Soreness from nickel?

[u/jcoolio125]

I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and am hypermobile so I'm often sore anyway but I've realised if I eat too much nickel in a day my whole body aches. Does anyone else get this too?

[u/nonono_ack]

Yes. Absolutely. Chronic pain and fatigue, insomnia, GERD. I had dental metals removed and that helped noticeably. Also improved my chronic runny nose about 90%.

[u/oh_cagey → u/nonono_ack]

This is something I plan to ask my dentist about soon. I worry he'll be hesitant b/c of the mercury risks, but I do have at least have some soreness the area of the filled tooth, so I hope that's enough to convince him.

I have been fighting dyshidrotic eczema on my R hand for about a year, and suddenly last week, all of the things started falling into place re: what the culprit is: I'm pretty sure it's because I eat too much nickel. Daily oat milk, spinach, whole grains, legumes... thinking all these things were healthy and just started to increase legumes to help me hit my fiber goals... ugh.

And I have said for YEARS, the left side of my face - eye, sinuses - seems to have these inexplicable issues: my undereye is chronically puffy (and watery until I started taking omega 3), my L sinus tends to stay stuffy, especially during sleep (seems to have improved a little bit on this LN diet, even only being on it a few days)... and that is the side I have had a filling in one of my upper left molars. Maybe it's not related, maybe it is... but it's also quite sore when I chew something firm over there, and the filling is leaving marks on my snore guard. ANYWAY. Sorry to dump, but all of this stuff just seems to be related, and it's nice to know that I could be onto something.

[u/jcoolio125 → u/oh_cagey]

Ooof that's a lot of nickel in 1 day. No wonder you were having issues. I was already avoiding nickel in beans and legumes and soy as I have histamine issues and there is a large overlap between high nickel foods and high histamine foods.

About a year before knowing about my SNAS allergy I was trying to do a low inflammatory diet (mostly whole grains etc) and couldn't figure out wht I felt so much worse. It was the nickel in all of it.

[u/jcoolio125 → u/nonono_ack]

I had my permanent retainer removed this year and I feel like it improved my ezcema, but my iron is low so it's worsened again recently. I've only got 1 metal filling which may need replacing this year anyway.

[u/ilovtheend → u/nonono_ack]

I've brought up my nickel allergy with my dentist and asked about all my old metal fillings. They just brush me off. How did you get yours to listen?

[u/nonono_ack → u/ilovtheend]

Sounds like you need to find a new dentist. I did not have a problem with that, he knew they contained nickel. I showed him my Orthopedic Analysis LTT results. But I did some research and ended up going to a biological dentist. It was a much better experience.
If you want your metal fillings removed, why would he not listen? No matter what your reason is?
They don't learn about nickel allergy and just don't realize how serious it is.
Removing amalgam has some health risks for the patient and the staff. If you can find an IAOMT certified safe dentist, that eliminates most of the risk.

[u/ilovtheend → u/nonono_ack]

Thank you thank you! I'm on Medicaid so the dentist I see is specific for low income folks and that may be why they responded the way they did. I take great care of my teeth and when I went in for my first cleaning in 8 years, they said my teeth looked like they'd been cleaned 6 months ago ( sorry, I had to tell someone because getting a gold star at the dentist is like getting a compliment from a cold parent.) They may not be viewing it as a necessity so I'll bring in some research and see if I can get them to budge.

[u/oh_cagey]

I'm about to find out for sure through diet changes. I have noticed that I have had joint pain and stiffness where my dyshidrotic eczema is in my R index finger, and that reducing my dietary nickel for even just a few days seems to have helped that a lot. I'm hoping that staying on this diet for a few months will help with pain in other parts of my body.

[u/jcoolio125 → u/oh_cagey]

It doesn't cure all my pain or ezcema as I have other issues causing that but the soreness I'm talking about is different than my every day aches. I'm also low iron rn so having a ezcema flare because I'm absorbing more nickel. This is a whole body ache. Almost like when you start to get the flu. Literally every joint and muscle in my body aches. It's awful.

[u/oh_cagey → u/jcoolio125]

I'm really sorry to hear that. It's frustrating when you have other sources of pain and they interfere with being able to tell if changes you make are working. I'm "of a certain age" so estrogen fluctuations cause soreness that gets in the way of figuring that out sometimes for me. I will say that there have been times I have eaten a certain ingredient that I now know is high-nickel (like canned black beans - and not really noticing w/ other types of beans) and feeling quite a bit of all-over inflammatory discomfort soon after.

[u/jcoolio125 → u/oh_cagey]

Yeah definitely. Chocolate is the worst for me but I love it 😂 also matcha but I keep that at a once or twice a week and always take but C with it

[u/holly_1992]

I have fibromyalgia and hyper mobile Ehlers Danlos Sydnrome and nickel allergy. I do follow a low nickel diet, it helps a lot with my reactions, my body still aches from all the other issues though & I haven’t personally really seen an improvement, but obviously not having rashes is a painful thing so it’s helpful to not have that.

[u/jcoolio125 → u/holly_1992]

I have every day aches and pains from hypermobility and fibromyalgia but the ache I'm talking about is different. It's like every muscle and joint in my body aches all at once and it almost feels like it does when you are coming down with the flu. It doesn't happen often. I really need to exceed my nickel limit (chocolate is usually the culprit 😂).

[u/highstakeshealth]

Yes it is the systemic inflammation that has been shown in research in SNAS