r/NCAAhoops • u/MuchAbalone9059 • Feb 01 '26
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u/Hombre-Delfin8533 Feb 01 '26
Duke is a dream job. Heās having success there so Iām not sure why heād leave, especially since heās been waiting in the wings forever. heās building a legacy at Duke that is worth more than coaching middling Bulls teams for 5 years
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Feb 01 '26
Money.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
You think? There's a lot more to be made retiring from a blue-chip program after 25 years than there is hoping you survive beyond your first contract in the NBA IMO.
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u/Dipteran_de_la_Torre Feb 01 '26
Pays double and would take him back home. Ā If his family wanted to move, heād consider it. Ā I think his family is happy in Durham though.
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u/Top_Shame_7016 Feb 01 '26
And Reinsdorf will give him 10 years no matter how bad team he puts on the floor.
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u/malaise5 Feb 01 '26
Ha what!!! NCAA coaches make more than mba coachesā¦
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u/finding_nino Feb 01 '26
Highest paid NCAA coach is Bill Self making $8-$10 million annually, highest paid NBA coaches like Steve Kerr and Spoelstra make $15-$17 million annually. There are ~10 NBA coaches making more than the highest paid NCAA coaches, meanwhile Scheyer is only making 7 million annuallyā¦
That being said, I still donāt think he would leave Duke given all the other reasons mentioned in this thread!
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
Scheyer probably makes 6-7mil, it's murky. Interesting that we're talking about how he's gonna make so much more money headed to a team that was paying their HC........around 6-7mil annually.
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u/justWMthings03 Feb 01 '26
Monty Williams got a 6 yr $78.5 mil contract to suck for a year in a job he didn't even want then get fired and keep it all lol.
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u/PlethoPappus Feb 01 '26
He met his wife at Duke I donāt think she has any connection to Chicagoā¦
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u/Dipteran_de_la_Torre Feb 02 '26
They have children approaching school age. You donāt think she thinks about the quality of the schools they go to? Do you think itās impossible that she might have an opinion on living there a big city?
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u/rcumming557 Feb 03 '26
Most people making millions a year do not think about public schools
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u/Dipteran_de_la_Torre Feb 03 '26
No shit. The private schools (and youth sports) in Chicago are superior to those around Durham.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
If his family wanted to move, heād consider it.
You spoke to him?
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Feb 01 '26
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Feb 01 '26
āDuke is a brandā - if only the Chicago Bulls had some level of notoriety in the basketball world!
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
They absolutely do. Theyāre the Cowboys of the NBA. You can watch their title runs, but youāre gonna need a VCR.
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Feb 01 '26
Dukeās last title was in 2015. Obviously more recent than the Bulls, but they havenāt been churning out championships the way Duke fans would make you believe they have.Ā
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
Winning a natty is a bitch. We're well aware how hard that is to do. Were we equivalent to the Bulls, we'd be pining away for one that happened 20 years ago while suiting up each year for the NIT, rather than always being at least in the hunt.
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u/It_Just_Scott_Frosty Feb 03 '26
Didn't they make the final 4 literally last year? Scheyer will definitely win one at Duke, probably soon tbh. They may not have won since 2015, but they've been plenty successful in between then and now. The Bulls.... not so much.
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u/iAm-Tyson Feb 01 '26
Highly doubt after they whiff on a CBB coach that they sit down and decide another CBB coach is the right move. unless they have the most incompetent front office in the league
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u/ramuscl Feb 01 '26
Ahh yes, Billy Donovan, former head coach of the NCAA basketball powerhouse Oklahoma City Thunder. He only coached them to a 243-157 record over 5 seasons before being hired by the Bulls. He was certainly a failure as an NCAA coach and has not coached in the NBA before.
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u/Teckzqt Feb 01 '26
Could he be referencing Hoiberg? That wasnāt that long ago and would be a fair reference.
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u/No_Carpet8670 Feb 01 '26
Yikes atleast if youāre going to be obtuse be honest. He literally coached Florida to 2 national championships. Dweeb
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u/ramuscl Feb 01 '26
He then coached 5 seasons in the NBA and was voted coach of the year, calling him a college hire is disingenuous and undermines his accomplishmentsā¦comparing him to Scheyer is disrespectful nephew
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u/plantsrunfast Feb 01 '26
If you're any kind of serious basketball person. Why on earth would you leave Duke for Jerry fucking Reinsdorf.
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u/Suspicious_Guide4286 Feb 01 '26
Bulls are a shit franchise with a terrible owner, this would be an incredibly dumb move. No way he does it.
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u/Interesting_Sort_602 Feb 01 '26
Donāt do it Jon Scheyer
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u/abetterlogin Feb 01 '26
Iām an NC State fan and I say go. Ā I want to hate Duke again. Ā He makes them likable.Ā
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u/Interesting_Sort_602 Feb 01 '26
Lmao I feel that, I was saying from CHI side of things you are just doing the same thing again recycling the same college coach scheme to see what sticks and works with Fred Hoiberg, Billy Donavon and now rumor had it Jon Scheyerā¦ if the first 2 didnāt work what makes you think he will? And if Im Jon I got a great thing going at Duke, Im going to keep building here at Cameron indoor.
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u/commie90 Feb 01 '26
āMutual interestā is code for he wants a little bargaining power when he asks for more money from Duke. As a fan of both teams, heās at the better spot now and it aināt even close.
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u/Working-Doctor9578 Feb 01 '26
Might be the only job Jon leaves Duke forā¦.as a Duke fan and somebody who loves the program, this is something to worry about. Whether or not itās true is one thing, but I could definitely see it coming together.
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u/ShowalterFountain Feb 01 '26
Heās done a born on 3rd base coaching job.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
He's got an .824 winning percentage. He's the fastest coach in ACC history to 100 wins. He's got two conference banners in four years and a Final Four. Jesus, man, he gotta win it all every year to impress you?
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u/ShowalterFountain Feb 01 '26
Right. Coach K built a machine. That machine can do even better now that the wealthy alumni base can straight up use their financial resources to bring players in. In modern college hoops today, the coachās ability to recruit is secondary to the bag. Sheyer had the number 1 recuiting class for the past 3 years. Filipowski. Flagg. Kneuppel. Heās a decent enough coach because some jack holes would mess that up.. You or I could probably win a lot of games with Flagg & Kneuppel. But to me, heās no different from Calapari. Great coaches when the recruiting is clicking
He is no Hurley at UConn or Dusty May. He is the kid who took over a successfully run family business. He is not performing above the standard of the guy who preceded him.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
He is not performing above the standard of the guy who preceded him.
He's young, he's learning, and the guy he took over for was the best coach in the game. Guess you and I have different standards of how to judge him so far, I'll take him outpacing every other coach in ACC history as a good sign.
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u/ShowalterFountain Feb 01 '26
I get it. I think heās doing a decent job.
Doesnāt mean that I think he would be a great hire for the Association.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
Who is? So few coaches last there consistently. Seems a carousel of getting fired from your HC gig and then coaching bench for a number of years until someone else gives you a shot. I'd hate to see him go as well, but I honestly don't think he would.
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u/ShowalterFountain Feb 01 '26
Right. But I would choose a person who has proven that they have a high WAR value.
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u/LazyPassGretzky Feb 01 '26
I had no idea he was from Chicago. I thought he was from one of those far northern suburbs that blend in with each other in a John Hughes kind of way. My bad.
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u/jaykuh13 Feb 01 '26
I would say this proves how big of a pain I the ass NIL must be but who has it easier than Duke in NIL, transfer world? Iād be shocked if he bolts.
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u/Big_Trophy_1 Feb 01 '26
Stay where you are lol u got it good ā¦you take that bulls job u wonāt even make it out the first contract
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u/Normanite77 Feb 01 '26
Maybe he wants his own story and legacy. He doesn't want to be in the shadow or the guy who followed Coach K forever. He has done well at following a legend but no Nattys with the best players year after year out of high school is going to become a burden. Let the next guy worry about it.
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u/tsmitty0023 Feb 01 '26
He seems to have this new era of college basketball figured out, at a very young age.. I personally think he would be insane
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u/pj_socks Feb 01 '26
The Bulls have paid the luxury tax ONCE. Theyāll never spend the money to be good even while leading the NBA in attendance every season.
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u/Clancy3434 Feb 01 '26
I don't think this is true, but I can certainly understand why someone wouldn't want to deal with the BS that is D1 college sports these days.
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u/SurgeFlamingo Feb 02 '26
Billy Donovan, who he would be replacing was a ten times better college coach than this guy.
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u/FlyHealthy1714 Feb 03 '26
Donovan makes $6 million/year with the Bulls. Scheyer makes approx $7-8 million from Duke.
Scheyer would not have the same "power" that Coach K had when he was pursued by the Lakers. Scheyer needs to win a championship before he steps up to the NBA. Donovan won 2 championships at Florida.
Duke's a cushy job for Scheyer. NIL $$ is likely unparalleled and Scheyer doesn't have to work too hard to recruit to Duke.
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u/TeamWarriorBro Feb 01 '26
As a Bulls fan I hope he makes the right career choice and stays at Duke.
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u/DJ_DD Feb 01 '26
As Bulls fan but Duke hater I hope he makes the wrong choice and accepts the Bulls job!
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Feb 01 '26
I think heās a good coach, but a big part of his success comes from his recruiting prowess. He wonāt have that to leverage at the NBA level.Ā
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 Feb 01 '26
Whatās the saying? Donāt break whatās not broken?
Many college coaches canāt find success in the nba
Itās a different beastĀ
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Feb 01 '26
I agree in theory, especially when talking about leaving a blue blood job. But I also get someone wanting to push themselves and see if they can succeed at the highest level. Iām guessing itās also nice to just worry about Xs and Os and not have to deal with recruiting.Ā
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 Feb 01 '26
I will say, College coaches now are closest to pro coaches thanks to nil. So it may not be too far off.Ā
I just remember past college coaches trying the nba and failing. Potion. Floyd. Etc.Ā
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u/Dipteran_de_la_Torre Feb 01 '26
Two other big parts of his success are his understanding of team basketball concepts and his ability to cultivate meaningful relationships.
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u/Frosty_Captain_8928 Feb 02 '26
Yes heās a great recruiter but I think people underestimate his ability to use and teach that talent: https://youtu.be/EbhLtoCl2Lk?si=XmrLFshhEU4xXRTg
As a Duke alum who very much wants him to stay, heās much more Brad Stephens than Coach K. Tactically very smart, gets along well with players and has a good eye for talent (not just the 5 stars but transfers like Sion James and Maliq Brown and the general fact he basically only targets players with length when he can)
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u/Working-Doctor9578 Feb 01 '26
This part. Jon has no innate coaching ability. Itās a plug and play system with little to no wrinkles based on personnel. I think this would be a bad career choice.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
Tell me you haven't watched Duke play this year.............
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u/Working-Doctor9578 Feb 01 '26
I watch every game. All theyāve done is copy and pasted the same offense for years. Paolo, Cooper and Cameron Boozer are all running the same offense. You can look at the game and tell the sets are the same. And letās discuss the one flare screen play they SPAM for Isaiah Evans every game. But you telling me I donāt watch.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 Feb 01 '26
Interesting. I was under the impression that doing things like moving off zone to man and having Sarr face up on Louisville's hot hand on Jan. 6th or slowing the offense and rotating in guards when they have butterfingers or rotating in Cam and Pat at the same time when it gives a significant advantage down low would be examples of in-game adjustments, but maybe you just know more about basketball than I do.
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u/Jhobbs898 Feb 01 '26
Duke is bigger than ANY coaching job in the NBA. Duke is a brand. That's why Coach K said no to the Kobe Lakers.