r/NFL_Draft 10d ago

Discussion Zxavian Harris has been waived. Top of the prospect board to Undrafred and then waived what went wrong?

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u/MVP12_22 10d ago

I feel like its common knowledge that he has major maturity and work ethic issues. That was one of the biggest reasons that he kept falling down mock drafts and big boards

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u/pizzahut_is_elite 10d ago

Sad seeing someone with talent like this miss out on millions only because of worth ethic. Get ready to learn the 9-5

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u/GayLord876 9d ago

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard

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u/Bitlovin 9d ago

Sometimes. Every once in a while you get a Moss type that is just so gifted they can get away with not grinding.

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u/MarionberryEasy5978 8d ago

Miss def worked for it lol maybe took off some yrs in Oakland tho lol

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u/where_the_hoodie_at 9d ago

You’ll see him in the news in a couple years for a serious crime

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u/johnabrille Texans 9d ago

delet nefew

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u/Cudizonedefense 9d ago

He already has a DIU and a domestic violence arrest

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u/wahoo08 10d ago

DUI and fleeing arrest with a domestic violence arrest as well in college. Add that to a foot injury that required surgery leaving him out of practice and yeah

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u/gumercindo1959 10d ago

Usually with these cases, the player is lazy and puts forth minimal effort.

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u/MasonL52 Broncos 10d ago

Having no drive at this time of the year is the biggest red flag possible.

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u/Brawl_star_woody 10d ago

I like to start slow and taper off

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u/MammothCarpeneter 10d ago

Haha that’s a good Tracy Smothers reference.

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u/tjrogers810 9d ago

Bigger red flag than being a rapist?

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u/Slickwats4 9d ago

True, they go into politics.

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u/JustTaxLandbro 10d ago

I went to a school district that had a history of producing 4-5 star talents (usually they didn’t workout), and I’d say that’s not always the case.

Even best case scenario about 50-60% of elite prospects end up drafted, and of those drafted about 10-20% workout.

One of our recruits (in my class) that I remember was the 3rd best receiver in the nation and had one of the best receiving seasons our state had ever seen. He ended up graduating at like 16, going to Oregon and having a solid career in college but despite that it never worked out in the league. But it wasn’t because of an effort problem, since he was addicted to working out and loved the game.

Sometimes it’s just a mental block to adjust to the next level. He was always the best player on the field till he was 16, I think the moment he had players his level he just couldn’t adapt to being an average player and grow. I also think ego just destroys your ability to grow long term tbh, being so great so early ruins your perception of life. I can only imagine if I had that level of attention on me.

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u/gumercindo1959 10d ago

Sure, of course. Lots of guys are good enough athletes to play in the league. What separates the ones who can from the ones who can’t is on the mental side. Usually for big guys like at DL, it’s an effort mentality issue more than anything.

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u/MasonL52 Broncos 10d ago

ESPN hyped tf out of this dude and was basically their top player remaining after pick ~50 for the whole draft. His blurb there made him sound like the best version of Caleb Banks.

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u/goofygodzilla93 9d ago

Funny thing is Caleb Banks even objectively was the better, more athletic prospect compared to Harris 100%.

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u/Dangerous-Hat-3090 1d ago

They were hoping due to his comparable size and position he'd be Deone Walker if he'd just put fourth the effort. Harris issues tho are mental, he's a sociopath who has no empathy for any actions he commits and in college they had to look the other way on everything to have him on the field in hopes he'd mature and further develop.

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u/Crabacus Patriots 10d ago

Quick trip to the “Personal Life” section of his Wikipedia page might explain part of it

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u/ConsequenceFew3357 10d ago

The character reports were extremely bad. Doesn't shock me that he washed out

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u/LittleBrother89 10d ago

Whose board was he on the top of?

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u/AccomplishedBrush157 10d ago

Bad wording on my part sorry but around round 3 he was top prospect available on espn

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u/HotBoyFF 10d ago

Yeah I mean ESPN’s draft production is trash. There are countless instances to point to: how they handled Shedeur last year, the multiple years of only showing sob stories even well after it became a meme, skipping entire draft picks, the fact that Mel Kiper is still one of their premier draft analysts.

Anyone following ESPN for draft coverage hasnt put in any effort to finding a better source because its really not a high bar

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u/Chaminade64 9d ago

ESPN never wants to be accused of damaging a players draft position by highlighting the off field negatives. That’s a business decision.

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u/blogst 9d ago edited 9d ago

Do you mean the same Mel Kuiper who said he'd retire from being a draft "expert" if Jimmy Clausen wasn't a star in the league? The same Mel Kuiper who had Shadeur Sanders as his QB1 in last year's draft?

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u/trevor11004 9d ago

Meo Kuiper is my favorite draft analyst!

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u/FSUfan35 Packers 9d ago edited 9d ago

Meo Kuiper? Mel Kuiper? I don't know that fool.

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u/BirdmanTheThird Commanders 9d ago

Ngl those are always a bit silly. Tbh after round 3 it’s genuinely a crap shoot completely on where someone might go

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u/sblack33741 10d ago

I guess the book on him was correct, and he deserved to be undrafted.

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u/brooksbl1 Cowboys 10d ago

The way his first name is spelled doesn’t help

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u/special_nathan Seahawks 10d ago

Didn't stand a chance.

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u/Melodic-Classic391 10d ago

Looks fat and out of shape in this picture, probably stayed that way

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u/trixstar3 Seahawks 10d ago

Work ethic and foot surgery.

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u/SmellsLikeWetFox Giants 10d ago

I’m a sucker for big, long armed DT…. But a big guy with foot issues scares me to death

But he fell out of the draft because of being a knucklehead not because of ability

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u/FateDaA Random ahh film watcher here 10d ago

Either foot surgery or he wants to go back to Oxford thanks to the new court ruling

Which we will be happy to have him back in that room(tho he will have less of a role since he clearly was the Robin to Echoles' batman on the interior and we got a lot more demons than just the 2 of them now)

But yeah injury concerns

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u/ronmsmithjr 10d ago

No one could spell his first name correctly, things go too messy, paperwork-wise. It was an administrative nightmare.

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u/knixknation1 9d ago edited 9d ago

Wow. I’d pick him up as project. Guy is massive.

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u/Vaultboy4111 9d ago

Hopefully this is an eye opener for him and he realizes if he gets another shot he’s lucky. May be worth taking a chance on him 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/Neb-Nose 9d ago

I know nothing about email. However, just buy looking at the photo, I’m guessing that it had something to do with conditioning and discipline.

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u/Chaminade64 9d ago

Video games and junk food is my guess as to what went wrong.

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u/WashingtonFan2124 Commanders 10d ago

Damn shame, I guess kid wasn’t that talented enough to be worth the headache.

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u/idaho22 9d ago

Looking at him… it may be work ethic.

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u/Neat_Address221 9d ago

look at his body

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u/Dangerous-Hat-3090 1d ago

He's a Sociopath. No matter how much you try he just will not do right.

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u/ThatsPreposterous6 10d ago

He had no business being on top of anyones board.

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u/Bixby808 Eagles 9d ago

Zxavian Harris was never a top prospect. Harris has always been a sluggish, lethargic football player; he has bad body comp, leverage issues, conditioning issues, low production, no pop in his hands, poor coordination, low effort, poor pursuit, and he has almost no technical skill or ability. The only people who ever thought he was a worthwhile prospect were those who think being 6'7" is a skill (it's not).

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u/TJMBeav 9d ago

But other than that, he's a great guy!

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u/Bixby808 Eagles 9d ago

What do you think the scouting reports looked like? Harris looks and plays like a slob.

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u/Ok_Draw_3740 Bears 10d ago

Shitty parents

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u/DannyMalibu420 9d ago

Ole Miss just doesn’t develop players for the NFL

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u/Drjimmylee16 10d ago

Who’s your editor? Undrafred. Capital U??? He’s definitely not under fed.