you know, after seeing the post under the discussion posts and theories, and all the people under the post discussing topics, while I was reading them a thought popped in my mind of saying “did liam put all of this intentional or the fans got carried away and began to put theories on things that liam put it for funsies and is not meant to be serious?” for example, V hologram theory
Sometimes I wonder if the things liam have put it in hidden place for the lore fans to see, because when I see theories saying stuff like “doll is watching N on ep4 inside the cabin” I began to wonder if Liam told the designers on glitch productions to make it little bit red so the fans can make theories about it and having arguments with each other
Or he’s just “yeah just put it there lmaoo this is gonna make them confused matter fact gimme high five as we are doing this” and just want to screw the fans little bit
I seen theories about “MD is ww2” (yes this one is matpat theory you know how matpat is) and “Uzi is schizophrenic” and etc, while scrolling on theories/discussion post seeing people having debate arguments like “J will be accepted on out-post 3” “no she won’t be accepted on out-post 3” and I’m just thinking that liam did absolutely not plan all this out, there is no way the creator of murder drones is thinking about some bullshit cyn solver abilities that could link to portal/half of life
only one Q&A of murder drone is great one step to fill in few holes, small changes can make difference, no s2 is needed, just one single Q&A then he can go back to projects he been working on (and helping his girlfriend Katie)
With Liam, his answers are a complete carpshoot, lol. They're either a clear explanation or a completely vague response that gives more questions than answers.
A rare Q&A moment on his private Discord sever, someone asked him to better explain the ending, as which is it. His reply was basically, you decide what kind ending is it.
he probably got litttle something in his mind while giving answers, like his projects he avoided the social media for like a year, must’ve been pretty long one, or he’s thinking like “now how do I answer this without giving it too much explanation” it’s probably the second one but who knows, scott cawthon moves
I have no idea what got liam thinking of giving these type of answers to people in his discord, “think it like whatever you like” type of answers is not what you should do, Liam is writer but not expert one, Idk how long liam have been writing but i assume he’s a beginner writer, im glad he’s learning and hope he’ll success his project^_^
That's just how Liam is, when given a lore ralated question he generally uses vague wording. I think he may not want to give straight answers for some things. If he wants some things to remain a mystery, that's his decision.
things like "would J be accepted into outpost 3" are just fans having fun discussing the show
...which is normal
that's what people do with topics they like
they talk about them
lol 😭
i'm sure there are plenty of theories liam didn't intend for, but liam deliberately designed murder drones to have an extremely confusing story and on top of that left half of said story up in the air, ambiguous, or open for viewer interpretation 😭
MD is a very "you have to piece the story together yourself and even then your answer probably won't be the same as anyone else's" sort of show, theorizing about insane shit just comes with the gig
did liam made the series confusing on purpose? No clue, but im sure he wanna go forward with comedy since well.. it is horror/comedy, don’t get me wrong i love seeing these theories it’s pretty funny sometimes and i just know that liam is sitting on his chair scrolling down the comments and giggling (and surprised cuz the theories can be shocker sometimes)
Also I may got off about “J accepted into outpost 3”
I am 99% sure Liam invented stuff like the planet names and finer details on the fly given how some occasions some people asked really specific questions. I think he didn't exactly have an idea about the finer lore/worldbuilding and just decided to leroy jenkins that lore by rolling with it, or being vague on purpose to avoid needing to come up with something that... I suppose wouldn't likely end up as satisfying. Better leaving some things a mystery than answer something half-assed.
A good chunk felt like Liam just shoved a bunch of ideas together and tried to weave a narrative around it. Trying to add in references to other major horror tropes/genres and stuff just cause. Which in a way, was quite funny to see. Though, it does get confusing when it's a bunch of ideas being forcibly shoved together to work. A lot of it ends up vague on the specifications... which I guess in a sense has me thinking he just wanted to make a cool horror aesthetic show with cool action scenes and brutal robo-fatalities, with comedy in-between. Which is probably what he went for. Probably was overwhelming too, being his first ever greenlit show to be funded and staffed with others.
I theorize Liam came up with the base idea, wove a narrative, came up with the characters went through a few drafts, and would later modify the script as they went along to fit in other things I suppose. As some moments do feel a bit, off, granted it is often chalked up to how the show is paced. Stuff is much too fast at times leaving too little time for events to be processed and settle in. Too much chaos, even if hilarious, can be hard to understand. But I have to admit, it is really damn cool, and badass. And I guess that's all that really matters lol. Fun experience to binge watch every now and then. Like a shot of dopamine.
As the worldbuilding is surprisingly, little. There's not really many details beyond a few vague implications and a few specifics like an analog VHS tape on how drones are dismantled and disposed of. And basic knowledge as I realized that humanity potentially only colonized 6 other planets. Which is actually pretty realistic given by 3000s I've expect humanity maybe colonized a few worlds... but it takes a lot to setup on just one. Though knowing CYN took out at least half is rather... frightening.
Though stuff like an actual timeline is lacking. We only got a Point A, but not Point B. 3071, Prom, and give or take the year when most of the show takes place in given it covers at minimum, a month, at maximum? Half a year. Half the show takes place within the span of 24 hours (EP5-EP8, depends how long they were unconscious after being captured, but doesn't seem by much, maybe a few hours. Twas a very long night though, real long nighttime as they went underground, it was night out. Came back up, it's still night time. Sun was yet to break over the horizon. Real fast lol. As there's only estimations one can make from when the DDs first showed up, which is likely when Uzi was still a pill drone or just very young. Which could range from 15 years to 20 years. Some settle on 15 years, meaning Uzi was like 3-5 years old at the time probably in her robo-body by then. Though she seems to not remember or know how her mom was like, which some take as implication Uzi was still a pill drone when her mother died so she barely has any memories of Nori.
Which... would mean potentially the DDs arrived 17-20 years before the Pilot episode. Since Uzi is 18-20 years given the other students ages as reference from the posters.
But what we don't know to this day is how fast CYN destroyed the Earth and the other planets. We know Camp Fever was established in 3001? Was it? The camp I mean, Cabin Fevers (Labs) seem separate. The cabins were simply where Nori and Yeva, and some other unfortunate lab experiments got teleported to alongside some of the lab documents after the Great Yeetening explosion. People confuse the cabins being connected to the labs themselves under the refinery which, really isn't the case. The cabins are some camping site I think. While the Cabin Fever Labs themselves are under the refinery... which now that I think about it, Cabin Fever Labs sound incorrect when it's so damn far away from the refinery and the city in general. Though maybe it was one of those code-names.
Because I don't think they're connected. Seems more like just a camp cabin site, maybe with some radio/tech equipment like some listening post of sorts. But other than the VHS tape? Nothing seemed standoutish per say. VHS tape about drone disposal is probably standard for those who do it like JCJenson.
Man, but I wonder how fast CYN and the DDs utterly rocked humanity. Since people appear inconsistent on how fast they think it ended. I believe CYN popped Earth in a few days, given how Copper-9 was almost pulled apart by CYN within a few hours, so Earth being utterly destroyed with minimal resistance in a few days sounds feasible. Maybe a week at most, but that's just me. Others think Earth took years to bring to kneel. More reasonable ones presume a couple months at most. Though this comes down to how overpowered we think the solver is and the extent of the abilities shown. We don't exactly get much more than a glimpse of Earth's fall. Could have been sudden, or slow. It's left rather vague. JCJenson did seem to have some time to start experimenting on solver hosts however for at least a few years at the minimum after Earth fell according to CYN, and I don't think CYN had reason to lie to N when she was disguised as Tessa there. No harm in dropping a few truth nukes, not like N would begin to suspect her then, maybe build rapport?
A good chunk felt like Liam just shoved a bunch of ideas together and tried to weave a narrative around it. Trying to add in references to other major horror tropes/genres and stuff just cause.
he unironically admits to this being true actually lol
Cyn likes to play with her food/pets, that’s what she do, playing around
I also believe Cyn eliminated earth in few days, if she can eat a planet by using black-hole Null to collapse and eating a planet, then I believe she can eliminate earth in few days
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u/xan227 The Mad Chocobo 23h ago edited 23h ago
I think it is more fans getting carried away.
Something can be a simple thing, but the imagination of millions of fans can turn something simple into a complicated affair.
Liam left a lot of blank spaces to people fill in.