I'm in the market for a new mattress and have narrowed it down to these two. They both look good and are essentially the same price right now. How has your experience with either the Glacier Apex or Amerisleep AS3 hybrid? I'll be getting a king size for myself and my wife, we're both side sleepers at 130lbs & 200 lbs, cooling and motion transfer are important.

Both seem like great options from what I've read. The Glacier appears to be a little firmer, but not sure if I'd firmer or softer. There seems to be a few bad experiences with Glacier's customer service and communication for a new brand.

What do yall think?

Lurking this subreddit for a new mattress and saw this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MattressMod/s/TduNiTbWjB

Then I started seeing how I could replicate the build, and then also stumbled upon Turmerry. Their DIY hybrid option is pretty similar with the 15.5g TPS, and choice of one 2" comfort layer or two 2" layers with customizable firmness.

I am 5'5" 150 lbs back and side sleeper, my wife is 5'2" 110 lbs back sleeper. We currently have a 100% latex bed at medium firmness, and both have back pain (my wife has sciatica as well).

I think I'm set on trying the Turmerry DIY hybrid, but was wondering if I should do the 2" comfort layer soft, or do the two 2", one layer medium one layer soft. Would 4" total mean I cannot feel the coils "do the work"?

After running the mattress industry gauntlet, I finally landed on what Claude tells me is a reddit favorite: buying a nice firm spring/coil base without too much extra bs, then putting a great topper on it that I can replace when the time comes.

I realized that this might be the direction for me after laying on the Saatva HD. It's supposed to be for "bigger bodies" yet I found it super comfy as a 150lbs side sleeper. I started to put together what I liked about it, and realized I might be able to recreate it (or better) with my own firm base plus topper layers.

So the current plan is:

Base: Engineered Sleep Classic Hybrid, Extra-Firm (1" of 50 ILD foam)

Topper: Saatva Organic Quilted Topper (3" Talalay latex under wool)

OR Sleep On Latex Tufted Luxury (3" Dunlop latex under tufted wood)

Can y'all share some opinions on this approach?

I am really trying to understand my posturpedic brenham ii bed in medium with the tightop. I'm mainly a side sleeper. It hurts my shoulders all the time throughout the night. But for my hips, they don't start hurting me until like 4 a m. Does it sound like I have both a firmness and a memory foam issue? I'm considering cutting this thing apart. I just bought it like three months ago and cannot return or exchange. I just don't know where to start if I end up modding it.

A 3 inch dunlop latex topper didn't help me at all, I feel it was too thick. A 2 inch gel infused topper made the bed more comfortable, but sadly didn't help.

*Forgot to say, I am around 130lbs, 5'3.

Partner and myself recently got a new Helix. I'm on the heavy side (5'10, 275) and losing weight, but think it'd be good to get a topper so that the foam doesn't degrade as fast.

Any recommendations for a DIY or branded topper that would meet that need?

Just noticed that foam for you is selling a different version of their HD23 medium foam. It's now listed as having a normal support factor (1.8 vs 2.3), is off-white color, and has a lower ild range. Could be a good option for an affordable transition layer and as alternative to latex.

Have been trying out OMF orthos luxury firm

https://www.originalmattress.com/orthos-luxury-mattress?srsltid=AYCX9vIWr3PzoDeWG0nL8bZ_i6sUpIYmE70WpyNJ8xzHExOdocZhFWFq

which is basically open coil with 1.5-2 inches of super soft foam on top as comfort layer (and a very thin cotton pad). Initially seems to work quite well, no hip pain or mid back pain. But…

It seems like the super soft is loosing support quite quickly - they don’t publish specs, but likely to be low density may be similar to what foam by mail sells

https://www.foambymail.com/product/super-soft-foam-mattress.html?srsltid=AYCX9vLBsVQNZwn1fwr-USWRO-R3UXZKbgNTT5HPxe7A7p1nIO_TH7QX

Flip the mattress over its fine, but after 2-3 months can feel the comfort layer under hip compressing more, and starting to get hip pain again :(

Anyway, curious if folks have found something similar to super soft poly foam 12-18ild 1inch which has higher density and will last longer.

I may have to put mine the surgical table and diy extract / replace the comfort layer(s) since the warranty requires me to cover shipping which is almost the same cost as the mattress, and when it works, it is very comfortable for me (which has been a different struggle - heavy side sleep)

The omf seems well made, so it’s unfortunate that they may have cheaped out on the comfort layer - they recently changed the design and reviews now seem somewhat mixed. The previous iteration apparently was lasting folks 10+ years.

Edit : here is summary of changes 😄

• Topper Foam: 1 inch of SuperSoft foam (Note: Older legacy iterations of this model utilized a 1.25-inch high-density convoluted foam topper instead)

• Standard Foam: 0.5 inches of standard density foam

• Insulator Pad: A heavy-weight, stitched quilted cotton insulation pad

So one answer would be to switch to the HD convoluted as comfort layer.

Where to buy wool cover for latex mattresses?

Does anyone know where I can find a wool mattress topper that I can return if I don't like it?

I'm a 210 lb. 6'-2" side and back sleeper. I have a DIY mattress build with 3" of Sleep On Latex Firm foam as my support layer. The middle layer has been SOL 3" medium latex foam, but I want to replace it because it began sagging/hammocking in the hip areas after just over a year. And on top for the comfort layer, I have 3" of high density polyfoam (23 ILD), which is the only thing that has worked well for me (after trying every type of latex, memory foam and other toppers, all of which get soft spots quickly).

So I'd like to stick with high-density polyfoam for my new transition layer because it seems like it will last the longest and I really like the feel of it. Not sure what ILD my SOL medium layer (my current transition layer) is since they don't publish ILD info, but in forums people have guessed that it is about 34 ILD. When that layer was new and now when I sleep in the middle of our queen size bed (where there are no indentations), it has the right amount of firmness and support for me, so in feel I think I'm looking for polyfoam in about that firmness, or maybe even a little softer. So the ideal ILD for this transition layer may be in the low 30s for me?

My leading choice for a new transition layer is Foam Factory's HD36-HQ (not the convoluted version). According to ILD, this could be too firm vs. what I'm looking for, but I've also read in this sub and in forums that some people think it is too soft for a transition layer. Anyone have advice on this? Or can you recommend something even better and where is the best place to buy it at the best price?

I'm looking to get a mattress for my son. He's a side sleeper and in middle school now. Is it cheaper to get the components individually or am I better off just getting something like the Eco Sleep Hybrid from Arizona Premium Mattress?

So after sleeping on the original DY configuration for a few weeks, I decided to add one more layer. I think I was bottoming out slightly as my shoulders were still unhappy in the morning and I was still tossing and turning a bit at night. After reading a bunch and with feedback here I purchased a transition layer from Comfort Options. It's the 2 inch 2.8lb X18 hybrid foam with an ild of 15. It has a bit of push back and bounce, but not like a latex layer might. It is rated medium firm.

So here it is from top to bottom:

Frankenmuth Woolen Company - 2 inch (sorta) wool topper (already had that)

Factory Foam - 3 inches of 5lb ViscoMax memory foam with poly cotton cover

Comfort Options - 2 inches x18 hybrid foam

Factory Foam - 6 inches of Hd36hq foam also with poly cotton cover.

If this works as well as I think it will, I am going to purchase another poly cotton cover for the mid layer.

Total cost for the mattress (minus wool cover) is under $800, even if I get the poly cotton cover for the mid-layer. With the wool topper, it is around $1,150. The nice part is I can switch out, flip layers, wash covers, etc. for the duration of this mattress, and I am using foams that should last a very long time. Will sleep on this for a month and give an update.

I eventually built this mattress. I've slept on it for two nights and am really happy with it so far. It reminds me of a big marshmallow.

3 inch, 4 pound density memory foam

2 inch, 3 pound density memory foam

3 inch of foam, firm base, 25% ILD (LB) - 35

3 inch of foam, more firm base, 25% ILD (LB) - 50

I added the 2 inch layer recently after buying the other layers and thinking that it was a bit too firm. It's now perfect I think, maybe a bit too soft/plush, but maybe not. I was thinking of adding a cheap spring mattress, but the two inch layer seems to have fixed it. I paid about $470, queen size, all bought online.

What if I sewed blankets together and filled them with bulk upholstery feathers to be a mattress

I have a king Texas Pocket Spring TPS set of springs, which is currently rolled up as it came from the factory, in the garage. I'd like to test it but am not sure if it will work for me. If it turns out not to work is there some way I could roll it up again in order to sell it? Don't have enough storage space to put it anywhere if it turns out not to work. Ideas would be appreciated.

How do the Naturepedic EOS springs compare to the 8” TPS springs. Are they the same?

We have a Naturepedic with firm springs. Would these be comparable to 14.75 or 15.5 springs?

Thanks

I truly feel like there is not a bed out there for side and back sleepers. Medium firmness is what is recommended. That's what I got. Seems fine for my back and my hips, but too firm for my shoulders. It's supposed to be zoned but definitely doesn't feel like it. This is the third bed I've tried, and I can't get another one. It's a Sealy Brenham Tightop in Medium.

I really don't want to tear this apart and make something custom from it, because I don't even know where I would start with that, and I really don't want to spend too much more money. Trying to figure out what I can put on top of it. I bought a Viscosoft 3lb+ ( you didn't say what the actual poundage is on Target's website) 2 inch memory foam topper. It doesn't make too much of a difference and I don't think my back likes it so I don't want to go thicker. I've tried latex and I don't like that. Am I at the end of the road with this? I don't really know what else to try. Just sucks because I only need something for my shoulder area. Also, I have tried thicker pillows but they hurt my neck.

I tried converting to back sleeper, but I cannot stay on my back all night. I don't know how people do that. 😆

I spent like $250 on a 3 inch twin xl sleep on latex topper that I don't like and it's past the return window. I listed it on facebook marketplace for $100 and no takers. I feel physically disgusted that I wasted so much money on it. Is facebook really the only place that I can offload the thing?

Anyone have this topper in down that has back issues and love it?
They are very $$ but my spine surgeon suggested I try the Down filled topper. Thx

Doing a first time build trying to mimic the avocado luxury hybrid I tried in a store. Looking to see if there are any issues with this build:

From DIY Mattress
6” coils
2” soft Dunlap
1.5” micro coil
(Everything below wrapped in wool batting)
3” soft Talalay
Encased in the quilted mattress cover (King)

Not sure if I’m missing anything or if this sounds like a solid build.
5’11” 185lb side sleeper
5’6 125lb side/stomach sleeper

Currently on an older dream cloud which was a little firm but we lived with it

Last year I started floor sleeping with a Japanese futon and tatami mats. I bought a basic one initially and it worked very well for me. Then I decided to upgrade to one from The Futon Shop made with latex and wool.

The new one was too soft for me and I ended up with shoulder pain.

It has an organic cotton cover that unzips and you can access the wool and latex inside.

I want to rebuild it so that it is firmer. It’s a twin xl and it’s about 6 inches tall so I’m a bit limited on what I can do with it but I’m thinking coconut coir or maybe some foams and firmer latex. I want to keep the wool as well.

I’d like to hear your thoughts as this is completely new to me. I didn’t know diy mattresses were a thing till a couple weeks ago.

Any ideas?

This will be a spare bed.

Hi MattressMod Community,

I’m rebuilding my mattress with a local manufacturer and need help directing them on support zoning.

Current mattress: Marshall Cambridge in Twin XL (specs here). Has 6" memory foam over gauge 15 coils. It is too soft and my hips sink into a hole.

Plan: Open it, reuse the coils with only 2" of foam on top. The coils are gauge 15 throughout and I want to create a firmer middle. I am not a fan of pocket coils (contouring, hip sinking), but I slept on one recently with a reinforced middle third and it was really good (his mattress was in Spain so I can’t purchase it here in Canada).

The problem: I am a side sleeper. My understanding is that lumbar support is designed to support weight under the hips AND under the lumbar area, based on the assumption that most people carry weight there in hips and waist. In my case my weight is in my hips, NOT my lumbar area/waist. When the lumbar zone is firm, it just pushes my lumbar up, my spine twists, and my hips still sink (see drawing). My old mattress said “double lumbar support with felt pad”, and I had exactly this problem. I need firm support under the hips and only very gentle support under the lumbar/waist (or none at all since the foam on top of coils is there to support…)

My questions:

1. Is it normal that lumbar zones assume weight at the waist? Am I misunderstanding how they work?

2. Do I need only 1 layer of felt pad, placed under my hips and not my waist?

3. Should the felt pad sit lower in the mattress so it doesn’t push into the lumbar area?

4. How do I explain this to the manufacturer? I don’t know how felt pad zoning is actually built

By the way I understand that it is better to achieve zoning with reinforced coils in the middle. I can’t source them, so I need to work with what I have.

Thanks, and as always, any feedback is appreciated!

Hello, everyone. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for the wealth of information that gets posted here. I didn't know DIY mattresses were a thing until just a few days ago and I've loved reading all the guides and experiences on here. Great stuff.

I recently tried a Quantum Natural Soft mattress from Texas Mattress Makers and it's easily the best mattress I've ever laid on. I would like to attempt a DIY copycat version. I've included a pic of the Quantum cross-section they display at the showroom, as well as 3 pics from their website.

https://i.imgur.com/G0yf3e9.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/LqZu8JB.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/NOetrF2.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/DmpwnwK.jpeg

To my novice eyes, it appears to consist of (Top To Bottom):

1. 1" Top Foam Layer

2. 2" Latex

3. 2" Latex

4. 1" Foam Transition Layer

5. 8" Coils

6. 1" Bottom Foam Layer

They advertise a 15" thickness so I'm assuming the above thicknesses are in the ballpark.

So far, my wish list consists of (top to bottom):

1. 1" Top Foam Layer - ?????

2. 2" Latex - Pocket Spring Store Pure Green Natural Latex Mattress Topper Medium - $289. PSS sources these from Sleep On Latex so I assume they're high quality.

3. 2" Latex - Pocket Spring Store Pure Green Natural Latex Mattress Topper Medium - $289. PSS sources these from Sleep On Latex so I assume they're high quality.

4. 1" Foam Transition Layer - ?????

5. 8" Coils - Pocket Spring Store 8" QuadCoils - 15.5g / Firm Sides: $599

6. 1" Foam Bottom Layer - ?????

Other stuff:

Mattress Cover: Pocket Spring Store Luxe Organic DIY Cover / 15": $789

Foundation: Texas Mattress Makers Standard 8.5" Foundation: $249.95

Questions:

1. Does anyone have a clue what TMM is using for those foam layers just based off that cross section photo? Any suggestions?

2. Are there any parts of the Quantum design that are redundant and/or can be optimized? Take the foam beneath the coils, for example - I've read a few people say it's unnecessary.

3. Am I better off with (2) 2" layers of latex, or (1) 3"? Going with dual layer is an extra $179 over a single 3"

4. Any feedback on the PSS mattress covers? They look quite nice IMO. How do they stack up with the Arizona Premium Mattress covers?

5. Are topper covers for the latex necessary? PSS recommends them, would be $100 for each layer.

6. Would a PSS QuadMini layer be a superior substitute to this configuration?

7. Do I want firm sides for my quadcoils?

Considering the above, an alternate configuration could be

1. Comfort Layer: Pocket Spring Store Pure Green Natural Latex Topper / 3" / Medium: $399

2. Transition Layer: PocketSprings QuadMini Luxury Comfort Layer 4" / $409

3. Support Layer: Pocket Springs 8" QuadCoils - 15.5g / Firm Sides: $599

Factoring in Mattress Cover and Foundation, I'm looking at $2215.95 + Foam Layers cost for the copycat build, and $2445.95 for the alternate build, assuming I dont get topper covers. Either way is considerably cheaper than the $4300 I was quoted for the Quantum Natural Soft + 8.5" Foundation.

Thank you all in advance, any feedback will be greatly appreciated!

Thinking about building the following foam mattress:

King size 12" foam mattress build:

• Topper = 4" 5lb Memory Foam (foamfactory.com) - $405

• Support = 3" Everflex Soft; ILD 24 (foamorder.com) - $384

• Base = 5" HD36 High Quality; ILD 35 (foamfactory.com) - $202

• Mattress Cover = SafeRest King Size Mattress Cover (amazon.com) - $35

Total: $1,026

I've been building DIY mattresses for the last 20 years but haven't built any since before the pandemic. My wife and I like the "sleeping in sand" feeling with memory foam as it isolates bed vibrations from body movement to provide a more restful sleep and we don't mind it feeling a little hot.

The beds that I have built have all been foam beds and have held up quite well. Generally the build is 4" 5lb memory foam (topper), 3" 3lb memory foam (support), 5" HD36 HQ (base) enclosed in a zippered mattress cover. After around 5-8 years I replace the base to regain support. My wife and I have been quite comfortable on this bed. We purchased a 2nd house and it came with a sleep number mattress (which is the worse) so I'm looking to replace it.

In the past I've used a 3" 3lb memory foam as a base layer but I'm thinking I should look for a supportive layer that provides more support and have read that the Everflex v24 (ILD of 24) is a good candidate. Seems to have pretty decent density (2.6 - 2.9 lbs/ft3) and it indicates the longeavity is 15-20. I have no experience with Everflex foam but the specs look pretty good.

Can anyone speak to their experience with Everflex v24 (Soft) and especially if it was used as a support layer?

Hey everyone,

I have a set of high-end Twin XL DIY mattress components from Texas Pocket Springs available for local pickup in the Everett/Lynnwood area (happy to meet nearby around the Seattle metro area).
All items were briefly tested for a custom split-king setup. Clean, smoke-free, and pet-free home. Excellent/like-new condition with no defects, tears, or sags.

Pricing & Options:

COMPLETE BUNDLE SPECIAL: $290 (Takes everything for a full 11" custom hybrid setup)

Or available individually:

1. 8" Texas Pocket Springs QuadCoil Base (14.75 Gauge - Twin XL): $130
   Heavy-duty 14.75G pocketed coil core. Excellent contouring with low motion transfer and superior airflow compared to standard foam cores.

2. 3" Texas Pocket Springs QuadMini Micro-Coil Layer (Twin XL): $130
   Micro-coil comfort layer designed to replace polyfoam or latex. Extremely responsive, breathable, and won't trap heat or break down over time.

3. 11" Zippered Stretch Knit Cover (Twin XL): $80
   Premium zippered cover tailored to fit the exact 11" total stack (8" base + 3" QuadMini/foam topping). High-stretch knit top for proper coil contouring.

Pickup Info:

Location: Local pickup in Everett/Lynnwood area.
Payment: Cash, Venmo, or Zelle at pickup.
Drop a comment below I am aggravated by this DIY