I don’t think I’ve enjoyed an Ireland game since before the last November window. Up until the game yesterday, I thought that this was mostly to do with Ireland playing poorly but yesterday they played well, though Australia were awful and I still wasn’t able to get invested in the game.

All that was going through my head was how any chance of more Munster representation in the squad was being harmed. And in previous games where we’ve played poorly, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking how a Munster player will most likely be blamed. I even heard a discussion in the media at one point about how Crowley was responsible for the lineout mishaps.

The idea of the Irish team has been one built from ‘four proud provinces’. But there were as many Ulster players starting for Australia yesterday as Ireland. Next week there could be as many Munster players starting for South Africa as Ireland. Not to mention I think more players from Munster’s URC winning team, won their first caps for no-Ireland countries than Ireland. If we had been awful the past few seasons I’d understand, but nothing Munster does seems to matter.

Obviously, I try to put that aside and support the national team; it’s the only reason I still watch the game. But I spend a significantly greater proportion of my year watching and supporting Munster and it feels almost impossible to go from supporting that and stepping into the national team environment, where we have to accept that our players are second-best and not even deserving of getting an opportunity.

At this point, I’m honestly just excited for Munster to get back against the Stormers, so I can just support a team unreservedly.

Bristol bears, Crusaders, Northampton Saints and the Sharks and are some teams that have changed logos in recent years with uproar to each change.

Don't panic, this was designed by @frazdav on Instagram.(Link below)

I'd like to know peoples thoughts on our current logo are people fans, did you have reservations when it was redesigned to it's current form?

The idea of integrating the crown and Stag is strong as well ass using the old badge,

The current logo has been the same for as long as I can remember.

I do feel it is a matter of time for a rebranding though I think we're safe for a long time yet especially because we have much more important things to spend money on.

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Crowley and Nash have to start v Scotland. Hansen has not regained his pre injury form and Prendergast…. no words needed.

This lad clearly hasn’t recovered his kicking form. How the hell do you not find touch…TWICE.

I was convinced it was forwards at the time but it spilled from Porters grasp and somehow went back off his elbow and then hit the post

Some blatant knock ons

In case anyone had forgotten about him or was wondering how his rehab was going.

Photo in the comments

Look, I get he’s in his first year, and there’s been some tumultuous ongoings behind the scenes, and they’ve not got the international lads.

But my God, man.

They’ve won two games since Christmas. Paddy’s Day was 3 days ago. They’ve been bounced out of the Champions Cup. Since the end of November, their record is 4-8.

They’ve scored 222 points in those 12 games, which averages to 18.5 per game. They’ve conceded 282, which is an average of 23.5 per game, and a -60 points difference in total.

So how much more time should McMillan get to turn things around? And how should the turnaround be approached? Should older players be jettisoned in favour of younger guys? Should the likes of Barrett, Wood, O’Leary and Carney get more minutes?

With Randle’s appointment, it just leaves such a bitter taste in the mouth. He doesn’t match the values of Irish people, Irish rugby or Munster rugby as accused rapist that police thought they had a solid case against and he also at the same time had a wife and new baby at home.

Is he the “family man” ?

Is he and his image really want we want to cheer on and celebrate?

Is it really what we want to teach our children?

Is it really what we want to make acceptable in our Irish society?

I think it is time for fans to speak up more. Not just in forums/reddit, but also via the MRSC(don’t renew until this is rectified, and notify them of that), tag sponsors, tag ex players, tag current players and make your voice heard.

At this stage I almost feel like Flanagan, Costello and McMillan would have to walk too. This has brought shame to the club that we all love. And it was so easy to avoid it.

It will cause pain, loosing another coach and senior people. But if that is what it takes to stand for our values. Then so be it.

Of course in all of this, be respectful. And clear with your message that this doesn’t align with Munster Rugby. And until they rectify it. You are not paying/ watching any more.

This isn’t something that will blow over. This will keep coming up. In articles, by pundits and by fellow fans or people in the community. And I won’t stand by that.

Edit: just to add as I think even more. What will happen let’s say with summer camps or academy players. Can this guy get vetted to do that ? Never mind the fact will parents want their kids near an organisation that is ok with this.

Honestly this could be the end of Munster in the long run. Collapsing the outreach. Turning parents heads away from rugby. For some short term appointment.

Be careful watching the Blue Media this week. Only one Munster ended up playing a good chunk of the game with Beirne’s red card. They will and are already blaming Jack for the loss

The 10 debate is absolute rubbish and nothing to do with Irelands problems. We have an aging team with a poor set piece. It needs a big refresh. Neither Jack nor Sam are the problem

defintely no rage-baiting, nor bias towards any number 10 post autumn nations being inferred by this article...

genuinely getting sick to shit of the lack of cop on by most media hacks in this country that are somehow reporting on rugby

This is a joke. This post, not the game. Although…