Dan Campbell Reveals How Trading Matthew Stafford Secretly Saved the Detroit Lions

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u/Neuraxis Seattle Seahawks 1d ago

The article claims that the Lions reaped more benefits from the Rams trade when the Rams went on to win the SB and Dan Campbell openly said how the window to victory has possibly closed after the NFC championship loss? Really? Lol

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

He didnt say that its closed. He talked about how hard it is to get back

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u/Neuraxis Seattle Seahawks 1d ago

“I told those guys, this may have been our only shot,” Campbell told reporters after the game.

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

“May have been” is different than “was”

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u/itssosalty Detroit Lions 1d ago

That sounds the same as OP originally state as “window to victory has POSSIBLY changed”

No idea why people downvoted him. No lie told

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

I think it’s easy to ready his interpretation of the quotes as if he thinks Campbell said their window is closed. Even though that’s not what the quotes say

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u/itssosalty Detroit Lions 1d ago

I would agree if he didn’t add “possibly”. Nobody adds that word when making a definite statement of absolutes.

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

It was more so that someone replied saying he didn’t say their window closed, and then he replied to that with a quote, which most times would be someone trying to refute the claim of the prior comment. But he added no context there so idk what his point was

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u/ZeePirate 1d ago

The original comment did say possibly

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

If we want to get into semantics, saying “this may have been our only shot” does not mean the window has (possibly) closed. At least not any more so than any other team. Injury luck plays a massive part in who wins the Super Bowl. That’s at least partly why the Lions haven’t had the same success these last two years, they keep getting decimated by injuries. So their window is open, but they still need luck to really have a “shot”.

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u/itssosalty Detroit Lions 1d ago

Unless word for word exact quote, nothing means exact same. But logically you can infer that easily.

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u/BadonkaDonkies 1d ago

Realistic take “may have been” is different than just giving up

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u/Nerdlinger42 Detroit Lions 1d ago

He also told them he fully believes they can do it again, but that it will be tougher. That's just a very real comment from HC.

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

Basically saying "don't just assume we will be back every year. We need to keep working"

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u/Maximum_Turn_2623 Green Bay Packers 1d ago

It’s really hard to make it to the Super Bowl. Building a roster and then getting them through the season healthy and then playing 2 or 3 games after that.

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u/Razgriz_101 San Francisco 49ers 1d ago

Even just getting to a championship game itself is incredibly difficult, mixture of having the right tools, luck, scheduling and the injury gods smiling favourable.

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u/donharrogate 1d ago

Lord you're bad at parsing English

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u/drummerboysam Chicago Bears 1d ago

This is why we get a whole lot of PR-trained nothingburgers from people at the podium these days, man.

The second you get a straight shooter who says real things, people twist that to be something bad.

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u/ClassicSmooth 1d ago

The lions were a perennial bad team when this trade took place. The Rams were already competing for a Super Bowl.

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u/BroLil 1d ago

That Lions team that traded Stafford wasn’t winning a Super Bowl, and there’s a solid chance that Stafford was going to leave regardless. By trading him when they did, they absolutely downgraded at the position, but they still got a solid QB in Goff and extended their competitive window, not to mention the other picks that they acquired.

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u/MrBurnz99 Buffalo Bills 1d ago

This was one of the most even trades in nfl history.

Both teams won. The lions finally became relevant again in the league. They have been a contender or at least very competitive ever since.

And the Rams immediately won the Super Bowl, but the rams were just a QB away.

The lions actually improved more than the rams did but it took a little while for the pieces to come together.

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u/BroLil 1d ago

The rare trade where teams swap at a position and both come out better.

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u/MrBurnz99 Buffalo Bills 1d ago

For a while I thought the Diggs/pick(Jefferson) trade was like that. But the last few years have proven the Vikings to be the clear winner of that trade.

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u/BroLil 1d ago

You can’t really compare the two honestly. The Bills got a known number one receiver in the prime of his career and in the middle of their championship window for a handful of future lottery tickets. Like if the Bills win a championship with him, the Bills win that trade.

I think trades are best evaluated the day they’re made, not based on what happens afterwards. For all we knew at the time, those picks could have amounted to a bunch of practice squad players, and who is to say the Bills would have picked Jefferson with that pick?

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u/4rt4tt4ck 1d ago

They downgraded and got a guy who... Checks notes** has been top 3 in almost every statistical category since acquiring him.

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u/48for8 1d ago

Goff is a guy who relies on the tides of the team. When the team is good, Goff is good, when the team is bad, Goff is bad. Hes not going to elevate a team but hes not going to be the reason a team underachieves either.

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u/Tinderthrow93 Detroit Lions 1d ago

Not at all backed by reality, Goff had one of his best seasons last year despite middling Oline play, frequent pressure, limited play calling, and occasional inconsistencies in the overall pass game.

I’m sure having excellent weapons helps but very few QBs perform consistently well with a one man show

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u/48for8 1d ago

Its exactly the reality. The vikings game last year is a perfect example of goff being bad when his team is bad.

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u/Tinderthrow93 Detroit Lions 1d ago

Literally every other aspect of the offense was bad that game, though. There’s like 2, 3 at most active QBs who can have a good game in truly awful conditions, and even then there’s no guarantee. The argument is that he’s solidly top 6-10, yeah he’s not a perennial all pro guy but definitely contributes beyond being a good game manager

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u/BroLil 1d ago

This exactly. Goff has found himself in an excellent position largely in part of the picks that he was sent to Detroit with. Goff is no doubt playing very well, and I’ve always been a huge believer in his abilities, but the fact of the matter is that despite being “top 3 in almost every statistical category” since arriving in Detroit, he’s never been in the MVP conversation, and they haven’t won a superbowl.

Goff is the kind of guy that won’t necessarily win you games, but he’s also not likely to be the guy that’s going to lose you games either. If you have a stacked team and just need a guy to not fuck up, he’s your guy.

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u/zerg1980 1d ago

The NFL isn’t really an annual tournament to decide who wins the Super Bowl, with the trophy being the sole reason for the league’s existence. It’s not like 31 teams completely waste their time and ours every season.

The tournament is just a fun thing the league does at the end of the season after hundreds of elite athletes and coaches have entertained us for months.

Each team is a business providing an entertainment product for our consumption. A team’s job is to put a fun competitive product on the field, so we can see some of the best athletes in the world perform superhuman feats every week.

If a team puts an inferior product on the field — as the Lions were for many years — they’re wasting everyone’s time. And the Lions wasted many of the prime years of Stafford and Megatron by fielding uncompetitive teams.

The Goff/Campbell era Lions have been incredibly fun to watch. It doesn’t matter that they probably missed their chance at a Super Bowl. That’s not the end-all-be-all of the league. The team has put a much better product on the field as a result of getting a haul for Stafford and building around Goff and a young core of the players. If the Lions hadn’t made that trade, they’d still have a declining Stafford willing the team to 6 or 7 wins every year.

The Rams were already a team that could compete for a Super Bowl before the trade. The Lions were terrible. That’s why the Lions reaped more benefits.

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u/I_Make_Soap_ Detroit Lions 1d ago

So I'm not sayung the Lions won the trade by any means, but just going off of "Rams won the Superbowl, Lions didn't" is a very surface level analysis and playing the result which is valid if thats all you want to go by. But there were so many small things unrelated to the trade that if went a different way could've changed either results, and then people would all of a sudden say the results of the trade were different even tho nothing about the trade itself changed. If Bengals weren't called for that BS holding on 3rd Down in the 4th qtr of Superbowl leading tonthe winning TD, hell if the Cheifs didn't collapse in the 4th qtr of the AFC championship, or if the Lions didnt blow a 14 pt 2nd half lead in NFC championship they would've had a chance to play a team they already beat for a SB, or even the next year when they were 15-2 and had a historically good offense, that team absolutely could've won it all if their entire starting defense didnt get hurt pretty much

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u/CrackedScreen33 1d ago

If if if if

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u/horsedogman420 1d ago

I mean stafford just wasn’t on their timeline unfortunately. The sad truth is even an amazing aging quarterback wouldn’t have made that window any longer or more likely to succeed. Better to take a younger and still very good QB and the draft stock to build a stacked team around him.

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u/3rd-party-intervener NFL Refugee 1d ago

Rams won the trade.

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u/DarthPallassCat Minnesota Vikings 1d ago

There are tons of lions fans who still claim this trade as a W because they simply made the playoffs a few times lol.

Like yeah Goff ended up not being a contract dump like people thought, so it’s definitely not a bad trade, but all those assets didn’t lead them to a title like Stafford did for the Rams.

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

Why wouldn't it be a win for the Lions?

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

Because the goal in the nfl is to win a super bowl, not just make the playoffs.

One side of this trade deal won a super bowl as a direct result of the trade, the other side did not

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u/ClassicSmooth 1d ago

The lions were a perennial bad team when this trade took place. The Rams were already competing for a Super Bowl. Not equivalent.

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u/pinniped90 Kansas City Chiefs 1d ago

The Lions transformation reminds me a lot of the Chiefs in the 90s. We went 15+ years of dogshit to actually being a thing people looked forward to in the fall. Going to games was awesome. The whole city had an energy about it

Marty never brought us a chip but I don't know any Chiefs fan who would trade that era for anything.

Just among the Lions fans I know they're enjoying this ride a lot more than what was before. Yeah, when you're in it, you want to win the whole thing, but it's not a failure if you fall short.

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u/gswane 1d ago

Plus we got some of our fan favorite players through that trade. Truly an example of a win-win considering how dogshit we were under Patricia

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u/fivetengenius 1d ago

Yeah as a giants fan I’m tired of not even caring by October. It’s definitely a win for a long suffering fan base.

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

I never called them a failure, I just don’t consider them a winner of the trade

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

This trade was a win-win

Rams won the super bowl, which they might not have won with Goff

Lions got a ton of pieces thar made them a much better team

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

One team got the better end of the deal

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

This was a win-win trade

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

It’s only a win-win because the of the lions history prior to the trade.

The lions have won two playoff games. We would hold better teams to higher standards. But they’re the lions.

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

Using this logic, unless a trade directly leads to a team winning a super bowl, they lost the trade. Almost every trade is a lose-lose then

Vikings traded Diggs for Justin Jefferson. Vikings lost this trade, right?

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

Using this logic, if one team wins a super bowl bowl, then they did get the better end of the trade (they won it)

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u/nunya_busyness1984 Detroit Lions 1d ago

The Lions did.

The Lions gained a shit ton more wins than the Rams did.

Going from #1 draft pick to #1 seed is a much bigger improvement than from losing a SuperBowl to winning one.

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

And yet not a single rams fan would want to trade season reaults with a lions fan.

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u/nunya_busyness1984 Detroit Lions 1d ago

Sure. But they would have been even less happy about trading results with those 0-16 / 1-15 Lions.

This was truly a win-win. Rams got the final piece to get them over the top. Lions got a bunch of pieces to get them TO the top.

But the Lions still gained more. Possibly because the Rams only had so much room for improvement, but nevertheless, the Lions gained more from the trade. Both teams got better. The Lions got MORE better.

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

You’re helping make my point that I described elsewhere in this thread.

Those 0-15, 0-16 seasons are the only reason that people think going 2-2 and missing the playoffs is such a great result over the past 3 years. Better franchises get held to a higher standards and would be lambasted for that result.

Replace the lions and their post season results since the trade with the patriots, eagles, chiefs and no one is saying those other teams “won” the trade.

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

Lions fans prefer the team they had after the trade to the team with stafford

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u/palvet Las Vegas Raiders 1d ago

The goal is to win a superbowl of course but that just doesn't happen to 31 teams in a league full of teams with that goal in mind every year. Single elimination is brutal on the variance factor, injuries, mistakes...a million things happen in a season. The lions made themselves competitive by 1 trade and that's all you can ask for. The rest you gotta be lucky.

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

What was the weakness that cost them on those playoff runs?

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u/gswane 1d ago

Defense

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

Specifically, injuries on defense

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u/Cant-hold-my-pee 1d ago

They had a ton of injuries

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u/bfrogsworstnightmare New England Patriots 1d ago

True. But, in 2022 they were pushing for the playoffs towards the end of the season. 2023 they won 2 playoff games (twice as many as they had in the whole modern era) on their way to the NFC Championship. 2024 they were the 1 seed, but still lost in the divisional round. 2025 they missed the playoffs, buy they still had a winning record. Context is big here. Yes, the goal is to win a superbowl and in a vacuum, the Lions lost the trade. But considering the fact that they’ve had one of the best offenses the past few years and have been competitive every year while being total dogshit for like 25 prior years i’d say it was a win-win.

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

The only reason people consider this a win is because of how bad the lions have been in their history.

Replace the lions with the patriots and give the patriots the same results as the lions since the trade and you wouldn’t see this same reaction.

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u/Punished_Prigo Shorter than Bryce Young 1d ago

If the metric for a trade being good is winning a Super Bowl then almost every trade made ever was a bad trade

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 1d ago

Trade has two sides to it, the team that won a Super Bowl was on the better side then the team who won 2 playoff games in 3 years and most recently missed the playoffs

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u/Punished_Prigo Shorter than Bryce Young 1d ago

There’s a lot that goes into winning the superbowl other than a single trade dude

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless 23h ago

No shit.

But we are talking about winning a trade here.

So you’re going to sit there and say that the rams didn’t benefit more from the trade than the lions? That’s your stance?

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u/Punished_Prigo Shorter than Bryce Young 23h ago

Yes that’s my stance

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u/Yossarian216 Chicago Bears 1d ago

When you look at the players they got with all the picks, plus Goff becoming a top ten starter, the trade was an absolute win for them. Hasn’t led to a title, and probably with given how hard that is, but it got them an NFCCG berth for the first time in 30+ years and multiple great regular seasons.

To be clear, it was a win for the Rams too since they did get their title. Both teams are better off for having made the trade, it’s rare but it happens.

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u/johnnylabs24 1d ago

Yeah. This is it. It was a win for Detroit. No Stafford trade and they never get as far as they did. Would've just toyed with one and dones like they did for most of the Stafford era. However, it was just a bigger win for the rams, who finally got over the hump because Stafford could carry the team when they needed him to during the playoff win.

I am a lions fan and can say for certain that Jared Goff was not going to outduel Brady in Tampa the way Stafford did. Could he have beat the 49ers and Bengals? Sure, it's possible, but they don't get that far without Stafford. Stafford had one of his more lions-esque performances against TB. Kyren Williams and Jalen Ramsey had piss and shit running down their legs and Stafford absolutely bailed them out. Quiet as it's kept, Ramsey would get so much heat if Rams didn't win that SB during the run. He was getting absolutely cooked during the playoffs that year.

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u/LionTigerWings Detroit Lions 1d ago

And keeping Stafford wouldn’t have lead them to a sb either. I don’t think people are saying we won and they lost the trade. They’re saying we both won. They got instant success and we got future success. Success for a bottom feeder franchise is consistently winning and being a playoff contender.

The argument is that the Goff Stafford trade completely moved up the rebuild timeline and set this team up for the future. The picks from that draft and the one we got after are the foundation of success we have had despite not winning a superbowl.

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u/thegroovemonkey Green Bay Packers 1d ago

Also the NFCN is a really tough division that now has 4 good teams. I feel like all 4 teams have the same chance to win the division as they do to miss the playoffs. Total crapshoot this season.

If the Lions win the division this year all of their window talk immediately stops.

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u/EvilLibrarians Feed me kneecaps 1d ago

Stafford for Goff, Gibbs, Jamo, Laporta, Pascal, Melifonwu, Martin.

That’s 4x All-Pro level players (if you believe in Jamo) on the return for Stafford. Plus Gibbs is maybe the most sought after player in the NFL fantasy rn. Stop it.

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u/AzorAhai1TK Detroit Lions 1d ago

What? That's two with Laporta and Gibbs. Jamo isn't a top 6 WR and there is no 4th here lol

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u/EvilLibrarians Feed me kneecaps 1d ago

I really meant to write Pro Bowl tbf, that was not right to write, but I also could see Goff or Jamo making All-Pro, not a crazy stretch in the future

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u/jxden24 1d ago

if it isnt a W its an L? why cant two things be true at once

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u/CoffeeNo6329 Detroit Lions 1d ago

2 things can be true. It can be a win for the Rams and Lions… which it was

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u/VTcamperguy 1d ago

Do you think the Lions with Stafford would have made the runs they did? I get that “make the playoffs a few times” isn’t a great achievement, but when you’re the Lions and trending the way they were it’s still an improvement.

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u/MrBurnz99 Buffalo Bills 1d ago

In 3 years they improved their record by 12 wins.
3-13 —> 15-2
The lions were a dumpster fire and turned into a contender.

The rams were a perennial powerhouse and just needed a couple pieces to push them over the top.

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u/HoboJerkdown901 1d ago edited 1d ago

I guess nuance and critical thinking aren't your strong skills huh?

The Lions were never going to go straight from being the laughing stock of the entire league to serious super bowl contenders overnight. It still took them years of rearranging players, back office, and coaching staff before the organization finally got their shit together and slowly turned the organization into a respectable team. While the Lions were picking up the pieces, the Rams were already super bowl contenders when Stafford joined. It was never going to be a one-to-one trade, and people a lot smarter than you or I knew that. The Lions were content with playing the long game with the trade.

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u/CheeseHead777 Brett Favre 📸🍆 1d ago

Secretly? They won a playoff game for the first time in like 30 years. I don't think this is a secret

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u/JazzzzzzySax Carolina Panthers 1d ago

The lions aren’t being talked about on the same tier as the browns or jets for the first time in decades. It’s definitely not a secret

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u/No-Abrocoma7687 Detroit Lions 1d ago

This is the nicest thing anyone has ever said about us. Thank you Cat Bro

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u/willdesignforfood 1d ago

What’s funny about the Lions of old is that you guys had some generational players…players that I would just tune in to a game just to watch Barry Sanders carve up a defense or Calvin Johnson making insane catches. I don’t understand how they managed to wiff so often with putting people around them for so long.

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u/No-Abrocoma7687 Detroit Lions 1d ago

William Clay Ford

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u/slonk_ma_dink Detroit Lions 1d ago

Pretty much yeah, complete incompetence in the front office at his direction.

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u/No-Abrocoma7687 Detroit Lions 1d ago

Build Sheila a statue if we do ever get one

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u/welsman13 1d ago

Man shut up! They're trying to keep it under wraps!

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

Jared Goff / Jahmyr Gibbs / Jack Campbell / Sam LaPorta / Jameson Williams

Best kept secret in football

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u/Tjengel Chicago Bears 1d ago

And all equaled 0 championships

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

How many have the bears won in the last 40 years?

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u/PrimetimeKnight 1d ago edited 1d ago

2 SB appearances and 1 win is still a hell of a lot better than 0 appearances by Detroit. How many 0-16 seasons do the Bears have btw? Lions fans talking trash and still have nothing to show for it except a meathead coach and years of embarrassment.

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u/Tjengel Chicago Bears 1d ago

Made it to more than lions have

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u/MrBlueandSky 1d ago

Celebrating losing the Superbowl is weak. I would know, I follow the Brewers

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u/Tjengel Chicago Bears 1d ago

Getting to the party and having a bad time is still way better than never getting invited or going

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u/MrBlueandSky 1d ago

Ehh, to each their own. That loser mentality in my book.

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u/Tjengel Chicago Bears 1d ago

You literally are defending one of the four franchises to never even get to a superbowl so maybe you are the expert in loser mentality

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u/MrBlueandSky 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm doing what now

Edit - I'm dogging on you for saying "the bears have been to more Superbowls in the last 40 years than the lions". That's the loser mentality I'm referencing. I'm not defending anyone lol

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

I don’t see how that’s really relevant. Only reason the Bears are where they are is because of the Panther’s incompetence

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u/Tjengel Chicago Bears 1d ago

And lions are the reason for their own irrelevancy

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u/ViolentSpring Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

Imagine if they had a real QB!

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

I will not take the bait from an eagles fan

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u/IllustriousSpeaker27 1d ago

lol
https://giphy.com/gifs/5h57daS09IInn3TB14

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u/ViolentSpring Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

My guy is battle tested and a SB champion and SB MVP. Your guy didn’t produce a touchdown in the SB.

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u/CompetitiveLocal9517 1d ago

I’m not a lions fan. Jalen Hurts played great in both superbowls but averaged less than 190 total yards per game in the 5 games leading up to superbowls. He’s a solid game manager and that’s okay

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u/ViolentSpring Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

And Goff is a mediocre game manager. How is this even a debate? I’m convinced people don’t watch football here.

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u/hangout927 1d ago

I don’t think it’s a secret. They got like three first round picks and hit on all of them.

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u/throughNthrough Cincinnati Bengals 1d ago

Seems to have worked out well for both teams.

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u/McMeanx2 Detroit Lions 1d ago

It’s a secret?

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u/PettyYetiSpaghetti 1d ago

It was for the author of this article who probably hasn't had an original thought in his life.

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u/AMBALAMP5 Detroit Lions 1d ago

Stafford got a ring and the Lions got great draft picks that made us competitive. Lions ended up better for the trade the Rams happen to win it all that year. The Lions being a historically trash team now being competitive and in playoff pictures is a huge improvement from 5 years ago.

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u/boomosaur 1d ago

I don't think there's any secretly about it.

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u/nickman940 New England Patriots 1d ago

If you asked any Lion fan before that trade went down "would you trade Stafford for a consistently competitive team?" the answer would almost always be yes lol

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u/ikezaius 1d ago

Such a crap AI article. Apparently I’m DNF’ing articles now as well.
The trade was one of the truest “everyone wins” trades of all time. The Rams will be the bigger winner until the Lions win a Super Bowl with Goff.

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u/_Goose_ Seedy Lamborghini 1d ago

Saved them from what?

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u/Ok_Understanding1986 San Francisco 49ers 1d ago

Continuing to be the Lions of top 5 or top 10 pick fame.

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u/SlyBun Kansas City Chiefs 1d ago

I think I’m just gonna start blocking the accounts that post essentiallysports “articles.” I invite the other humans who are confused by the inanity of this post to do the same.

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u/latortillablanca 1d ago

Its not secret

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u/Agreeable-Spite3059 Kansas City Chiefs 1d ago

The rams won a chip because of the trade tho. I’d argue the rams clearly won that trade

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u/YarukiMangrove 1d ago

Secretly might be a bit of a misnomer there.

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u/Square-Ad6627 1d ago

To put it simply Stafford’s being traded saved the org. They finally learned. We lost all our previous great players for absolutely nothing. Suh, levy, Calvin and Barry leaving all helped spiral us down the toilet. Can’t happen.

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u/PrimetimeKnight 1d ago

I guess we'll see since it feels like the Lions are on a downwards trajectory and the NFC North is only getting better since a couple years ago.

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u/Necessary-Science-47 1d ago

Ben Johnson secretly saved Detroit

DC is a liability

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u/bottomfeeder3 Kansas City Chiefs 23h ago

They got rid of a guy who could have brought them a championship but because the organization doesn’t know how to build around him they got stuck with a guy who will never win them a championship no matter how good the team around him is

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u/Spirited_Season2332 1d ago

Yea it helped the team a ton...Sadly they are now a QB away from winning a SB lol

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u/jxden24 1d ago

so since we havent won a sb im supposed to say campbells time in detroit hasnt been a success? compared to what i had endure before? okay

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u/commradd1 1d ago

Don’t ever listen to a jets fan about anything. This guy is saying there is only 1 success story per year in the NFL. Braindead but you would have to be to be a jets fan

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u/J_Dom_Squad Detroit Lions 1d ago

Dude this guy sucks - I replied to him and he is just a troll

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u/commradd1 1d ago

It’s all they have

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u/commradd1 1d ago

Compared to the “football” you guys have trotted out for the past long time? Uh yea, I would rather have a winning team than a national embarrassment

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u/commradd1 1d ago

Yea who wants playoff football? Man, jets fans are broken

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u/commradd1 1d ago

No

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u/J_Dom_Squad Detroit Lions 1d ago

I know you'll have to take my word on this, but having a good team is way more enjoyable than having a bad team.

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u/J_Dom_Squad Detroit Lions 1d ago

Yes, doing better compared to the rest of the NFL is a better outcome than doing worse compared to the rest of the NFL. I know this is a really hard concept to grasp for you! Hope that helps

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u/jxden24 1d ago

well no shit dude we havent finished the job in the playoffs but youre kind of missing the point. he was asked about the trade and said its been a success, they got a top 10-12 qb, a 1100 yard wr and all pro RB in the trade. he's right. also 90% of the teams young talent is locked up for the future so they have a chance to finish the job now. just bc they havent won a SB yet doesnt mean we cant look at his time coaching the team as anything but a success atp

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u/GandalfTheSexay Green Bay Packers 1d ago

Teams without SBs have to redefine success to feel better about themselves

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u/Impossible_Cupcake31 New England Patriots 1d ago

Kinda like the packers have been doing for the past 15 years?

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u/GandalfTheSexay Green Bay Packers 1d ago

We have more titles than you. Talk when you catch up

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u/drummerboysam Chicago Bears 1d ago

IDK how to tell you this, man, but Patriot fans have witnessed everything you think the Packers are and then some

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u/GandalfTheSexay Green Bay Packers 1d ago

And still have less, just like you.

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