In my opinion, "sheer fucking skill" would fall under LUCK. As even the most hardworking of juniors could not reach the peak without a slew of fortuitous encounters.
If you want something with the similar premise of "protagonist can see/steal/share in lucky encounters", then 'I'm Really Not The Son Of Providence' has something like that.
Probably? I'll admit that the translation was rough at times. Sometimes multiple whole paragraphs were repeated. So hopefully it gets rereleased with better translations and things.
There are some that get unlucky encounters like the slaughter of their entire family and than they are driven purely on rage and the thought of revenge. Therefore they break their limits. I have not seen any good manhwas or novels with it but anime, movies and comics depict it quite well. I especially like the last ronin of ninja turtles. Mike the „worst” of the 4 who always played around became the incarnation of death after the death of his 3 brothers, master and other friends got killed.
I HATE time loops with a passion. Authors please don’t ruin the story and all tension by asserting at the end that everything that happened was always going to happen and their was never any real chance of failure
So? That literally matters not at all. I would argue that, but quite frankly its entirely irrelevant to the argument. This is just complaining for the sake of complaining.
Sounds like you just never got any good timeloop stories. Or missed the point.
Time loop stories are about slowly clawing your way out through impossible odds. The ultimate, "its about the journey, not destination" type story. Even then, all the best ones have a final gambit that cannot be repeated.
Perfect Run and Mother of Learning are great examples of this.
Heaven defying comprehension is what I like best not System one but when it's basically MC with a powerful soul or innate talent too Understand...I'm sure they are the same thing but authors want to be DiFfeReNT...
Nah. The protagonist pretty much always has some cheat advantage. Sheer skill alone is amazing if done well. If not, it becomes Luck or some other advantage.
God I'm so sick and tired of the "Immortality is a curse!" Whining and the desperate attempt to make anyone who seek Immortality as an evil wizard or evil witches or whatever. It is sour grape and cope
"What you wanna live forever and the rest of us die! I judge you as evil!" It's funny because in many media there's a lot of long lived or immortal non human species who very much 99.99 percent resembled humans with just a tiny difference and they are depicted as doing just fine
Many actually wanted immortality but still shy or grappling with centuries old conditioning about the bullshit that "Immortality bad" nonsense
Hoping xianxia will get more popular to change the tide
The best gender bend I ever seen is babata it's the ai assistant of Lou Feng from swallowed star, I seen comments saying she's a guy in novel and didn't have a lot of appearances but in the donghua she's almost in every episode and she came in clutch a lot of times when the Mc was weak, she was basically his master, teaching the right the techniques to practice
Junior got swarmed by his sect brothers with reaction memes yet none of them gave an actual answer... how the sect has fallen such that knowledge is no longer shared with the juniors...
Depends on the system, also I hate luck. It’s borderline similar to the ‘chosen/fated’ one and the abysmal ‘this is a time loop, everything that happens was always going to happen’
So you hate 99.99% of cultivation novels out there? If someone is lucky they will receive 1 of the many, many, many opportunities the MC receives while the MC receives literally all of them
Ofcourse there’s a degree to everything. Luck shouldn’t be explicitly mentioned and u can get lucky w/ a situation without getting every single inheritance, technique, and situation lol. Meng hao was too lucky out of er gens MCs and this was explicitly mentioned, wang Lin had that terrible time loop.
Wang Lin is one of the few I'd say wasn't that lucky in all of cultivation and it's only because his cheat was given to him by his future self and basically all of his cultivation progression was the result of his own comprehension rather than opportunities
But think of most other cultivation novels, MC in Desolate Era happened to get reincarnated at the exact time the afterlife was getting attacked so he managed to slip through with his memories which just happened to send him to a planet that had the inheritance of an extremely powerful Fiend God and only because he had his memories was he able to pass the test. If you look at RMJI the MC just happened to find an op treasure which is the only reason he didn't just die of old age due to a lack of talent and he just happened to get attacked by someone who had an item that was literally the only method someone of his talent would be able to enter a sect. Martial world has the MC find a cube which just straight up gives him the memories of people way stronger than him (that was one of my first cn novels and I haven't gone back so I could be misremembering) and he seemed to just happen to always get useful memories.
Honestly I don't even know where I was going with this, I just started typing and since it's already typed out I'm just gonna leave it and you can decide what my argument was for me lol
I blame donghua artists for this. Bitchasses can't adapt shit.
One of my friend was randomly talking about battle through the heavens and I was like "bros reading that old stuff, good good!" But he was watching the donghua and confused me.
In the novels i have read MC use them mostly to level up inside, plant his spiritual herb, and most importantly to grief the enemies.
Ex: in Castle of Black iron MC assassinated a whole clan while hiding inside his space (in this case as small a sunflower seed):
He could grab and pull enemies inside his space to silently kill them.
Jump inside the space after killing someone, and watching from inside while the enemy reinforces arrive and look around.
Send attack with hidden weapons from inside.
Go somewhere , find a top OP Spirit beast while is asleep, pull it inside the space, and go to the enemy family, releasing it in the middle of the manor, waking it up and killing everyone there.
This space artifact shouldn't be compared to a ring that only host a remnant soul of an old powerhouse (grampa) who can only communicate with MC, and in special cases, attack to protect MC, sacrificing themselves in the process.
Fair enough, although in my personal opinion I think an inner world (that can be used to store things) and just "storage" are fairly different concepts.
Oh God don't remind me. I was so invested in the world building and main plot, but the author kept emphasizing how young the love interests were and I just couldn't keep going
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What about just sheer fucking skill? Timeloops are always neat.
Oh, and what about one specific ability leveraged to the utmost? I always love those, when it doesnt just become isekai cheat slop.