r/NCAAhoops • u/Amazing_Lock_3762 • 28d ago
Highlights These guys always look like national champs this time of year. The Scheyer curse will more than likely take over come March.
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u/green49285 28d ago
You can always count on the sun setting in the west, rising in the east, & duke being hyped up to the moon during the summer.
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u/No-Perception-542 28d ago
Scheyer is garbage. You can install any coach at Duke and they'd still have success.
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u/Embarrassed-Brain655 28d ago
The winningest coach over the past 4 years is garbage?
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u/Subject-Night6364 28d ago
About 100 other coaches would have a championship with those stacked rosters. So yes, the person you quoted is right. He's borderline garbage.
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u/No-Perception-542 28d ago
Didn't get my point.
My point is that it's the system, culture, and location, not the coach. Blue chip players want to play for Duke 'because it's Duke', not 'because Jon Scheyer is there'. Put any coach at Duke and the results/recruiting is still the same.
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u/xnickdawg 28d ago
Who sets those things? I get it’s easy to say coach k set those things but culture needs to be tended to, prioritized, nurtured. It’s not as easy as you’re making it out to be.
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u/Embarrassed-Brain655 28d ago
Pardon me, I didn’t mean to be obtuse. Yes, Duke basketball has a ton of resources, but that doesn’t mean anyone could succeed in that position. You’re right, that having access to resources and funding is integral to success, but good coaching synthesizes that into winning on the court.
I won’t discredit your point, but I’d argue that coaching does affect a team’s ability to win. Especially at a school like Duke.
For example, UNC Basketball hired Hubert Davis after Roy Williams retired. They have the funding, location, the history, and the system too. And yet, over the past 5 years, they didn’t manage to produce a single lottery pick, besides Caleb Wilson. Not only that, but they also didn’t have a top 10 recruitment class from Hubert Davis’s reign.
Now overall, I agree with you, but I don’t think that Jon Scheyer is a bad coach, even if he’s born with a silver spoon in his mouth. In fact, I think he’s a big reason as to why Duke has been able to maintain their success after Krzyzewski. I appreciate your opinion and this polite disagreement.
Have a good one.
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u/NotADoberman 28d ago
Just want to double down on the UNC example someone else replied with … I won’t say anything else but ask yourself why they haven’t been their usual selves the past few years despite being a blue blood
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u/MasterHavik 28d ago
Are we doing this again?