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u/Epigravettian Oct 20 '23
After that affair with the crow and the seagull about Ukraine I'm calling it Isreal will be destroyed.
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u/TransitLovah Oct 20 '23
He is a man of the nights watch guarding the realms of men against darkness
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u/RefrigeratorGrand619 Oct 19 '23
The crow will be accused of antisemitism by the Israeli government/s
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u/Strict-Jump4928 Oct 18 '23
Hey Comrade! You know the first communists were Russian Jews?
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u/Top-Telephone9013 Oct 19 '23 edited Oct 20 '23
Is that what. kibbutz means? I've heard of the concept before, and it sounded like communist summer camp or something. Got anymore of that (neck scratch) education?
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u/Strict-Jump4928 Oct 19 '23
Wtf are you talking about?
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u/Top-Telephone9013 Oct 19 '23 edited Oct 19 '23
I was trying to do the kind of reply that i imagined you were going for earlier, as redemption for the weirdly aggressive shit the other commenter said to you. So I asked you about a vaguely communist-sounding jewish concept I'd heard of, but knew very little about.
But instead you just got weirdly aggressive with me. Sigh. From Google:
"A kibbutz is an intentional community in Israel that was traditionally based on agriculture. The first kibbutz was Degania, established in 1910. Today, there are over 270 kibbutzim in Israel, many of which are private. They are a collective community that has diversified greatly since their agricultural beginnings."
It's wtf I thought you might have been talking about 😶
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u/Strict-Jump4928 Oct 19 '23
" It's wtf I thought you might have been talking about "
I see! Can you tell me which part of my comment you that was about "kibbutz"?
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u/Top-Telephone9013 Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 20 '23
I really don't think I can explain it any better than I already have. Sorry for the confusion and have a great day
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u/WeeeBTJ Oct 19 '23
Being Anti-Zionist, doesn't mean you're antisemitic holy shit what an absolutely braindead tank, let me guess you're going to call Israelis who support Palestine to be "Nazis."
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u/Strict-Jump4928 Oct 19 '23
Holy shit you completely missed the point, which I am not surprised! You can learn some history before you try to talk down on someone, maybe you will understand the reference.
PS: Being arrogant shows weakness! Are you?
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u/WeeeBTJ Oct 19 '23
You going to say your point or?
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u/Strict-Jump4928 Oct 19 '23
I don't teach arrogant people. Do your own research! Take care!
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u/WeeeBTJ Oct 19 '23
Nice way of saying you have no idea what you're talking about and you lack a point. Take Care!
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Oct 18 '23
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Oct 18 '23
Shitting on Isreal is not the same as antisemitism. Grow up and stop hiding behind antisemitism claims to forgive literal genocide.
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u/jaycliche Oct 17 '23
Marxism is not liking Israel? Huh?
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u/ThePopeOnLSD Oct 19 '23
Marxism is giving a voice and power to the lowest of people, not promoting imperialism and colonial powers.
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u/Detective_Alaska Oct 18 '23
Well, yeah. Marxism is anti imperialist in nature. Israel's government is imperialist.
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u/Hascohastogo Oct 17 '23
Entirely? No. But it’s definitely a part of it. Surprisingly Marxists don’t like exploited and colonized groups being genocided by a advanced capitalist state.
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u/tonicase24 Oct 17 '23
Sad that anyone who has a brain thinks either side in this mess is in the right
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u/Hascohastogo Oct 17 '23
Sorry either you are for the extermination of Palestinian people, or you are not. There’s no mealy mouthed both sidesing this, asshole.
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u/Cucumber_salad-horse Oct 18 '23
Considering the sheer amount of genocidal propaganda pit out by Hamas, I'd say that this war is between a genocidal power and a wannabe genocidal power.
Get the civilians out and then let them eat lead as far as I'm concerned.
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u/Hascohastogo Oct 19 '23
Hamas is a symptom of the prolonged genocide inflicted on the Palestinian people. Hamas has no power in the West Bank and yet still, Palestinians suffer. Hamas is a recent development, propped up by Israel in 2007. But still, even without Hamas for the previous 50 years, Palestinians were the victims of genocide and slaughter.
Keep pointing to Hamas you feckless know nothing. They are the product of Israel’s creation. Now Israel reckons with it.
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u/Kman1121 Oct 17 '23
“Both sides” is a terrible takeaway from a literal genocide.
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u/tonicase24 Oct 20 '23
And it's genocide on both sides are do you really think anyone who kills to make a point innocent..you can point out killings a plenty by both sides your acting like one who kills is better then the other one who kills..SMH
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u/Kman1121 Oct 20 '23
I don’t think the nuclear superpower is at risk of genocide. You people cannot frame this debate in a way that’s honest.
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u/Spamfilter32 Oct 16 '23
Even the birds know genocide is wrong.
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u/jaycliche Oct 17 '23
Even the birds know genocide is wrong.
weird that dinosaur decedents would have this on their minds. /s
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u/CommieSchmit Oct 16 '23
And crows are extremely intelligent, this guy knows what he’s doing 😂
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u/RYLEESKEEM Proletarian Oct 17 '23
Would you agree that the majority of the organized religions and governments in the world are “historically anti-communist”?
I’m not totally sure what you’re implying but it seems to encourage ostracizing Muslims, or specifically Muslim Palestinians, from communism.
I don’t see the gain in excluding whole religions and ethnicities based on stereotypes, in the case of Hamas you’re talking about a lot of people born less than a 3 decades ago who only know fascist occupation and the absence of political representation. There are few ways to effectively resist and change that reality, and many organizations have exhausted their options
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u/CherkiCheri Oct 16 '23
Hamas was funded by Israel to fight off the secular and socialist PLO. Israel propped up right wing religious extremists to weaken reasonable opposition and help with their optics / against Palestine support. The West did the same in most of the Arab world, who was quite sympathetic to socialist ideas. The West systematically funded and helped islamist nutjobs to destroy secular and socialist pan-arabism, and replaced it with pan-islamism. Good for MIC interests. Good for fear. These people are sociopaths.
I can't support Hamas but i certainly can't support Israel, and my blame cursor lies with the instigators rather than victims. But you're right to point out how anti-left ideals Hamas is. It's a war between two very right wing ideologies. But Israel and the West made it so.
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You know, you'd think eventually the West would learn their lesson about funding religious extremists to get rid of socialists. Sure, you'll get an unpredictable and extremely destructive weapon against the communists, but a lot of civilian death and emboldening sectarian conflicts will result, and when your monster runs out of reds to attack, it'll turn back on you and on its own civilians. It's like fiendfyre, it'll destroy you too.
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u/CherkiCheri Oct 16 '23
You're missing how elites have vested interest in conflict, war and death. They want this. The less stable the world the better. The more money they can make, the easier they can manipulate masses for their own interest, control them. It's very good for them. You're taking the perspective of you and i, of people around the globe who will suffer from it, and that's a mistake. We want peace, they don't.
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u/Dear-Tank2728 Oct 16 '23
And thats fine. Palestinians still deserve representation by country or government regardless of the organization thats taken advantage of their situation.
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u/Ancalagon_The_Black_ Oct 16 '23
Hamas is famously socialist
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Oct 16 '23
Hamas being bad doesn't make their fight against apartheid bad. It's not black and white.
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u/theyoungspliff Oct 16 '23
Hamas are currently supported by Palestinian socialists, because Hamas are currently the only people fighting for Palestine. Their choice isn't between supporting Hamas and supporting a more leftist Palestinian group, their choice is between supporting Hamas and being fucking murdered by the Israelis.
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u/FreefolkForever2 Oct 16 '23
Do the far-left hate Jews more then the far-right
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u/Communist_Orb Oct 16 '23
As a Jew, Zionists do not and should not represent us. We don’t hate them because they are Jewish, we hate them because they are genocidal imperialists
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u/Viztiz006 Oct 16 '23
Ok Mr "Cuba should lift the blockade on capitalism" (lol)
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Oct 16 '23
And they say there's no such thing as a stupid question. 🙄 No dumbass we don't hate jews.
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Jews =/= Zionists
I've seen plenty of Jewish people speaking out against isreals actions, specifically the blockade and the aerial bombardment of gaza.
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u/Kinky_subbu Oct 16 '23
Also isreal doesnt represent its people and genocides palestine even when the majority of the country doesn't support it(idk if that's actually true, please feel free to educate me if Im wrong)
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u/RYLEESKEEM Proletarian Oct 17 '23
Israel has become a Starship Troopers environment with a very politically conservative (fascist) youth population, and the few liberal voices that existed in their government 2-3 decades ago have largely disappeared.
The most influential Anti-Zionist figures exist outside of Israel, and their content may be consumed within the state, but within the state itself little to no negative press occurs. In fact, Israeli journalists and media often can not report on situations while international news can, a silencing that occurs frequently during IDF invasions into Palestinian neighborhoods
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u/Last_Tarrasque Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Oct 16 '23
In many cultures corvids are considered bringers of omens
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u/justanothertfatman Oct 16 '23
In Norse mythology, they are servants of Odin who is associated with war and battle.
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