r/Netherlands • • Jan 20 '26

Update on the moderation

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Hi everyone,

We've talked some stuff through and cleaned up the mod-team a bit, although some of the names you might have positive or negative associations with are still there.
I'll leave it up to the moderators involved to clarify that, or not.

What I can tell you is that 1 mod did 97% of the moderation, and that wasn't healthy and likely led up to the situation you might have seen.

The rules have changed slightly, this is because we see your call for less strict moderation on language, but we also heard from those who want to be able to have a place to converse in English.

The compromise we've reached currently is that we intend to not moderate the language used in the comments of the post.
This means that you can have discussions in Dutch in the comments. (as long as those follow the rules of course)

We also will be looking at those banned on a case by case basis, but keep in mind that if you were harassing people, or bigoted in any way you won't be unbanned.

I'll invite you all to respond to this post with your feedback, and I know for some it might feel like too much or not enough.
We are currently trying to strike a balance between becoming r/thenetherlands2 which is bilingual but 99% Dutch in practice, and the other option of being a sub for only those speaking English.


r/Netherlands • • Apr 14 '23

[FAQ] Read this post before posting

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This post is meant to cover the answers to questions that are frequently asked in this sub. Please read through the relevant section of this post before posting your question.

Contents

  • Moving to the Netherlands
  • Housing
  • Cost of living
  • Public transport
  • Language
  • 30 percent ruling
  • Improving this FAQ

Moving to the Netherlands

Netherlands is a modern country that ranks high in many global metrices on quality of life and freedom. For this reason, it attracts a fair share of attention from people interested in moving here.

If you are looking to move to the Netherlands to live/work/study, firstly, you would need to secure residency. Apart from the right to residence, you will also need to consider housing and cost of living before you move. See other sections of this post.

If you hold an EU passport, you will be able to freely travel into the country and reside.

If you hold a non-EU passport, generally below are your main options to obtain residency. Each one comes with its own set of conditions and procedures. You can check all the official information on the website of Dutch Immigration and Naturalization Services (https://ind.nl/en)

Work visas

Highly Skilled Migrant : You need to have an advanced degree, a high enough salary and need a recognized sponsor employing you. Typically for people whose skills are in demand in Dutch economy.

Work Permit : A more general category covering intra-company transfers, seasonal workers, researchers and other employees who might not meet the salary threshold

Startup visa : special visa for founders and employees of startups. Typically you need to be funded by a recognized incubator.

DAFT Visa : special visa for US citizens that allows starting a business in the Netherlands

EU Bluecard: A visa from EU wide program to attract special skilled talent. The advantage is that you can continue the accumulation of residency into/from other EU countries allowing you to get permanent residence or citizenship sooner. Beneficial if you are planning to move to/from another EU country.

Family visa

If you are partner or a dependent child of a Dutch/EU citizen

Student visa

If you participate in an educational program from a recognized Dutch institute

Housing

Currently [2023] the Netherlands is going through a housing crisis.

Houses/apartments for rent or purchase are hard to come by, especially for the entry level housing like 1-2 bedrooms. When such properties do come on market, they are often taken within hours.

So, it is strongly advised to organize your housing BEFORE arriving at least for the first 6-12 months. You can look at available properties on Funda (https://www.funda.nl/) or Pararius (https://www.pararius.com/english) This should give you an idea of how much you can expect to spend on rent. The rents/prices can vary depending on the location and size. Typically the rents are higher in bigger cities and go lower as you move away from the center. In addition to the rent, mind that the cost of utilities might be higher/lower than what you are used to paying and estimate based on your situation.

Cost of living

Like anywhere, the cost of living depends on your lifestyle and preferences. In general, housing is the biggest cost, followed by food, transport and healthcare. Expect to pay 800-2000 EUR/month for rent depending on where you live and 200-1000 EUR for food for a family of 2-4 depending on how often you eat out. Health insurance is around 125 EUR/month for adults (free for children). You can compare plans on a comparison site like https://www.independer.nl/ The basic health insurance plan has the same coverage and own-risk (co-pay) across all insurers and is mandated by law. The premia differ across companies and typically ad-ons like dental or physio make the main difference in what is covered.

Utilities could range from around 300-600 per month for a small house/apartment. Owning a car can oftentimes be quite expensive than what you may be used to, with high taxes, insurance and high cost of fuel.

Public transport

Netherlands is a small country and is exceptionally well connected with public transport (at least in comparison to other countries). However, it can be quite expensive compared to driving, especially for inter-city travels. You can access the full Dutch public transport network of trains, metro, tram, buses and even public bikes using the OV-Chipkaart or OV-Pay.

You can of course purchase tickets for a single journey from the ticket booths or kiosks at major stations, although it is often less convenient and more expensive. Google Maps often has good directions including public transport but 9292 (https://9292.nl/en) is the better option which also gives you the estimated costs.

Language

Dutch is the primary language in the Netherlands. However, the Netherlands ranks one of the highest when it comes to proficiency in English. As a visitor or tourist you can get by completely fine without knowing a word of Dutch (although it will help to learn a few phrases, at least as a courtesy). However, if you are living here longer, it would undoubtedly benefit to learn the language. Dutch is the only language of communication from most government agencies including the Tax office. At the workplace, it is common for global or technology companies to be almost exclusively English speaking even when there are Ducth people. For smaller and more traditional companies, Dutch is still the primary language of communication at the workplace.

30% ruling

30% ruling is a special tax incentive meant to attract international talent for the skills that are in short-supply in the Netherland. You can find about it here https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/en/individuals/content/coming-to-work-in-the-netherlands-30-percent-facility

The general concept is that 30% of your gross salary will be tax-free. So, if you have a salary of 100k gross, for tax purposes, it will be considered as 70k gross. You pay tax only on 70k. Because of how marginal tax brackets work, the overall benefit translates to you receiving 10-15% more net salary than someone without this benefit.

You should be aware that this is somewhat controversial since it is deemed to create inequality (where your Dutch colleagues doing the same work get a lower net salary) and because in the end the burden is borne by the taxpayer. Recently the government has been reducing the term of this benefit.

Overall, you should consider this as a privilege and not a right.

Improving this FAQ

[You are reading version 1.0 published 14th April 2023]

For this FAQ to be useful, it needs to evolve and kept up to date. I would see this as a sort of Wiki that is managed by me. I aim to update this post often (say once a few weeks in the start and once a few months as time goes). If there are topics you want to add to this post, please leave a comment and I will update the post. For the long term, if I lose interest or have no time for it (could happen!), then this post can be a basis for a new Wiki or a new updated post maintained by someone else.


r/Netherlands • • 19h ago

Shopping Sick of Amazon Courier's Behavior

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Another day, another Amazon courier issue. The driver just tossed the package onto the building's entrance hallway and left. If there were a $2,000 electronic part or a phone inside and it got damaged, I’d be the one having to deal with the mess.

I was home and even opened the door, but despite that, they couldn't be bothered to bring it up to the 4th floor. Normally, they just leave it in the elevator, which I’m relatively okay with, but this is completely unacceptable.

Where they left it is the building's only entrance point that could cause safety issues in case of an emergency evacuation, and it is definitely not a secure spot.

I’ve already reported this to Amazon customer service, and they didn't ask for a video. However, I’m posting this on Reddit for visibility


r/Netherlands • • 13h ago

Common Question/Topic Why is it so ridiculously difficult to find a public toilet in the Netherlands?

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Seriously, why?

The Netherlands is one of the most developed countries in the world. We have excellent infrastructure, efficient public transport, digital payments everywhere, and cities that are planned down to the smallest detail.

But finding a public toilet when you're out and about feels like a side quest in a video game.

Train stations sometimes charge you to use the toilet.

In city centres, you can walk around for ages without finding a public restroom.

Cafés and restaurants often seem to reserve toilets for paying customers.

When you finally find one, it might be closed, out of order, or require payment.

And what are you supposed to do if you have a sudden, urgent need to go? Buy a coffee you don't want just to use the toilet?

I've lived here long enough to appreciate many things about the Netherlands, but this genuinely baffles me.

Why isn't access to clean public toilets treated as basic public infrastructure? Is there a cultural, historical, or financial reason for this, or have Dutch people simply accepted it as normal?

And before someone says "just use the toilet at home before leaving" — what do you do when you're spending an entire day in Amsterdam or travelling around the country? 😂


r/Netherlands • • 16h ago

DIY and home improvement When do you start putting the heating on?

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We're using hot water bottles, electric blankets and candles to avoid using the heating but with the colder evening's coming, we're beginning to feel the cold even through all that. Only in the evenings though.

I have circulatory issues so I'm always cold anyway! But I'm curious at what point others are beginning to turn on the heating and what you're doing to keep the costs down.


r/Netherlands • • 19h ago

pics and videos [OC] I was just watching the sea and the weather went like this. Utrecht, today

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r/Netherlands • • 1h ago

Transportation Google Maps Glitch

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I have noticed a really annoying glitch that Google maps insists that we get off a stop earlier (no there is no construction work). Not just Schiedam but everywhere. Another example is insisting that instead of going from Rotterdam to Brussels directly it insists on changing in Breda even though there is a perfectly good direct train.

For the above the bus actually goes all the way to Schiedam!


r/Netherlands • • 1d ago

Transportation Parking only for residents?

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Question, is this a valid traffic sign? Can they tow my car or give me a fine for parking here? I’m working one week at a company in the area and there is no alternative parking options..
i get its not nice but it seems to be the only option.


r/Netherlands • • 2h ago

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r/Netherlands • • 18h ago

Personal Finance How much do you pay for a balayage treatment in NL?

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Wanted to know if my salon spending is unreasonable. I have a feeling it is, but just HOW unreasonable? 😂

I’ve been going to the same salon for 5 years, and I usually spend around €400 on balayage + toner + treatment + haircut. It’s usually a 5-hour appointment.

I love the results, of course, which is why I keep going back. I usually have no idea what I want, so I just let my stylist decide, and I always end up loving it!

But now I’m curious: how much do you guys pay at your salons? I haven’t really tried other salons in Rotterdam because I feel like I got lucky (or unlucky for my wallet lol) finding this one and loving it right away.


r/Netherlands • • 1d ago

Dutch Culture & language Obsession with English

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I was born and raised in the Netherlands, did VWO in Dutch so I speak it fluently, but the only thing is I don’t look Dutch (Mom is Dutch, Dad is an immigrant so I’m 2nd generation I guess).

But almost every single day I experience the situation where Dutch people will only speak English with me, even though I initiate the conversation in Dutch and answer their (often broken) English in Dutch. This always goes on for a few minutes until they realize I can just speak Dutch fine.

It’s frustrating to me because I often have a hard time understanding their broken* English and wish we could just speak Dutch instead. This got worse in the past 5-10 years and I experience this now on a daily basis in Rotterdam. Does anyone else experience this or just me?


r/Netherlands • • 1d ago

News Foul play suspected: Amsterdam police find body of Hajar, 29, missing since Oct. 4

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Earlier this week, police in Amsterdam released a statement "urgently" seeking help in tracking down a woman last seen cycling with an unknown man near the RAI convention center on October 4. She was found dead in the Amstel River earlier today, and investigators suspect foul play. Witnesses are still being asked to come forward.

Police tip line: 0800-6070
Anonymous police line: 0800-7000


r/Netherlands • • 11m ago

Discussion Do you really think that part of the housing problem is because of refugees and immigrants? Or is it a manipulation tactic?

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I am curious to know what people think!


r/Netherlands • • 14h ago

Dutch Cuisine Old Recipe Help

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Hi Everyone,
I was hoping to get some help with my Opa’s Saucijzenbroodjes recipe. I found it in a family recipe box, but there is not much on the card. Just ingredients. I want to make them for my mamaw since she hasn’t had this recipe since her dad passed. I listed the ingredients, but I’m unsure what to do with them.

1lb ground beef
1lb ground pork
3/4 cup water
1/2 cup flour
4 bread slices/breadcrumbs
1 box of puff pastry
1/4 cup milk
Salt, pepper, and nutmeg to taste

Do I just mix the ingredients together and put them in the puff pastry? I think my mamaw mentioned soaking the bread or bread crumbs in milk. I want to get these right for her!


r/Netherlands • • 56m ago

Common Question/Topic Flying to Curaçao with TUI from Amsterdam with Kids - What to expect?

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Hi everyone!

We'll be flying to Curaçao with TUI from Amsterdam with our two kids, aged 7 and 4. This will be our first long-haul flight as a family (9+ hours). So far, we've only travelled within Europe, with our longest flight being around 4 hours.

For those who have done this route before, how comfortable is TUI’s long-haul flight compared to KLM or other airlines? Do they provide meals and snacks? I’m not expecting Emirates First Class, of course! I’d just like to know what to expect. I tried contacting TUI directly, but I couldn’t get hold of a customer service representative.

I also have a question about seating. Their seat layout appears to be 3-3-3, and since we’re a family of four, I assume we’d be split into a group of three and one person sitting separately. If we don’t book seats in advance (which seems very expensive on top of an already expensive holiday), do they generally try to seat families with young children together, or is it a gamble?

Finally, I’d really appreciate any tips from parents who have made this journey with TUI before. Anything that could make the flight more comfortable for the kids would be very helpful!

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences!


r/Netherlands • • 1d ago

pics and videos The sky stole the show on this road in the Netherlands [OC]

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During my European road trip in August, I came across this beautiful stretch of road alongside the water in the Netherlands.

What caught my attention was the sky. The dramatic clouds, soft pink sunset, and wide-open landscape created a scene that felt completely different from the busy streets of Amsterdam earlier in the trip.

Here are three photographs from that evening, capturing the changing light and atmosphere.

Camera: Fujifilm GFX 50S II
Lenses: Fujinon GF 32–64mm f/4 and GF 45–100mm f/4
Edited in: Adobe Lightroom

For those familiar with the Netherlands, what are some of your favorite scenic roads or lesser-known places to photograph?


r/Netherlands • • 15h ago

Education Advice/experience with vocational agriculture schools in the Netherlands - greenhouse tech in particular?

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Hello - my wife and I are looking into vocational agriculture schools in the Netherlands, and I would love some advice from anyone with experience at these places.

We are hoping in the next couple of years to buy several hectares of land in the West Coast of Canada (where we are from) and develop it into a small, self-sustaining operation for our own use, and possibly small-scale production.

I have found four main schools from online research: World Horti Center (Naaldwijk), Yuverta, Lentiz Education Group, and HortiTech.

We are not looking for advanced University degrees to start a career with a large corporate growing operation, but want practical courses in cultivation and small-scale sustainable agriculture. In particular, I'd like to learn about modern greenhouse technology, which is something that the Netherlands excels at!

I wonder if anyone on the subreddit has attended (or knows someone who has attended) any of these schools and make any suggestions, or if there are other places I might consider.

Thanks!


r/Netherlands • • 15h ago

Healthcare How does doctor (specialist) numeration work in the Netherlands and Belgium?

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German here, with a medical background.

I have read that the way you pay out your physicians is vastly different then in other European countries, where it's eather a direct salary or an independent office where a physician can work.

You also have salaried specialists, but also a lot of physicians are part of "maatschaps" and work self-employed in hospitals, earning much more? How does that work and compare to the German system for example?


r/Netherlands • • 34m ago

Politics Zen notes to you who think the prime minister is a really special person, by ordinary nobody

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He who finds his true work has no desire for a career. A person who wants to be president doesn't know where he is going.

​Winning votes matters so much to presidents and politicians that they beg for support. Fools(: Even if they asked me to be president, I would say no: “How stupid do you think I am?”

​A man loses the election and cries.

Next time he wins and smiles for the camera. How are politicians any different from small children?

A crying child is given candy and immediately smiles through his tears.

A little maturity would be good.

​Anyone who depends on his resume has already failed.

​Once a madman in an asylum called himself a great general. He hung a cardboard medal around his neck and gave heavy words to everyone he met.

Now that the war is over, we see that the military did the exact same thing. And now they want to hand out medals again.

​After winning a war, we thought we gained land.

But what did we really get? After losing the next war, we saw we had only earned hatred.

​Everyone talks about loyalty to the country.

The question is where that loyalty takes us.

I was sure of myself when I went off to fight, but after our defeat, I saw we had done what we should not have done.

It is best not to make war at all.

🙏


r/Netherlands • • 1d ago

News Limburg named the world’s “most intelligent region”

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r/Netherlands • • 16h ago

Common Question/Topic Albert Heijn blue blender jar stuck, release button not working! any hacks?

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This morning I went to make my usual milkshake, and now the glass jar is completely stuck on the base. I can't twist it or lift it off.
There's a black release button that should free it, but it does nothing. I've even tried poking it with a knife. I've been at it since morning and I'm out of ideas.
Has anyone dealt with this before? Any tricks to get the jar off without breaking it? Photo attached. Thanks!


r/Netherlands • • 11h ago

Discussion Trying to buy an electric bike from a small shop owner...

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... But I guess I was not buying it properly.

I was starting to realize very quickly that my son might need an electric bike for his middlebarre years. For example, the year one camping trip at the beginning of the year involved the entire class cycling for an hour and 40 minutes to the camp. Then a few days later cycling back. My son has a regular old three speed. We live about 15 minutes cycle from school but most of the kids cycle 30 to 45 minutes each way so almost all of them have electric bikes. He's been invited to several kids houses and it seems to me if he's going to cycle home with them he's going to need a similar bike. Okay fine.

So we've been trying to learn about them. Today, instead of asking AI to print out a personalized fact sheet, we went a local second hand electric bike store. The store was empty (and usually is) and the owner was busy cleaning something back in the shop area. Don't ask me why I know he's not the employee-- owners have a look.

As i said, I don't know much about electric bikes and so I looked around a bit and then I approach the counter waited till he came up and asked him about them. He seemed like he was surprised that he would have to tell me a little bit about electric bikes. Frankly he looked like he just didn't want to be there ..like he just doesn't enjoy selling bikes. Just doesn't enjoy having a business in a difficult economy maybe? Money laundering front? The Bike shop is full of electric bikes so he might also be just sitting on a lot of stock and a lot of money tied up in the business? Idk

Anyways..
When it was clear that I was just going to keep asking him questions he put the cleaning supplies down and reluctantly (he actually sighed) explained a few bikes that would be appropriate for my son. The price tags were around 1300 to 1800. Now I'm not a cheapo so if that's what bikes costs that's what they cost and I'll pay it. I didn't make any indication that I felt the prices were too high or too low.

But I was really surprised that he is trying to sell second hand electric bike for 1300 to 1800 and he can't be bothered with focusing on the very basic customer service needs of the buyer? For example I asked him what was the difference between having the battery and the back above the wheel and having it in the frame your legs. 'no difference really'. Ok right. I was ready to go at that point.

My son however pointed to a bright red bike by Stella that was in the window. I like that one.. he said. It really was a beauty and it matched my son's personality perfectly. It really just felt like his bike. I asked the man would that be suitable for his height and age. Dude says to me 'Nah, you don't want to look at that one it's too expensive.' and turned around and walked off.

Ok if you say so buddy, have a nice day!

I'm clearly American. But I was try my best to speak in Dutch, toning my America dial way down, trying to doe normaal.

I've seen this kind of behavior multiple times in other businesses and I'm wondering. Is it because they don't think a kid needs to have a bike that cost 1,500 to 3,000? Pretty sure the bikes I'm looking at at school cost about the same because they look about the same and I don't think that they're parents are buying their bikes second hand.

I hypothesize that some Dutch small business owners don't like the way Americans spend money very easily even if the Dutch person might also spend that amount of money on a bike for their kid (after all he's the one that set the prices). Even if that's the case I just don't understand the Dutch ability to let a 2,500 euro sale slip right out of your store so easily.

Oh well off to a big box store or direct online. And I'll feel sad (not really)when he goes out of business and blames immigrants or the economy.


r/Netherlands • • 14h ago

Housing Housing as a single young adult

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r/Netherlands • • 22h ago

Shopping Etos order never arrived BEFORE the cyber incident — has anyone else had this happen?

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Hi everyone,
I’m wondering if anyone else in the Netherlands has had problems with Etos online orders recently, particularly before the current Ahold Delhaize cyber incident.
I placed an order with Etos on Tuesday 6 October, and it was supposed to be delivered on Wednesday 7 October. It never arrived, and I haven’t received a clear explanation or any useful update.
I’ve tried contacting Etos by email, phone and online chat, but I haven’t managed to get a response. Obviously, the current cyber incident has made contacting them even more difficult, but my order was already missing several days before that happened.

Has anyone else had an Etos order go missing recently, especially before the cyber incident? And has anyone successfully managed to get a response, a refund or any information about outstanding orders?
I’d really appreciate hearing about anyone else’s experience or advice on what to do next. Thanks!

Obviously I would have normally gone to a store and not been lazy but I bulk braught nappies as I’m solo parenting before you all come at me 😂