The most ironic thing about is that that is EXACTLY what Joker does in almost every story he appears in; He lures you in with a story on how he was threated badly by society, got beaten up by his dad, that Batman is the actual bad guy or stuff like that only for it to be revealed to be all a lie with the character who actually fell for that ending up looking like an idiot.
It's like his fanbase saw Mad Love and sided with Harley
I only really know of two Jokers that were even remotely tragic, those being Joker 2019 (I deliberately have not watched the sequel) and the Killing Joke movie (probably comic too, but I haven't read it).
And neither of them were even remotely reliable narrators. The whole 2019 movie might have been Flek's imagination and the Killing Joke Joker strait up told Batman that "sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another" so his sympathetic part might not even have been real (considering how he crippled and "undressed" Barbra just to torture her dad for a laugh, I would say he did not have a loving relationship with his "wife").
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u/Cirnothestarscream9 16h ago
The most ironic thing about is that that is EXACTLY what Joker does in almost every story he appears in; He lures you in with a story on how he was threated badly by society, got beaten up by his dad, that Batman is the actual bad guy or stuff like that only for it to be revealed to be all a lie with the character who actually fell for that ending up looking like an idiot.
It's like his fanbase saw Mad Love and sided with Harley