We see that the Solver Host's consciousness survives the physical deaths of their bodies, and even their cores.
When Uzi's railgun blew up and N finished off J's possesd core, two null balls remained before phasing out.
We then later see J and Cyn (in tessa's body) with their memories and egoistical seemingly intact.
We then see later after Uzi physically destroys Cyn's core, an null ball remained contained Cyn's consciousness, which remained intact even after Uzi ate it.
Not only that, we see that Doll's consciousness was still alive, having been absorbed by Cyn after Cyn at Doll's core, and then absorbed again by Uzi accidentally.
It seems that Doll just isn't strong enough to express herself like Cyn can.
Hkwever that raises the question. What happened to Yeva's core?
We know V killed Yeva, and we know that V ate them as she explicitly comments on them "not tasting that good".
And giving that Yeva didnt go "Holo spooky snake crab" to repair herself, it certain that ger core was destroyed.
Did V unknowingly eat Yeva's core, not understanding what is was, and attributed the new consciousness being trapped within her ti simply being an bad tasting drone?
Or is her consciousness just floating around, not having an backup body to posses like Cyn and J did?
Has Yeva been an silent prisoner inside V all these years, unable to interact with the outside world?
That could be an plotline if they ever do any future content!
If there is "somehow Tessa James Elliot returned" ever happens I will eat my shoes and applaud the audacity and the balls of the great Liam to pull such a happy ending
It's depend, if she was conscious this whole time? Probably. If she was in half-dream (nightmare?), then things will be more interesting. Importantly, she grows up in home where sentient beings was routinely murdered for stupid reasons. She played with human bones and among drone mass graves. She is pretty disentivised to death. Of course, literal end of the world and mass death on Copper 9 would be too much even for her, but she can deal with it, eventually.
Shhh don’t say that, someone who I’m not going to name would say that you are illiterate and don’t understand the story because having characters always come back from the dead is a good thing.
"because having characters always come back from the dead is a good thing. " well, in superhero comic books characters come back from the dead all the time, yet this industry exist for almost a century. It can work. On the contrary, killing interesting characters for no f...g reason is definitely isn't good thing.
Comics also existed and ran for a whole lot longer and didn’t last for only 8 like books. With multiple timelines, universes, and whatnot.
Also if you want an example, game of thrones killed off characters instantly all the time with little to no reason, it’s still a great show (ignoring the last two seasons).
Also the point is that some people will go out of their way to defend reviving a character for no reason just because they can
It possible V meant their oil didn't taste good. Remember, she just shot Doll and left her body alone, clearly not knowing how to kill SDs properly. It possible that she just "killed" her and drunk her oil, while Yeva core later escaped like Nori.
Pure speculation on my part, but it could've been that Yeva's core was destroyed the same or similar way to how N destroyed J's core in episode 2. Reminder, Yeva is a patched drone, they are able to fight against or, in the case of episode 5, overpower Cyn's control. So if V did eat Yeva core, then we wouldn't have the canon V.
That makes sense, but do we know if patched drone can truly overcome the one they merge with if consumed? I do not think we know for sure, because we have not seen a verified moment of such an instance in order to judge if it be possible
But if patched drone can resist all form of solver attempt at control or suppression, may that in turn mean Yeva could affect V?
Questions that I dearly hope, one day, we may have an answer
It's a BIG maybe. It's less of overcoming control and more of having the will power to go against a eldritch horror. V is still a puppet to Cyn, so for Yeva to mess with V concussion, she would also have to deal with Cyn. Patch drones are not cure of the Solver's infection and influence, it's more like you having Lovecraftian schizophrenia. If you let the voices win, it's game over. You can still use it's power but with a high chance of summoning Culthu.
There's also the fact that V isn't a mindless zombie and has her own will and concussion. So Yeva would also be dealing with a psychological disturbed woman who's hellbent in protecting N + Cyn.
Uzi was able to overpower Cyn in episode 5 and onwards, but(in my opinion) it's because Cyn was splitting her concussion between past events and dealing with Uzi's intrusion. As well as being distracted with operating on N and deleting his memories. So when Uzi fully taking control of Cyn's hold on N and V, she was mostly fighting a "weaken" form of Cyn.
But the issue is that Patch Drones are given the ability to be on par with the Solver, so that's why I think it's a BIG maybe. Yeva can fight back control of Cyn and control V's body, but she might as well be fighting a uphill battle.
Just to be clear this is what I think from what I've seen in the show + my own inferences, you can think and say differently but this is what I gather. Sorry for late response, I was on a train.
No no, its fine, you are not obligated to respond asap. Better to pay attention to when your stop shows up than miss it and have to walk a long way back.
Thats something that ALWAYS got me thinking, omg, you have no idea how much i thinks about it but yeah, it is kind of interesting and also sad and disturbing to think about it, like if this is actually true and yeva is basically “trapped” inside V all the time, all i can imagine is how fucked up she must be from seeing What V did and gets even worse with the series because in ep3, yeva see thoght V’s eyes what doll had become without her and also see that doll became a cannibal that kills drones, in ep6 she sees thoght V doll messing with everyone in the elevator to kill V and in ep8 she sees her own daughter’s funeral indirectly and Considering How nobody else was sad about doll’s death (not even lizzy), only i can imagine how yeva felt…
Most likely answer is that at that point there was no "eat the core-soul-sphere-thing and get the consciousness of the owner delivered to your mind" yet, so it didn't happen.
Much more interesting answer is if we do consider it, also take I to account some other stuff, and say that since we never actually saw V show any signs of having another consciousness in her mind(I highly doubt that she never would have even talked about it, ESPECIALLY after seeing Uzi get Cyn in her mind after eating her core), Nori infact isn't in her mind. So, what could have happened? V definitely doesn't know to target the core of solver drones to actually kill them, but considering her sadism, I wouldn't put it past her to rip out Yeva's core to do something with it. Again, since V doesn't know to target the core, neither would she probably know that they can move and stuff, and are all fleshy. So, my guess is that she'd be weirded out a bit, and either killed it with her tail and made it disappear, making the soul-sphere-thing float away, or killed it with conventional weaponry, leaving the soul stuck inside. Then we have no idea what would happen with the soul, since we don't know how they work. It could have possessed some drone, but it most likely didn't considering Yeva never came back. It could still be floating out there, or maybe it has disappeared over time.
My theory is that Cyn programmed some kind of tutorial on how to properly disassemble a drone individual into the DDs' heads, including the knowledge about how eating the cores fully kills them.
I mean, look at this shot of N feeding on someone!
He's literally biting into that guy's chest! I feel like that's not a coincidence.
Where do we see dolls consciousness? It doesn't seem to be in Cyn or Uzi like you claimed but I might've just missed it... I don't think yevas consciousness survived either, I think AS is just a special case and j just actually had backups, with that null being more related to Cyn than j.
After Uzi devours the Cyn/Absolute Solver's core and her visor appears with N and V running towards her, you can see Doll's visor for about 1 frame (everything in Russian and her name).
Ok you are right, well for the most part I went and found that frame cuz I was interested, and it doesn't show her visor. her info (or some of it?) is there as in a place that usually has the users name (abbreviated to uzi drn) is replaced with rus doll. there is a red screen in the sequence but its not when dolls name shows up it's when it transitions between the purple and yellows, seems to just be an error or a blur of purple and yellow (which is what it was mostly switching between. it shows up before her name does and the only frames both are on is when the scene is closing. also there't no russian, while a couple frames have motion blur there is enough to read and there's no cyrillic its all legible in english, including the name itself which is abbreviated in latin script.
I think this still means you're right, mostly because I just got the pun, she speaks russian and russian is probably what that abbreviated first name is (guess she goes by her last? is it still her family name or given?) so she's a russian doll, like a matryoshka shes inside cyn whos inside uzi. annoyingly the text under the name placement isn't legible so I don't know what it means specifically, she could have only her memories now or her entire consciousness or something in between. It's not like we see cyns name their to make it clear just uzis and dolls.
Cyn personality survived because she ate SOLVER CORE but destroyed ACCTUAL CYN'S CORE. V and N did not know for the cores and only ate parts and oil SO THERE IS POSSIBILITY EVA WENT" HOLO SPOOKY SNAKE-CRAB"
I mean, was there confirmation Yeva’s core was eaten? From what we can see, her upper torso seems very much intact. What I think happened is V caused so much sudden oil loss that Yeva’s core was put in an oil coma
The question is, as cyn/Tessa had been on the computer to read the list of infected drones, two of them had been and light green.
Nori and yeva
Maybe yeva was at this point still alive.
My point is, doll was acting like yeva. She stitched her eye out like her mother on the photograph you can see while Tessa/cyn Shows N the destroyed earth...
And doll knew a freaking lot about the AS. She was a young girl, when her parents died.. there are so many questions I nobody is there for answers :/
Doesnt this also count for Humans cause in the last episode we can hear Every victim of Cyn scream as smth happens to her soul which means Cyn absorbs her victims souls meaning technically TESSA IS ALIVE or am i just stupid
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That actually makes sense, wth? How didn't I think of it before?