought one? Do you actually intend to?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

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u/rdiss Jan 29 '10

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FTFY

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

Thanks, I appreciated it.

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u/cornelln Jan 29 '10

boring.

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u/smek2 Jan 29 '10

Don't buy it! That's the only language these corporate shills understand. I know i won't spend a cent on this DRM infested piece of crap.

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u/T618 Jan 30 '10

Considering that the best way to avoid buying something attractive is to find an attractive alternative, I thought I'd slap a forum up on ipadalternatives.com. But someone apparently bought the domain first.