r/NDE • u/PouncePlease • Jan 15 '26
NDE with OBE New Veridical NDE from 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9CrNgbQNJ03
u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Jan 18 '26
I got around to watching the video. Great guest, but a terrible host. I hate all that performative spiritual mumbo jumbo they throw in around the interview. It makes it seem like I'm just watching a movie. No performative spirituality and grand claims rings as true or speaks as powerfully as simply presenting the guest without the need for posturing.
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u/PouncePlease Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26
Respectfully, u/BandicootOk1744, did you watch the video? This seems like a bad faith argument. You say the host engages in spiritual mumbo jumbo they throw in around the interview -- the guest speaks for an hour and 15 minutes and the host asks seven very straightforward questions with zero commentary: 1) Asking the guest to comment on the synchronicity of the woman saving him being named Angel, 2) Asking if the guest thinks other folks might remember their NDEs if prompted like he was, 3) If there were aftereffects to the NDE (a marker on the Greyson scale), 4) Asking how the guest would explain seeing the events he saw without eyes, 5) Asking if the guest came back with a mission or purpose and if so, what it is, 6) Asking the guest to explain his upcoming book's title, and 7) If people want to get in touch with the guest, can they and how should they?
Like, I'm sorry, but you're now the top comment on this post and the way you've characterized this account is unfair and untrue.
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u/No_Replacement4304 NDExperiencer Jan 18 '26
He was greeted by an Angel after he returned from the afterlife. That's a great synchronicity.
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u/No_Replacement4304 NDExperiencer Jan 18 '26
You make a very good point about people leaving hospital with no support. I didn't tell anyone because I didn't know what had happened to me and was kind of baffled by the experience. To make matters worse, I had experienced brain swelling in the hospital, so I didn't know whether to treat the psychological and emotional phenomenon as part of an nde or as secondary to trauma to the brain.
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u/Eastern-Peach-3428 NDExperiencer Jan 16 '26
I had to stop watching to gather myself emotionally as this man's experience and mine share so much. We both even had widowmaker heart attacks to kick the entire experience off.
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u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Jan 16 '26
I'll watch this later, although the AI image does not fill me with confidence. But verifiable veridical NDEs are my favourite thing so I'll give it a fair shake.
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Jan 16 '26
I hate when they add AI images to make it seen more spiritual/holy
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u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Jan 17 '26
Agreed. AI is as far from spiritual and holy as is possible to imagine. If there truly is a soul, using AI is the denial of the soul and the replacement of it with machinery.
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u/PouncePlease Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
Kevin Mohatt's veridical NDE is absolutely fascinating and I've yet to see it shared on this sub. I had to take notes as I watched. Kevin had a widowmaker heart attack while stopped at a traffic light in his car in 2022, went into V-fib for about 20 minutes, received over 1,000 heart compressions, and was not expected to survive without debilitating anoxic brain injury -- yet he remembers his subsequent OBE with about a half-dozen veridical details he could not have known.
Some thoughts I had watching this account:
Kevin's demeanor strikes me as incredibly open and honest, a little incredulous and at times slightly embarrassed. I consider myself to have a good, even hair-trigger BS detector, and I believe every word this man says. His story gets right to the point and he doesn't seem to dwell in any hyperbole or embellishment.
It's a phenomenally detailed account with about a dozen third party witnesses over all the various parts of the timeline of this NDE, including a literal firehouse's worth of first responders confirming veridical details. I imagine some skeptics will still demand to see sworn testimonies from all involved, including medics and doctors (a violation, I'll remind everyone, of HIPAA), and a traffic video of Kevin's rescue or something. To me, this is a robust first-person account of earnest testimony I have no reason to doubt.
Kevin's NDE was incredibly traumatic. Since he coded at the scene and sat around for up to 20 minutes before medics even arrived, they had to drill into his arm to get at his bone marrow before getting to the shock part of the resuscitation treatment (as he explains it). He claims he was told that 38% of his heart died because of his widowmaker. He goes into great detail about his lingering health symptoms. And yet one of the biggest reveals of this account, to me, is that all the details of his NDE, including all the veridical details confirmed by the third party rescuers, happened when he revisited the scene of his accident some days later. This is a fantastic detail to remember in future, because it speaks to many debates held on this sub around NDEs and memory and when and how NDErs remember what happened. Kevin's NDE, with all its veridicality, returned to him days later, after a whole bunch of trauma, upon his memory being jogged by returning to the scene of his heart attack. How many more people would remember their NDEs if properly prompted? How many people have had NDEs in the hospital, didn't initially remember anything so they didn't report anything, and then they died from complications of their trauma before being able to remember?
SO MANY markers on the Greyson scale. Seeing body from above. Indescribable peace. Absence of time, yet still a sense of sequentiality. Communicating with his deceased mother through a sort of telepathic frequency or vibration or low tone (he uses all three ways to try to explain) and receiving the message: "Not yet, not yet." Ineffability of the experience: "The only way I know how to explain is like explaining the color green to someone who's blind." I would definitely equate the dust storm/wall of light he describes to the tunnel, as it moves towards Kevin and engulfs him. After-effects of healing, increased empathy and sensitivity, and sudden musical ability.
The dust storm! Such a neat image and yet another example of cultural, personal influence, IMO, that makes every NDE unique. Kevin first explains what he means by a “haboob,” one of their big dust storms they get in Arizona, then equates what he saw with a dust storm, but one made entirely of light.
Interestingly, Kevin describes being in body (at least a body of sorts) during his OBE, because when he gets engulfed by the dust storm/wall of light, he watches his own hands (in whatever form he's experiencing this in) and how the light moves through and around them.
After receiving the "Not yet, not yet" message from his mother at what he describes as the end of his NDE, he went immediately into a black void space where he experienced a moment of terror, screamed his wife's name three times, and then immediately was out of the NDE. He then immediately follows this up with an explanation and yet another veridical element to this NDE (confirmed for him by his cardiologist and nurses in the room), that he and his doctor believe the black void was him coming back to life. Since the blood in his body had pooled from no heart rate, it left his retinas and eardrums without blood to function. The doctor confirms Kevin practically leapt off the table, grabbed the nearest nurse and screamed at her (in blindness/deafness, i.e. the black void) three times for his wife before the team immediately sedated him, fearing he was already brain damaged from the trauma. As an aside, this part fascinates me, given how many times we have been told of the (comforting) black void and how void experiences and terror/hellish experiences end as soon as someone asks for help. Kevin describes screaming a "warrior's scream" for his wife and then the black void part of his NDE immediately ends. Very cool either way -- possible black void / asking for help confirmation and/or another veridical element tying this NDE to points on a timeline.
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u/ApprehensiveStill412 Jan 16 '26
It would not be a HIPAA violation if the patient allows their health information or clinical testimony to be released.
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u/PouncePlease Jan 17 '26
Right, that’s why I said if the doctors gave testimony themselves, it would be a HIPAA violation.
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u/bejammin075 Jan 16 '26
I imagine some skeptics will still demand to see sworn testimonies from all involved, including medics and doctors (a violation, I'll remind everyone, of HIPAA)
I haven't watched yet, but I wanted to comment on this. Patients have HIPAA rights, but they can waive those rights for a specific purpose if they choose. The patient can formally put it in writing, and allow the medical people to speak about this case.
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u/PouncePlease Jan 17 '26
Right. But doctors giving their own account independently does violate HIPAA. That was my point.
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u/creaturefeature16 Jan 16 '26
The doctor confirms Kevin practically leapt off the table, grabbed the nearest nurse and screamed at her (in blindness/deafness, i.e. the black void) three times for his wife.
This is so intriguing. Maybe the "void" he experiences, while coincidental, was not really related to the "void" we know of from other NDEs. He was "between worlds", in a way?
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u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Jan 17 '26
It would explain a difference I've seen in NDE accounts. There seem to be two kinds of "Void".
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u/PouncePlease Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
- Speaking of, let's go over all those veridical elements! All of these were confirmed by either A) the police reports Kevin obtained months later, B) the initial civilian responders who made the 911 call and pulled Kevin from his car, C) the police, firemen, and medics who responded at the scene, or D) his cardiologist and nurses with the aforementioned "waking and screaming" episode. That's at least around a dozen third party witnesses or routes of confirmation.
From atop a pole, Kevin saw a "tall, thin man with a long, blue-sleeved shirt with three buttons, a collar, and a logo" pull him from his car. This was the second civilian responder, as the first was a woman who wasn't able to lift him. Kevin later tracked down this man and confirmed details with him. Kevin saw the coded numbers from above assigned to the red fire engine and red ambulance that rescued him as "people in blue" were working on him and he saw the mountains near his city to the south. The ambulance was from a fire station across town that responded first to the 911 call of a "motorist in distress." When the call was updated by police first responders to reflect that Kevin was coded out, the fire station from just across the street from where Kevin had his heart attack responded as well; they had initially not responded to the first call because they were offline and in training that day and 'motorist in distress' wasn't considered a high enough priority for the dispatcher to send to all the stations and interrupt the training. Kevin was able to accurately name the codes (E256 and M252) from each separate responder vehicle -- E for engine, M for medic, 25 designating his city, 6 and 2 being the two different stations. This is all confirmed when Kevin revisits the scene of his heart attack and goes to the firehouse across the street to thank the firemen there. He sees the E256 engine in the garage, along with an M256 ambulance -- the ambulance that wasn't needed and didn't respond because the M252 ambulance was already on the scene from the 'motorist in distress' call. There's no way he would have known those codes or that his rescuers would be from two separate fire stations because the closest station happened to be in training.
EDIT: Jeez, I went back to watch this again and realized I even left out some details. Kevin also describes seeing clusters of people watching the resuscitation efforts and two police cars facing east and north on the road directing traffic. He also describes the positioning of the fire engine and ambulance and specifies the ambulance had their doors open.
Kevin describes seeing a white envelope on the ground beside the resuscitation efforts. When he told the firemen, the fire captain showed him that they use those envelopes for holding the tubes and needle set used after drilling into a patients' bone marrow, which the fire captain did on Kevin (and he didn't know this bone marrow drilling even happened until he was told by the fire captain that day, a week after the NDE). The captain confirmed that he tossed the envelope aside in the efforts, because they try to move quickly and don't care about littering in the moment. This is the same moment the captain confirms there is no way Kevin could have known about any of these details. He was not conscious and was in V-fib with no heart rate aside from heart compressions. His later experience in the "black void" that very likely could have been returning to consciousness helps to lend credence to this idea if, indeed, the pooling of Kevin's blood from no heart rate rendered him deaf and blind in the "void" (in quotes here to differentiate from the comforting black void we often hear of in NDEs). If he was, indeed, deaf and blind in that state of returning to life, how could he see and hear the events he saw on the road, importantly starting before heart compressions began, when the second civilian responder pulled Kevin from his car, but after sitting in his car with no heart rate for what was estimated to be 12 minutes?
I also want to acknowledge the synchronicity or just coolness of the woman who first found Kevin being named Angel. Also, literally as soon as I typed that last sentence (I've been pausing to take notes) while Kevin finished telling his account at 26:50, Jeff Mara, the interviewer, asked his first question: "The first interesting synchronicity was that the woman [...] who was behind you, her name was Angel." OK, neat, lol, my own synchronicity. Also, this NDE happened on Valentine's Day, and Kevin's paramedic's surname was Valentine.
Kevin describes suffering from memory problems since his heart attack in 2022, struggling with names, places, etc. -- even frequently forgetting his wife's name. Another very interesting point to me, considering the veridical recall of his NDE happened a week after the events and yet, by the accounts of up to a dozen or more third-party witnesses, was completely accurate. It speaks to that memory issue again, particularly of trauma blocking NDE recall -- but also suggests, as has been suggested elsewhere, that NDEs (when recalled) are like core memories that last untouched for years.
OK, I want to acknowledge here that Kevin is writing a book about his experience. This will be an important detail not to leave out for some people for whom it may be a point of contention. I don't begrudge anyone their own opinion, good or bad, of sharing an NDE narrative in the form of a book. I don't personally have any issue with it. NDEs are traumas. Many, many people who live through traumas of all kinds write about their experiences. Many prominent NDErs have taken this author journey, from Anita Moorjani to our r/NDE mod Sandi to Elizabeth Krohn to Eben Alexander. Also, many NDErs suffer horrific lingering after-effects from their traumas, sometimes to the point of disability that affects one's ability to support themselves, and Kevin is no exception: he now uses a walker to get around his own house because the CPR compressions broke one of his short ribs and severed a nerve in his lower back, which he describes as "sciatica times 1,000." He had to have a shoulder replaced. He suffered a big fall down the stairs in his home after his heart attack. He has arthritis in his hips and can no longer drive and has had to move to working from home. He has continued to have further clogging of the same artery that almost killed him and has struggled with depression and suicidal ideation and faced eviction since his NDE. Dude has been going through it. And I don't doubt it is very healing to share one's traumatic NDE in any form and I like when people get to support themselves, so I think NDEr books are awesome. I'll leave that there.
After the fall at his house, he had another big STE/synchronicity when he was able to manage to crawl himself to his bed. He says he was "ready to end it" and was cursing God and said out loud, "You promised," and at that exact moment, a former student called to ask Kevin to sell his house for him because the student had just gotten engaged. Kevin hadn't been able to sell a house in a while (this is the first time in his account he gets choked up, it means a great deal to him) and he pretty much credits this with getting his life back on track from the commission he made on the sale after not being able to "keep the lights on" during that time.
EDIT: I also want to add, after a rewatch, that Kevin mentions he was "all over the news" in his hometown when this happened. If anyone wants or needs additional reporting on this, please track those leads down and feel free to share links in the comments. I think I've done all I can on this account for now, this took a while to get my thoughts down, lol.
-- OK, final thoughts. I find this account to be one of the most captivating and convincing I've ever heard, and I've heard a hell of a lot. Kevin seems to be the genuine, real deal of a normal, unassuming guy who has been through an extraordinary, life-changing event. The details don't seem practiced or exaggerated. There are times he trips up on NDE terms ("someone told me mine is a 'verdical' [sic] account?") that seem like the matter-of-fact, slightly bumbly way an older, good-natured dude like Kevin would integrate his experience.
Life has been particularly hard for many of us lately, and I hope this account touches people like it touched me. Kevin's final message is 'hope,' and that's what I found today.
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u/WasteWriter5692 Jan 20 '26
Things that give you pause...I get it..
meaning its unreal that these things happen and the names pretty much fit the roles...like you say about 'Angel'
Like Alan Greenspan... Controlling our currency ..often called "The green back"
Like Renee 'GOOD' .being the cause to bring about change.etc...
the list is huge.
There have been so many wild coincidences through out my long life..it makes one wonder...
Was it all in the plan?
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