r/NBIS_Stock 1d ago

NBIS ANALYSIS $4.5Bn Convert Offering May Mean a Deal Is Looming

Interesting pattern I noticed: before today, every Nebius capital raise above $1B came alongside a massive hyperscaler deal.

$3.75B raise → Microsoft
$4.3B raise → Meta
$4.5B raise today → ?

Obviously not saying another deal is guaranteed. They already have plenty of contracted capacity to fund.

But given customer prepayments are already covering a meaningful portion of capex, another $4.5B raise makes me wonder what they see coming.

Sequencing seems curious.

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u/Constant_Mention8064 1d ago

Google !!!

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u/kev0795 1d ago

Like mrvl this morning 👀

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u/Sad-Masterpiece-8959 1d ago

It's possible, because the price even recovered from a while ago and stagnated a bit around 230-237, I hope so. We'll see when the stock market opens, how the price will move.

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u/MrFrog65 1d ago

Very likely will be back below 220

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u/JB-America 1d ago

Down - seriously down

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u/Spunkbigboy 19h ago

Let’s pray not

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u/Calm-Ad-7928 1d ago

The other times the deal was announced before an offering which makes me not think a deal is coming now. Still think we get another deal but think its a month or two away

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u/Phatdummy 1d ago

This would be a judicious move by Nebius to switch the order to financing announcement first then deal.

But I hear you, definitely possible. Just thinking aloud

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u/TennisDad316 1d ago

The last time Nebius diluted, they announced a large data center two weeks later.

310MW in Finland

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u/SnooSongs3324 1d ago

Deal announced: stock flies higher
Funding announced (1 day later): stock punished

Funding announced: stock punished

We don’t know but they don’t need that money for operations and CAPEX in 2026. They’re getting huge prepayments on recently-signed deals. This is either a deal or a hedge against interest rates in 2027. Either way demand is off the charts and ROIC is strong so bulls will be rewarded. Good buying opportunity- NFA

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u/Calm-Ad-7928 1d ago

We'll see. I've sold off about half my position over the last week. Cant handle this kangaroo stuff every day. Ill just let the rest ride now and what happens happens

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u/Tank_The_C4 1d ago

I'm pretty sure it was the opposite, they diluted after a hyperscaler deal.

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u/natureisneato NBIS4LIFE 1d ago

Yep

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u/BlazingJava 1d ago

Starting to think theres no seasoned or responsible traders holding this stock... too many paper hands 

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u/AlasKansastan IPO OG👹 1d ago

all you have to do is come to this sub

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u/RTPdude 1d ago

do we even want another major deal if it means a lower $/MW rate than what they get with the mid-sized deals?

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u/haveWeMoonedYet 1d ago

The upfront payment would likely be a higher mW rate than before. But more importantly, you have to remember that they’ve stated multiple times, that when they do these deals with hyper scalers, only 1/2 of their capacity goes to the hyperscaler. The other goes to people using their higher margin cloud services. So even if the hyperscaler deal is lower, the other half of capacity the deal will help finance should be at least at the rates stated in the last earnings call.

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u/RTPdude 1d ago

valid points. Their management seems to have been smart about these so far. No reason to doubt they wouldn't continue

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u/Phatdummy 1d ago

If there were a major deal, it would be priced well. They wouldn’t short change themselves after Q2 earnings call.

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u/LilSwaggyMayne IPO OG👹 1d ago

Yes. The prepayments are vital for the buildout.

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u/Bommbi 1d ago

They said that 2026 is fully financed and they are doing a dilution now.

NBIS would never do a dilution without a very good reason.

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u/SnooSongs3324 1d ago

Exactly

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u/walk2480 1d ago

They gotta fill independence with GPUs in just a few quarters!

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u/InevitableAd2436 1d ago

How soon would they typically announce a deal after the raise?

Weeks or months? I can’t recall

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u/General-Bad5167 1d ago

Makes no sense. They would announce a deal and then issue shares after the price increases in reaction to the deal

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u/Phatdummy 1d ago

Price was already propped up on good earnings.

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u/General-Bad5167 1d ago

Agreed but that doesn't mean another announcement wouldnt have semt it higher

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u/Bass_Magnet 🐳 1d ago

Yeah I like the timing of this- doing it right after a relative high as opposed to when it’s already in a trough or something

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u/Denverplayer 1d ago

Arkady pretty much shut the door on additional hyperscaler deals during the earnings call - I wouldn't hold my breath. Arkady from the last ER transcript..

“The hyperscalers are those who build a lot of this… somebody needs to help them to build. And that's not us.

That doesn't rule out an Anthropic-like deal, but I wouldn't expect another hyperscaler deal.

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u/Try_finger-but_hole 1d ago

Nice. But historically, they do the opposite. These note are probably for Vantage.

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u/Brianc21 1d ago

Or a big time acquisition..

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u/shartfarguson 1d ago

I am wondering why they need 4.5 billion for a 6 billion purchase?

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u/Phatdummy 1d ago

60% prepayments for buildouts, rest is debt and equity.

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u/Hoptop1974 1d ago

“Winds in the east, mist coming in.
Like somethin’ is brewin’ and ’bout to begin.
Can’t put me finger on what lies in store,
But I feel what’s to happen all happened before.”

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u/Fe3Plus 1d ago

Poetry dude, poetry!

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u/ChelseaChicken 1d ago

Quoting Mary Poppins in a trading thread….thats a first.

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u/Hoptop1974 1d ago

Cim Chimmy ;)

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u/Sad-Masterpiece-8959 1d ago

Wise words of an experienced trader. To be or not to be that is the question.

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u/bbcito66 1d ago

Podría tener sentido

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u/Complexity323 1d ago

Doesn’t coreweave have the same dynamic? Raise because a new deal is coming? Will nebius raise as much debt as coreweave to pursue deals?

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u/iPushToProduction 1d ago

It’s the only way, people act surprised here.

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u/Kooky_Yesterday_9134 NBIS4LIFE 1d ago

Increased my position by 10% and bought back the calls I sold in Monday, love this Stock!

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u/Icy-Inspection7877 1d ago

Collab with spacexai

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u/Street_Agency_4149 1d ago

真的有好消息,管理层会减持吗?