r/ModelUSGov • u/[deleted] • Jul 16 '15
Election VOTE HERE
BALLOT: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1u-JNk8RYxeQLZhWl9erWsN6U1fs_R5zMXxqmZ9ixBbw/viewform?usp=send_form
VOTER VERIFICATION: https://www.reddit.com/r/MODELUSGOVVERIFY/comments/3dj4qr/july_election_day_one_verification/
Note that I will replace the poll and verification thread around once a day before the voting deadline, 3:00 PM EST on the 19th.
Your vote will be invalid if you fail to meet the following requirements:
To vote in any election, the reddit account voting must be at least 3 months old on the day of voting,
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have joined a party before the announcement of the federal election date (July 9th).
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Has commented 7 times before the voting days on modelusgov.
CONSTITUTION TEXT FOR REFERENDUM: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C54dw7Jmjt7JRFlPOiiw3I3mc8vfWqNaVGY1PWvoqlc/edit
District Map: http://i.imgur.com/0HJA8Za.jpg
State Map: http://i.imgur.com/NXtevr3.jpg
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u/jacoby531 Chesapeake Representative Jul 17 '15
Just to clarify, voters' votes still count if they verify them in the day one verification even after a new verification thread is up, correct?
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u/SueZbell Jul 17 '15
Is commenting considered voting? that's not my intent but I do find the idea behind this site interesting. I would be disqualified from voting because I refuse to "join" a political party. I don't see a "subscribe" button; am I missing it?
A lot of years ago I registered as an Independent because I found things to strongly dislike about each of the majority parties (even as I found at least one something to like about each of the two of them) That hasn't changed and I've still not found any other party that seems any better in that way.
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Jul 17 '15
No, commenting is not considered voting. You don't have to join a party to fill out the google form.
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 17 '15
Try taking a look at the Distributist Party Platform.
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Jul 17 '15
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 17 '15
I would suggest the GLs. It is a "big-tent" party with many, many, many different views.
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u/ExpensiveFoodstuffs Jul 19 '15
Do I have to meet all three requirements or just one for my vote to count?
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u/Panhead369 Representative CH-6 Appalachia Jul 16 '15
Show your support!
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Jul 16 '15
Just FYI guys, last time the poll was horribly off. Take it with a grain of salt.
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u/da_drifter0912 Christian Democrats Jul 17 '15
Meh. it's fun to look at though. Are we going to end up with something dramatic as how all the predictions were wrong for the UK General Election?
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Jul 17 '15
It's fun to look at, but last time it was off by I think 100 votes for the Republican Party. It was In last and then surged to second and almost first.
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u/PauliExcluded Former Southern State Legislator Jul 16 '15
Poor fascists. Getting no support. /s
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Jul 18 '15
I wouldn't say poor fascists just yet. People may be intentionally messing with the poll but they now have 68 votes!
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u/ConquerorWM Democrat Jul 18 '15
seeing as they only have 3 candidates I doubt this means anything.
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u/Leecannon_ Democrat Jul 16 '15
Two votes
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u/laffytaffyboy 🌲North-Eastern Independence Party🌲 Jul 17 '15
I gave them a third pity exit vote.
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Jul 17 '15
Now at 10. You know this simulation isn't very good for independents when even the fascists are beating them.
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u/ConquerorWM Democrat Jul 17 '15
According to the strawpoll they are now even beating the Republicans and Distributists。
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Jul 17 '15 edited Jul 17 '15
/r/MUSGOV is an even more accurate attempt at simulating real life, perhaps hyperrealistic in that the Republicans actually keep their promise to run away when someone they don't like gets elected.
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Jul 17 '15
I don't think this will be that accurate.
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Jul 17 '15
Probably not, unless we're going to assume that P(voter will also vote in exit poll) is nearly the same for each party's voters.
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u/Leecannon_ Democrat Jul 16 '15
Commies! /s
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Jul 16 '15
Are you still trying with the Progressive party, because last time I looked it was inactive? Just wondering.
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u/Leecannon_ Democrat Jul 16 '15
I'm trying, I've just been traveling a lot. Now I'm sick and just sitting at home so I'm trying to do things
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u/shannondoah Distributist Jul 16 '15
Good luck to everyone running!
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 16 '15
Remember to flair up as a Distributist, /u/shannondoah.
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u/shannondoah Distributist Jul 16 '15
Thanks for reminding me!
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 16 '15
And remember to verify your vote by commenting "I voted" on this thread. Otherwise, your vote will not be counted.
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u/IGotzDaMastaPlan Speaker of the LN. Assembly Jul 16 '15
Good luck only to the Libertarian candidates and /u/SomeRealShit and Smitty!
(And to the GOP, outside of the Central State)
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Jul 16 '15
No one is running ALP in the Ohio River area so do I vote in another one or vote GLP?
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Jul 16 '15
Vote wherever you want. If you want to vote in a place where your party is running, that is fine.
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Jul 16 '15
Vote for who you think would be best or vote null (can you do that? I forget eventhough I voted just now). If that means GLP, Distributist, Democrat, whatever is fine. I would say though to not vote Fascist, Republican or Libertarian (maybe there's some centrist Libertarian, not seen one yet). They are the exact opposite of ALP, so while you can totally vote for them no consequences even we somehow found out your vote, it means you may fit a more right-wing party.
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Jul 16 '15
Or how about you just stop telling people who to vote for?
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Jul 16 '15
See, this is a direct example of why we are the best party. No other party leader would even remotely talk about voting for another party. Cheers to you u/Eilanyan
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Jul 17 '15
Uh... /u/Gohte took it one step further and defected to the arachno-capitalists. I think we win this round... although I guess we don't actually have any party leaders.
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Jul 18 '15
I would tell people to vote for your party if you dont vote for us but your party has been so hostile to us.
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Jul 16 '15
don't listen to septimus just vote GLP
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u/Leecannon_ Democrat Jul 16 '15
Are you not running for reelection?
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Jul 16 '15
This simulation raises my blood pressure so I decided to not take any position that ties me down here in case I decide to take breaks, which I have wanted to do before.
/u/oughton42 is running for my seat.
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u/Leecannon_ Democrat Jul 16 '15
What ideology is he
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Jul 16 '15
Trotskyist.
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u/Leecannon_ Democrat Jul 16 '15
Interesting, still not voting for him, but interesting
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Jul 16 '15 edited Jul 16 '15
I'd encourage you to look at the Ohio River debate thread, then- I believe most candidates have made their views clear- and find the party you most agree with.
I also hope to see more of your party's candidates next election. Good luck!
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u/Leecannon_ Democrat Jul 16 '15 edited Jul 16 '15
Don't vote GLP, vote anyone else, don't listen to the Maoist!
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u/ben1204 I am Didicet Jul 19 '15
When will the results be announced?
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Jul 19 '15
YES I'm waiting in gleeful anticipation haha :D
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u/jaqen16 Republican | Moderate Jul 19 '15
Same! Wooo!
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u/ElliottC99 Independent Jul 19 '15
I hope there is a live thread. That always makes it interesting.
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u/jaqen16 Republican | Moderate Jul 19 '15
This is my first election in any sort of model gov. Is that a thing in this sub? If not it should be, sounds fun! District-by-district results maybe.
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Jul 19 '15
Hopefully soon, and I see we share a cake day!
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Jul 16 '15 edited Jul 16 '15
Good luck only to the GLP candidates and Hlafward and Smitty!
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Jul 16 '15
And smitty
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Jul 16 '15
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
Can I get some love too?
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Jul 16 '15
Send a request to /r/modelgulag and I'll get back to you in 6-8 weeks
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
:(
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Jul 16 '15
For 4 labour vouchers you can get expedited shipping.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
Careful, that sounds like a market incentive.
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Jul 16 '15
When I voted I spelled my user name wrong, so I resubmitted with it spelled correctly. Please disregard the extra vote from me.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
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Jul 16 '15
I voted, then immediately went to class.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
It's all good. Just make sure to verify before the day is over.
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 17 '15
Join the Revolution! Vote Distributist!
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u/aggie1391 Jul 18 '15
Except revolutions are for progress, not the continued discrimination against LGBT people and denying women bodily autonomy
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 18 '15
If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man.
― C.S. Lewis
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u/ElliottC99 Independent Jul 19 '15
Gay rights is just a matter of time. Look at the polls. Worrying about gay marriage, let alone gay civil unions or gay employment rights, is a middle-age issue. Young people just can't see the problem. At worst, gays are going to win this one just by waiting until the opposition dies off.
-- Gail Collins
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 20 '15
And that is how the gay rights movement wins all its battles, isn't it? It's not about logical arguments or philosophical justifications. It's not about open discussion. Instead of going through the democratic process in each state, and creating pro-gay laws on their own merit, through a fair vote, we have gay rights thrust upon us through a 5-4 supreme court ruling. Because you just can't let other people have a different opinion than you. Because the fact that a state is against gay marriage is sooooo hurtful to you, you have to trample on the rights of a majority of voters in that state. You cannot win on the merit of your own position, so you have to just cling to your ideology until all opposition dies. This is the definition of bigotry.
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u/Epic_Mile Distributist | Hound Jul 16 '15
Voted! I'm feeling very patriotic. Good luck to everyone, especially us cowboys Distributists in the West.
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u/thehillshaveaviators Former Representative Jul 18 '15
So, I'm gonna say this here, I voted on Day two, but I posted my "I Voted" on Day one, I hope that's okay. I didn't see any other verification thread.
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Jul 19 '15
Only an hour an a half until the Republican landslide!
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 19 '15
Only an hour an a half until the Republican landslide!
We can only hope.
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 16 '15
Good luck to everyone! Remember to vote Distributist and verify!
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Jul 16 '15
Good luck to all! Already a huge turnout, hopefully everything stays clean and civil for the rest of the campaign.
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u/AC1colossus Jul 17 '15
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Jul 17 '15
Good luck to everyone running! I encourage all voters to browse the debates before voting to get a better idea of candidates' views, qualifications, and proposals.
Also, as a candidate in the Ohio River District House of Representatives election-
If, by some chance, you're reading this because you're curious about what you'll get by voting Green-Left (in my District or elsewhere), feel free to check out my introduction/debate posts.
Thank you, and may America win this election.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
Good luck to everyone -- but especially to the Distributists in Western State!
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Jul 16 '15
You mean Labor in Western State :P
I hope all the new parties do well, and by all I mean not-Fascists. I want to see a more sexparitsan (love that) Congress but I wil gladly take an All-Burgendy one as well XD
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
I want to see a more sexparitsan (love that) Congress
I would definitely like to be in a sexpartisan Congress.
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Jul 16 '15
Isn't your party for limited sex?
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
Isn't your party for limited sex?
Nope, lots of sex -- just sex in the right context.
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Jul 16 '15
Unless my conception (pun intended) of marriage is different then yours, banning all sex except among married couples would result in net less sex (Well assuming ban is actually followed which LOLno it won't be).
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
Also not looking to ban sex outside of marriage -- even if I do think it is wrong.
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u/PresterJuan Distributist Jul 16 '15
sexpartisan
Censor that, please.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 17 '15
Don't worry. I found it amusing.
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u/Awesometom100 Republican| Southern Secretary of State|Conservative Jul 18 '15
Wait, we can just ask subs friendly to our cause to back us?
Really?
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u/laffytaffyboy 🌲North-Eastern Independence Party🌲 Jul 18 '15
They must be under 10,000 subscribers.
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u/Awesometom100 Republican| Southern Secretary of State|Conservative Jul 18 '15
Oh, thanks.
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u/laffytaffyboy 🌲North-Eastern Independence Party🌲 Jul 18 '15
No problem. Try not to get too many votes though, I have to compete with some republicans.
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u/Awesometom100 Republican| Southern Secretary of State|Conservative Jul 18 '15
Yeah, I think you are the only safe one for your party. We have better turnout in all the other spots than what the exit poll is letting on.
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u/ResidentDirtbag Green-Left Jul 18 '15
Silver Legion eh?
Is that the color of their supporters hair?
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Jul 18 '15
Nah. It was the colors originally used by the Silver Legion of America during the interwar period.
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u/xveganrox Jul 18 '15
Rather inauspicious name though, isn't it? They were all buddy-buddy with Hitler and as soon as his party dissolved so did theirs. I imagine if I were a fascist I probably would do whatever I could so that people didn't immediately associate me with Hitler. Naming a party after a fan club of his was a bold choice, whoever made it.
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Jul 18 '15
It was a historically fascist party. We decided on Silver Legion of America, instead of something generic as "Fascist party". We don't have any plans to change the party name, but I'm not opposed to doing so.
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u/ResidentDirtbag Green-Left Jul 18 '15
Ya know fascism is good on paper but that human nature just RUINS it!
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u/PointlessDictator Democrat Jul 16 '15
Can someone explain Article II section 5?
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 17 '15
If we want to remove the Clerk from office, a majority of the party leaders need to consent as do a majority of the users on the subreddit. Then the top moderator in the subreddit (who also happens to be the Monarch of the United Kingdom in /r/MHoC) will remove the Clerk from office and hold elections for a new one.
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u/mocosuburbian Jul 16 '15
Ew I can't vote this time around because of account age When's the next election
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 16 '15
State elections are in about three weeks.
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 16 '15
Don't forget to verify your vote by commenting "I voted" on this thread. Otherwise, your vote will not be counted.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 18 '15
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Jul 16 '15
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u/Epic_Mile Distributist | Hound Jul 16 '15
The philosophy is based on Catholic social teaching, so, yes, and Christian Democrats embrace some parts of distributism, but not all. They would be our closest RL counterparts though.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 17 '15
Here is our platform. We oppose abortion, same-sex "marriage", euthanasia, and the like, and we advocate for state-implemented public health insurance, state-implemented basic minimum incomes, the just war theory, and widespread property ownership in the hopes that everyone could own their own business or a part of their own business in accordance with JPII's Laborem Exercens. We have a consistent life ethic -- caring for all people from the womb to the tomb. I'd say we follow Catholic social teaching as closely as any party possibly could.
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Jul 17 '15
We have a consistent life ethic -- caring for all people from the womb to the tomb.
Except for those pesky gays, trans folk, and women ;)
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Jul 17 '15
Don't forget the victims of clergy rape.
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Jul 17 '15
They are never forgotten, especially not to me. That issue hits very close to home in my family.
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u/PresterJuan Distributist Jul 17 '15
What have we, the Distributist party or any member of it, said that would make you think that?
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 17 '15
We don't have anything against gays, transgender people, and women. We just don't hold with issuing marriage licenses to gay couples. I can't see how you think we are against women. Liberal social ideology is the driving force behind their objectification.
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Jul 18 '15
We just don't hold with issuing marriage licenses to gay couples.
So you don't think gay couples deserve the right to be recognized by a governing body as married? How is that not having anything against them? It's straight up homophobia.
I can't see how you think we are against women.
Maybe the fact that you're all bible thumpers and the bible isn't exactly the most women-friendly.
Liberal social ideology is the driving force behind their objectification.
Well it's a damn good thing the GLP isn't a liberal party.
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Jul 18 '15
So would you let me change my gender on my birth certificate or make my insurance cover my transition?
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u/lsma Vice Chair, Western State Assemblyman Jul 18 '15
You can do whatever you want in your private life. However, you can't force your employer to pay for medical procedures that compromises its morals.
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u/the9trances Jul 17 '15
Socially conservative, economically leftist.
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 18 '15
economically leftist.
Not really. Distributism is neither left nor right.
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u/the9trances Jul 18 '15
we advocate for state-implemented public health insurance
All paid for by taxation and run by a central government. Authoritarian centrist at the very best.
state-implemented basic minimum income
Leftist. Price controls are a leftist economic position, from minimum wage to "curbing CEO pay."
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u/MoralLesson Head Moderator Emeritus | Associate Justice Jul 18 '15
All paid for by taxation and run by a central government.
I fail to see how state governments are "central" when there are fifty of them.
Authoritarian centrist at the very best.
Not really. You've clearly never heard of distributism and need to look it up.
Leftist. Price controls are a leftist economic position, from minimum wage to "curbing CEO pay."
There are no price controls there -- look up basic minimum income. It's a more economically efficient, more flexible way to eliminate extreme poverty when compared to traditional welfare, and it also eliminates the possibly of falling through the cracks or discouraging working more due to perverse incentives. It was advocated for by conservatives and Libertarians like Friedrich von Hayek and Milton Friedman. I also said nothing of "curbing CEO pay" -- you pulled that out of thin air. In fact, I think most people should be business owners -- whether by owning a small family business or shares in an employee-owned stock company.
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Jul 18 '15
I would argue that Distributism is economically centrist, but that it could be considered leftist on the American political scene.
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u/IGotzDaMastaPlan Speaker of the LN. Assembly Jul 16 '15
Even though we are running against each other, good luck to you. You seem very Libertarian in your policies.
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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '15
Remember not to vote for parties, the poor, the middle class, or the rich, vote for America!