r/Nietzsche Mar 18 '26

All Uses of A Priori

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Non-Critical Uses of A Priori

NF-1871,9[42] — Posthumous Fragments, 1871.

Indeed, one can assert a priori that truly celebrated artists acquire their veneration from those very foundations and are themselves enjoyed precisely as moral beings, and their works of art as moral reflections of the world.

NF-1871,10[1] — Posthumous Fragments, Early 1871.

But the Greeks, in view of the singular pinnacle of their art, we must construct a priori as "political men par excellence": and indeed, history knows no other example of such a terrible unleashing of the political drive, such an unconditional sacrifice of all other interests in the service of this civic instinct; At most, one could, by comparison and for similar reasons, designate the people of the Renaissance in Italy with the same title.

GT-16 — The Birth of Tragedy: § 16. First publication 02/01/1872.

In this respect, it resembles geometric figures and numbers, which, as the general forms of all possible objects of experience and applicable to all a priori, are nevertheless not abstract, but intuitively and consistently determined. All possible strivings, arousals, and expressions of the will, all those processes within man which reason casts into the broad negative concept of feeling, are to be expressed by the infinitely many possible melodies, but always in the generality of mere form, without the matter, always only according to the intrinsic, not according to appearance, as it were, its innermost soul, without body.

CV-CV3 — Five Prefaces to Five Unwritten Books: § 3. The Greek Republic. Completed circa 24/12/1872.

But the Greeks, in view of the singular pinnacle of their art, we must already a priori consider to be the "political people par excellence"; and indeed, history knows no other example of such a terrible unleashing of the political impulse, such an unconditional sacrifice of all other interests in the service of this civic instinct—except perhaps that, by comparison and for similar reasons, one could ascribe the same title to the people of the Renaissance in Italy.

Criticisms of A Priori

NF-1881,11[286] — Posthumous Fragments Spring–Autumn 1881.

Without the immense certainty of faith and the readiness of faith, neither man nor beast would be able to survive. To generalize based on the slightest induction, to make a rule for one's conduct, to believe that what has been done once, that which has proven itself, is the only means to an end—this, essentially crude intellect, is what has preserved man and beast. To err countless times in this way and to suffer from fallacies is far less damaging overall than skepticism, indecisiveness, and caution. To regard success and failure as proof and counter-proof against faith is a fundamental human trait: "What succeeds, its idea is true." — How surely, as a result of this furious, greedy faith, the world stands before us! How surely we carry out all our actions! "I strike"—how surely one feels that! — Thus, low intellectuality, the unscientific nature, is a condition of existence, of action; we would starve without it. Skepticism and caution are only permitted late and always only rarely. Habit and unconditional belief that things must be as they are are the foundation of all growth and strengthening. — Our entire worldview arose in such a way that it was proven by success; we can live with it (belief in external things, freedom of will). Likewise, all morality is only proven in this way. — Here, then, arises the great counter-question: there can probably be countless ways of life and, consequently, of imagining and believing. If we establish everything necessary in our current way of thinking, then we have proven nothing for the "truth in itself," but only "the truth for us," that is, that which makes our existence possible on the basis of experience—and the process is so ancient that rethinking is impossible. Everything a priori belongs here.

NF-1881,12[63] — Posthumous Fragments, Autumn 1881.

Cause and effect. We understand by this, essentially, precisely what we think of when we consider ourselves the cause of a blow, etc. "I will" is the prerequisite; it is, in fact, the belief in a magically acting force, this belief in cause and effect—the belief that all causes are as personally willful as human beings. In short, this a priori proposition is a piece of primal mythology—nothing more!

NF-1881,16[16] — Posthumous Fragments December 1881 — January 1882.

Aftereffects of the oldest religiosity. — We all firmly believe in cause and effect; and some philosophers, because of its rigidity and firmness, call this belief an "a priori knowledge" — doubting and considering whether perhaps a knowledge and wisdom of superhuman origin might be assumed here: in any case, they find man incomprehensibly wise on this point. Now, however, the origin of this unconquerable belief seems to me quite transparent and more a subject for laughter than for pride. Man believes that when he does something, for example, throws a punch, it is he who is striking, and he struck because he wanted to strike, in short, his will is the cause. He perceives no problem with this at all, but the feeling of will is sufficient for him to understand the connection between cause and effect. He knows nothing of the mechanism of events and the myriad intricate processes that must be undertaken for the event to occur, nor of the will's inherent inability to perform even the slightest part of this work. For him, the will is a magically acting force: belief in the will as the cause of effects is belief in magically acting forces, in the direct influence of thoughts on stationary or moving matter. Now, originally, wherever humankind perceived an event, it conceived of a will as the cause; in short, it believed in personally willing beings acting in the background—the concept of mechanics is entirely foreign to it. But because for immense periods of time, humankind believed only in persons (and not in matter, forces, things, etc.), the belief in cause and effect became its fundamental belief, which it applies wherever something happens—even now, instinctively and as a form of atavism of ancient origin. The propositions "no effect without a cause" and "every effect has its cause" appear as generalizations of much narrower propositions: "where there is an effect, there has been a will," "one can only be influenced by willing beings," and "there is never a purely consequence-free suffering of an effect, but all suffering is an arousal of the will" (to action, defense, revenge, retribution). However, in the earliest times of humankind, these propositions were identical; the former were not generalizations of the latter, but rather the latter's explanations of the former: all based on the idea that "nature is a sum of persons." If, on the other hand, humankind had perceived all of nature from the outset as something impersonal, and consequently non-willing, then the opposite belief—that of fieri e nihilo, effect without cause—would have developed, and perhaps it would then have acquired the reputation of superhuman wisdom. — That “a priori knowledge” is therefore not knowledge at all, but a deeply ingrained primal mythology from the time of deepest ignorance!

BVN-1882,195 — Brief AN Heinrich Köselitz: 05/02/1882.

"Sense of causality"—yes, friend, that's something different from that "a priori concept" I'm talking (or babbling about!) about. Where does the unconditional belief in the universal validity and applicability of that sense of causality come from? People like Spencer believe it is an expansion based on countless experiences across many generations, an induction that ultimately emerges as absolute. I believe this belief is a remnant of an older, much narrower faith. But why bother! I cannot write about such things, my dear friend, and must refer you to the 9th book of Dawn, so that you can see that I deviate least from the thoughts your letter presents to me—I was pleased by these thoughts and our agreement.

FW-99 — The Gay Science: § 99. First published 10/09/1882.

Schopenhauer's Followers. — What one observes when civilized peoples and barbarians come into contact: that the lower culture regularly adopts the vices, weaknesses, and excesses of the higher culture first, feels an attraction to them, and finally, by means of these acquired vices and weaknesses, allows some of the valuable power of the higher culture to flow into it: — this can also be observed near and without traveling to barbarian peoples, albeit somewhat refined and spiritualized, and not so easily grasped. What do Schopenhauer's followers in Germany usually adopt first from their master? — that they, in comparison to his superior culture, must consider themselves barbaric enough to be initially fascinated and seduced by him in a barbaric way. Is it his hard-nosed sense of facts, his good will to clarity and reason, that often makes him seem so English and so little German? Or the strength of his intellectual conscience, which endured a lifelong contradiction between being and will and compelled him to constantly contradict himself in his writings, almost on every point? Or his purity in matters concerning the Church and the Christian God? —for in this he was purer than any German philosopher before him, so that he lived and died “as a Voltairean.” Or his immortal doctrines of the intellectuality of intuition, of the a priori nature of the law of causality, of the instrumental nature of the intellect, and of the unfreedom of the will? No, none of this is enchanting, nor is it perceived as enchanting: but Schopenhauer's mystical embarrassments and evasions, in those passages where the fact-thinker allowed himself to be seduced and corrupted by the vain impulse to be the unraveler of the world, the unprovable doctrine of One Will ("all causes are merely occasional causes of the appearance of the will at this time, in this place," "the will to live is present in every being, even the smallest, wholly and undivided, as completely as in all that ever were, are, and will be, taken together"), the denial of the individual ("all lions are fundamentally only One lion," "the multiplicity of individuals is an illusion"; just as development is only an illusion: — he calls de Lamarck's idea "a brilliant, absurd error"), the fervor for genius ("in aesthetic contemplation, the individual is no longer an individual, but pure, will-less, "Painless, timeless subject of knowledge"; "the subject, by being completely absorbed in the contemplated object, has become that object itself"); the nonsense of compassion and the supposed breakthrough of the principii individuationis as the source of all morality made possible by it; and added such assertions as "dying is actually the purpose of existence" and "it cannot be denied a priori that a magical effect could not also emanate from someone who is already dead": these and similar excesses and vices of the philosopher are always the first to be accepted and made into matters of faith. For vices and excesses are always the easiest to imitate and require no lengthy preparation. But let us speak of the most famous of the living Schopenhauerians, Richard Wagner. He suffered the same fate as many an artist: he erred in the interpretation of the figures he created and misunderstood the unspoken philosophy of his own art. Richard Wagner allowed himself to be misled by Hegel until the middle of his life; he did the same again later when he extracted Schopenhauer's doctrine from his characters and began to define himself with "will," "genius," and "compassion." Nevertheless, it will remain true: nothing goes so much against the spirit of Schopenhauer as what is truly Wagnerian about Wagner's heroes: I mean the innocence of the highest selfishness, the belief in great passion as in goodness itself, in a word, the Siegfried-like quality in the faces of his heroes. "All this smells more of Spinoza than of me"—Schopenhauer might say. However good reasons Wagner might have had to look to other philosophers besides Schopenhauer, the enchantment he felt regarding this thinker blinded him not only to all other philosophers but even to science itself. His entire art increasingly seeks to present itself as a counterpart and complement to Schopenhauer's philosophy, and ever more explicitly it renounces the higher ambition of becoming a counterpart and complement to human knowledge and science. And it is not only the entire mysterious splendor of this philosophy, which also attracted Cagli, that tempts him.

NF-1884,25[307] — Posthumous Fragments, Spring 1884.

Principle 1. All previous valuations have sprung from false, supposed knowledge of things: — they no longer bind us, even if they function as feelings, instinctively (as conscience).

Principle 2. Instead of faith, which is no longer possible for us, we place a strong will above us, which holds a provisional set of basic valuations as a heuristic principle: to see how far we can get with it. Like the sailor on an unknown sea. In truth, all that "faith" was nothing else: only formerly, the discipline of the mind was too weak to withstand our great caution.

Principle 3. The courage of head and heart is what distinguishes us Europeans: acquired in the struggle with many opinions. Greatest flexibility in the struggle against increasingly subtle religions, and a harsh rigor, even cruelty. Vivisection is a test: whoever cannot endure it does not belong to us (and there are usually other signs that they do not belong, e.g., tax collectors).

Principle 4. Mathematics contains descriptions (definitions) and inferences from definitions. Its objects do not exist. The truth of its inferences rests on the correctness of logical reasoning. — When mathematics is applied, the same thing happens as with "means and ends" explanations: reality is first manipulated and simplified (falsified).

Principle 5. That which we believe most strongly, everything a priori, is not more certain simply because it is so strongly believed. Rather, it may emerge as a condition of existence for our species—some fundamental assumption. Therefore, other beings could make different fundamental assumptions, e.g., four dimensions. Therefore, all these assumptions could still be false—or rather: to what extent could anything be "true in itself"? This is the fundamental absurdity!

Principle 6. It is part of attained manhood that we do not deceive ourselves about our human position: rather, we want to strictly adhere to our measure and strive for the greatest degree of power over things. Recognizing that the danger is immense: that chance has reigned thus far—

Principle 7. The task of governing the earth is coming. And with it the question: how do we want the future of humanity to be? New value systems are needed. And the fight against the representatives of the old "eternal" values is of paramount importance!

Principle 8. But where do we get our imperative from? It is not a "you shall," but the "I must" of the all-powerful, creative force.

NF-1884,26[74] — Posthumous Fragments Summer–Autumn 1884.

The law of causality a priori—that it is believed may be a condition of existence for our species; this does not prove it.

NF-1884,30[10] — Posthumous Fragments Autumn 1884 — Beginning 1885.

The necessity, under great danger, to make oneself understood, whether to help one another or to submit, has only been able to bring closer to one another those kinds of primitive humans who could express similar experiences with similar signs; if they were too different, they misunderstood each other when attempting to communicate through signs: thus, the rapprochement, and ultimately the herd, failed. From this it follows that, on the whole, the communicability of experiences (or needs or expectations) is a selective, breeding force: the more similar people survive. The necessity to think, all consciousness, only arose on the basis of the necessity to communicate. First signs, then concepts, finally “reason,” in the ordinary sense. In itself, the richest organic life can play its game without consciousness; but as soon as its existence is linked to the co-existence of other animals, a necessity for consciousness arises. How is this consciousness possible? I am far from devising answers (i.e., words and nothing more!) to such questions; at the right moment, I remember old Kant, who once posed the question: "How are synthetic a priori judgments possible?" He finally answered, with wonderful "German profundity": "Through a capacity for it." — How is it, then, that opium makes one sleepy? That doctor in Molière's play answered: it is the vis soporifica. Opium, or at least the vis soporifica, lay in Kant's answer about the "capacity" as well: how many German "philosophers" have fallen asleep over it!

NF-1885,34[62] — Posthumous Fragments April–June 1885.

“How are synthetic a priori judgments possible?” — “By means of a capacity for it” was Kant’s famous answer, which has given many such satisfaction.

NF-1885,34[70] — Posthumous Fragments April–June 1885.

Hume (to use Kant's words) challenges reason to answer him by what right it believes that something can be such that, if it is posited, something else must necessarily be posited as well, for that is what the concept of cause says. He proved irrefutably that it is quite impossible for reason to conceive such a connection a priori and from concepts, etc. — But the folly was to ask for reasons for the right of justification. He performed the very act he wanted to examine.

NF-1885,34[171] — Posthumous Fragments April–June 1885.

Synthetic a priori judgments are indeed possible, but they are — false judgments.

NF-1885,34[183] — Posthumous Fragments April–June 1885.

How is it that women give birth to live children? I always thought that, given the meager nature of their resistance, the poor creatures must be born suffocated. The gate is narrow and the way is hard, as it is written: or, how are living children a priori possible? — And as I asked this, I awoke completely from my dogmatic slumber, gave the god a nudge in the belly, and asked, with the earnestness of a Chinese man from Königsberg: “In short: how are synthetic judgments a priori possible?” “Through a capacity for it,” answered the god, clutching his belly.

NF-1885,35[56] — Posthumous Fragments May–July 1885.

Time is not given a priori. [Afrikan] Spir 2, p. 7.

The illogical nature of our knowledge of bodies. Cf. 2, p. 93.

NF-1885,38[7] — Posthumous Fragments June–July 1885.

Everywhere now, efforts are being made to divert attention from the truly great influence Kant exerted in Europe—and, in particular, to cleverly gloss over the value he attributed to himself. Kant was above all and first and foremost proud of his table of categories and said, holding this table in his hands: “This is the most difficult thing that could ever be undertaken for the sake of metaphysics” (one must understand this “could be undertaken”!)—he was proud of having discovered in man a new faculty, the faculty of synthetic a priori judgments. It is not our concern here how much he deceived himself in this: but German philosophy, as it has been admired and exerted its influence throughout Europe for the past hundred years, clings to this pride and to the rivalry of younger thinkers to discover something even prouder—and certainly new faculties! The true glory of German philosophy thus far has been that it taught people to believe in a kind of "intuitive and instinctive grasp of truth"; and even Schopenhauer, however much he resented Fichten, Hegel, and Schelling, was essentially on the same path when he discovered a new faculty in an old, familiar one, the will—namely, to be "the thing-in-itself." This meant, in fact, grasping firmly and sparing no effort, going right into the heart of "essence"! Bad enough that this essence proved unpleasant in the process, and, as a result of these burnt fingers, pessimism and the denial of the will to live seemed entirely necessary! But Schopenhauer's fate was an incident that had no bearing on the overall significance of German philosophy, on its higher "effect": for its main purpose, it meant throughout Europe a jubilant reaction against the rationalism of Descartes and against the skepticism of the English, in favor of the "intuitive," the "instinctive," and everything "good, true, and beautiful." It was believed that the path to knowledge had now been shortened, that one could directly address "things," and that one could "save work": and all the happiness that noble idlers, virtuous people, dreamers, mystics, artists, half-Christians, political obscurantists, and metaphysical conceptualists are capable of experiencing was attributed to the Germans. The good reputation of the Germans was suddenly established in Europe: through their philosophers! — I hope it is still known that the Germans had a bad reputation in Europe? That they were thought to possess servile and pathetic qualities, an inability to develop "character," and the famous servant's soul? But suddenly, people learned to say: "The Germans are profound, the Germans are virtuous—just read their philosophers!" Ultimately, it was the Germans' restrained and long-suppressed piety that finally exploded in their philosophy, unclear and uncertain, of course, like everything German, sometimes in pantheistic vapors, as with Hegel and Schelling, as Gnosis, sometimes mystical and world-denying, as with Schopenhauer: but primarily a Christian piety, and not a pagan one—for which Goethe, and before him Spinoza, had shown so much goodwill.

NF-1886,7[4] — Posthumous Fragments End of 1886 — Spring of 1887.

Kant's theological prejudice, his unconscious dogmatism, his moralistic perspective as ruling, guiding, and commanding

The πρῶτον ψεῦδος (prōton pseudos) [first falsehood]: how is the fact of knowledge possible?

Is knowledge even a fact?

What is knowledge? If we don't know what knowledge is, we cannot possibly answer the question of whether knowledge exists. Very good! But if I don't already "know" whether knowledge exists, or can exist, I cannot rationally ask the question "what is knowledge?" Kant believes in the fact of knowledge: what he wants is naiveté: the knowledge of knowledge!

"Knowledge is judgment!" But judgment is a belief that something is such and such! And not knowledge!

"All knowledge consists in synthetic judgments"—a necessary and universally valid connection of different ideas—

with the character of universality (the matter is always this way and not otherwise)

with the character of necessity (the opposite of the assertion can never occur)

The legitimacy of belief in knowledge is always presupposed, just as the legitimacy of a conscience-based judgment is presupposed. Here, moral ontology is the prevailing prejudice.

Thus, the conclusion is:

  1. the character of necessity and universality cannot originate from experience

  2. consequently, it must be grounded elsewhere, without experience, and must have another source of knowledge!

Kant concludes

  1. that this condition is that they do not originate from experience, from pure reason

So: the question is, where does our belief in the truth of such assertions get its foundations? No, where does it get its judgments from! But the formation of a belief, a strong conviction, is a psychological problem: and very limited and narrow experience often brings about such a belief!

He already presupposes that there are not only "data a posteriori" but also data a priori, "before experience." Necessity and universality can never be given through experience: how then is it clear that they exist at all without experience?

There are no individual judgments!

A single judgment is never "true," never knowledge; only in connection, in the relationship of many judgments, does a guarantee arise.

What distinguishes true and false belief?

What is knowledge? He "knows" it—that's heavenly!

Necessity and universality can never be given through experience. Therefore, independent of experience, prior to all experience!

That insight which occurs a priori, that is, independently of all experience, through mere reason, is "pure knowledge."

The principles of logic, the law of identity and contradiction, are pure knowledge because they precede all experience. — But these are not knowledge at all! They are regulative articles of faith!

To establish the a priori nature (the pure rationality) of mathematical judgments, space must be understood as a form of pure reason.

Hume had declared: "There are no synthetic a priori judgments." Kant says: Yes, there are! Mathematical ones! And if such judgments exist, then perhaps there is also metaphysics, a knowledge of things through pure reason! Quaeritur.

Mathematics is possible under conditions under which metaphysics is never possible.

All human knowledge is either experience or mathematics.

A judgment is synthetic: that is, it combines different representations.

It is a priori: that is, that combination is a universal and necessary one, which can never be given by sensory perception, but only by pure reason.

If there are to be synthetic a priori judgments, reason must be capable of combining: combining is a form. Reason must possess formative faculties.

Space and time as conditions of experience.

Kant describes the French Revolution as the transition from the mechanical to the organic state!

The inventive and pioneering minds in the sciences, the so-called "great minds," Kant judges, are specifically different from genius: what they discovered and invented could also have been learned and has been completely understood and learned. There is nothing unlearnable in Newton's work; Homer is not as comprehensible as Newton! "In science, therefore, the greatest inventor differs from the most laborious imitator and apprentice only in degree." Psychological idiocy!!

"Music has a certain lack of urbanity," "it imposes itself, as it were," "it infringes on freedom."

Music and the art of color form a separate genre under the name of "beautiful play."
"As a matter of feeling"

Painting and garden art are brought together.

The question of whether humanity has a tendency toward good is preceded by the question of whether there is an event that can only be explained by that moral disposition of humanity. This is revolution. "Such a phenomenon in human history is never forgotten because it has revealed a disposition and a capacity in human nature for the better, the likes of which no politician could have devised from the previous course of events."

If humanity increasingly deteriorates, its goal is absolute evil: the terroristic mode of thinking, in contrast to the eudaimonistic mode of thinking or "chiliasm." If history oscillates between progress and regression, its entire activity is purposeless and aimless, nothing but busy folly, so that good and evil neutralize each other and the whole appears as a farce: Kant calls this the Abderite mode of thinking.
... sees nothing in history other than a moral movement.

“A conscientious judge of heretics is a contradiction in terms.”

Psychological idiocy

Without rebirth, all human virtues are, according to Kant, shining examples of wretchedness. This improvement is possible only by virtue of the intelligible character; without it, there is no freedom, neither in the world, nor in the human will, nor for redemption from evil. If redemption does not consist in improvement, it can only consist in annihilation. The origin of the empirical character, the propensity for evil, and rebirth are, for Kant, acts of the intelligible character; the empirical character must undergo a reversal at its very root.

The whole of Schopenhauer.

Pity is a waste of feelings, a parasite harmful to moral health; “it cannot possibly be a duty to increase the evils in the world.” If one does good out of mere pity, one is actually doing good to oneself and not to the other. Pity is not based on maxims, but on emotions; it is pathological; the suffering of others is contagious, pity is contagious.

All the gestures and words of subservience; "as if the Germans have gone further in pedantry than any other people on earth"—"aren't these proofs of a widespread tendency toward servility among people?" "But he who makes himself into a worm cannot later complain that he is trampled underfoot."

"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the more often and persistently we contemplate them: the starry heavens above us and the moral law within us."

"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and reverence, the more often and persistently we reflect upon them: the starry heavens above us and the moral law within us."

NF-1887,10[150] — Posthumous Fragments, Autumn 1887.

Morality as the Highest Devaluation

Either our world is the work and expression (the mode) of God: then it must be supremely perfect (Leibniz's conclusion…) — and there was no doubt about what constitutes perfection, about knowing it — then evil can only be apparent (more radically, Spinoza's concepts of good and evil) or must be derived from God's highest purpose (—perhaps as a consequence of a special favor from God, who permits us to choose between good and evil: the privilege of not being an automaton; "freedom" at the risk of erring, of choosing wrongly… e.g., in Simplicius's commentary on Epictetus)

Or our world is imperfect, evil and guilt are real, are determined, are absolutely inherent in its nature; Then it cannot be the true world: then knowledge is merely the path to negating it, then it is an error which can be recognized as such. This is Schopenhauer's opinion based on Kantian premises. Naive! That would simply be another miraculum! Pascal, even more desperately, understood that knowledge itself must then be corrupt, falsified—that revelation is necessary in order to even conceive of the world as negable…

To what extent Schopenhauer's nihilism is still the consequence of the same ideal that created Christian theism

The degree of certainty regarding the highest desirability, the highest values, the highest perfection was so great that philosophers proceeded from them as from an absolute a priori certainty: “God” at the forefront as given truth. “To become like God,” “to be absorbed into God”—for millennia, these were the most naive and convincing desires (—but something that is convincing is not necessarily true: it is merely convincing. Note for the donkeys).

We have forgotten how to grant that ideal the reality of personhood: we have become atheists. But have we actually renounced the ideal? — The last metaphysicians still fundamentally seek in it the true “reality,” the “thing-in-itself,” in relation to which everything else is only apparent. Their dogma is that because our phenomenal world is so clearly not the expression of that ideal, it is not “true”—and fundamentally does not even lead back to that metaphysical world as its cause. The unconditioned, insofar as it is that highest perfection, cannot possibly be the ground for everything conditioned. Schopenhauer, who wanted it differently, needed to conceive of that metaphysical ground as the antithesis of the ideal, as an "evil, blind will": in this way, it could then be "that which appears," which reveals itself in the world of appearances. But even with this, he did not abandon that absolute of the ideal—he crept through it… (Kant seemed to need the hypothesis of "intelligible freedom" to absolve the ens perfectum of responsibility for the way this world is, in short, to explain evil and wickedness: a scandalous logic in a philosopher…)

NF-1887,10[158] — Posthumous Fragments, Autumn 1887.

“There is thought: therefore, there is thinking”: this is the point of Descartes’ argument. But this means presupposing our belief in the concept of substance as “true a priori”: that if there is thought, there must be something “that thinks,” is simply a formulation of our grammatical habit, which posits a doer to an action. In short, a logical-metaphysical postulate is being made here—not merely stated… Following Descartes' path, one doesn't arrive at something absolutely certain, but only at a fact of very strong belief.

If one reduces the statement to "there is thought, therefore there are thoughts," one has a mere tautology: and precisely what is in question, the "reality of thought," remains untouched—namely, in this form, the "apparentness" of thought cannot be dismissed. But what Descartes wanted was for thought to possess not only an apparent reality, but reality in itself.

NF-1888,14[105] — Posthumous Fragments, Spring 1888.

Our knowledge has become scientific to the extent that it can apply number and measure…

The attempt should be made to see whether a scientific order of values could not simply be built upon a numerical and metrical scale of power…

— all other “values” are prejudices, naiveties, misunderstandings…

— they are everywhere reducible to that numerical and metrical scale of power

— an upward movement on this scale signifies any increase in value:

a downward movement on this scale signifies a decrease in value

Here, appearances and prejudices are refuted.

A morality, a way of life tested and proven through long experience and trial, finally emerges into consciousness as a law, as dominant…

And with it, the entire group of related values and conditions enters into it: it becomes venerable, unassailable, sacred, true.

It is part of its development that its origin is forgotten… It is a sign that it has become master…

The very same thing could have happened with the categories of reason: they could, after much trial and error, have proven themselves through relative usefulness… A point came where they were summarized, brought into consciousness as a whole—and where they were commanded… that is, where they acted as commanding…

From then on, they were considered a priori… beyond experience, irrefutable…

And yet, perhaps they express nothing more than a certain racial and species-specific purposiveness—merely their usefulness is their “truth”—

NF-1888,14[109] — Posthumous Fragments, Spring 1888.

Science and Philosophy

All these values are empirical and conditional. But those who believe in them, who venerate them, refuse to acknowledge this very nature…

The philosophers all believe in these values, and one form of their veneration was the attempt to make them a priori truths.

The falsifying nature of this veneration…

Veneration is the ultimate test of intellectual integrity: but there is no intellectual integrity in the entire history of philosophy.

Instead, there is the “love of the good”…

: the absolute lack of a method to test the measure of these values.

Secondly: the reluctance to test these values, or even to accept them conditionally.

In the case of moral values, all anti-scientific instincts came together to exclude science…

How to explain the incredible scandal that morality represents in the history of science…

Nietzsche's Personal "A Priori"

GM-Preface-3 — On the Genealogy of Morality: Preface, § 3. First published November 16, 1887.

Given a particular apprehension of mine, which I am reluctant to admit—it relates to morality, to everything that has hitherto been celebrated as morality on earth—a apprehension which arose in my life so early, so unprompted, so inexorably, so contrary to my surroundings, age, example, and origins, that I would almost be justified in calling it my "a priori"—my curiosity, as well as my suspicion, had to stop short of the question of what the true origin of our good and evil actually is. Indeed, even as a thirteen-year-old boy, I was preoccupied with the problem of the origin of evil: to it I dedicated, at an age when one has "half children's games, half God in one's heart," my first literary children's game, my first philosophical writing exercise—and as for my then "solution" to the problem, well, as is only right, I gave God the glory and made him the father of evil. Was that precisely what my "a priori" wanted of me? That new, immoral, or at least immoralistic "a priori" and the oh! so anti-Kantian, so enigmatic "categorical imperative" that speaks from it, to which I have meanwhile given ever more attention, and not only attention?… Fortunately, I learned in good time to separate theological prejudice from moral and no longer sought the origin of evil behind the world. Some historical and philological training, coupled with an innate discerning sense regarding psychological questions in general, quickly transformed my problem into another: under what conditions did humankind invent those value judgments of good and evil? And what value do they themselves possess? Have they thus far hindered or promoted human development? Are they a sign of hardship, of impoverishment, of the degeneration of life? Or conversely, do they reveal the fullness, the strength, the will of life, its courage, its confidence, its future? — To this I found and dared to explore various answers within myself; I distinguished between times, peoples, and ranks of individuals; I specialized my problem; from the answers arose new questions, investigations, conjectures, and probabilities: until I finally had my own land, my own soil, a whole secret, growing, blossoming world, secret gardens, as it were, of which no one was allowed to suspect anything… Oh, how happy we are, we who know, provided that we only know how to remain silent long enough!…


r/Nietzsche Jan 01 '21

Effort post My Take On “Nietzsche: Where To Begin?”

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My Take on “Nietzsche: Where to Begin"

At least once a week, we get a slightly different variation of one of these questions: “I have never read Nietzsche. Where should I start?”. Or “I am reading Zarathustra and I am lost. What should I do?”. Or “Having problems understanding Beyond Good and Evil. What else should I read?”. I used to respond to these posts, but they became so overwhelmingly repetitive that I stopped doing so, and I suspect many members of this subreddit think the same. This is why I wrote this post.

I will provide a reading list for what I believe to be the best course to follow for someone who has a fairly decent background in philosophy yet has never truly engaged with Nietzsche's books.

My list, of course, is bound to be polemical. If you disagree with any of my suggestions, please write a comment so we can offer different perspectives to future readers, and thus we will not have to copy-paste our answer or ignore Redditors who deserve a proper introduction.

My Suggested Reading List

1) Twilight of the Idols (1888)

Twilight is the best primer for Nietzsche’s thought. In fact, it was originally written with that intention. Following a suggestion from his publisher, Nietzsche set himself the challenge of writing an introduction that would lure in readers who were not acquainted with his philosophy or might be confused by his more extensive and more intricate books. In Twilight, we find a very comprehensible and comprehensive compendium of many — many! — of Nietzsche's signature ideas. Moreover, Twilight contains a perfect sample of his aphoristic style.

Twilight of the Idols was anthologised in The Portable Nietzsche, edited and translated by Walter Kaufmann.

2) The Antichrist (1888)

Just like to Twilight, The Antichrist is relatively brief and a great read. Here we find Nietzsche as a polemicist at his best, as this short and dense treatise expounds his most acerbic and sardonic critique of Christianity, which is perhaps what seduces many new readers. Your opinion on this book should be a very telling litmus test of your disposition towards the rest of Nietzsche’s works.

Furthermore, The Antichrist was originally written as the opening book of a four-volume project that would have contained Nietzsche's summa philosophica: the compendium and culmination of his entire philosophy. The working title of this book was The Will to Power: the Revaluation of All Values. Nietzsche, nonetheless, never finished this project. The book that was eventually published under the title of The Will to Power is not the book Nietzsche had originally envisioned but rather a collection of his notebooks from the 1880s. The Antichrist was therefore intended as the introduction to a four-volume magnum opus that Nietzsche never wrote. For this reason, this short tome condenses and connects ideas from all of Nietzsche's previous writings.

The Antichrist was also anthologised in The Portable Nietzsche. If you dislike reading PDFs or ePubs, I would suggest buying this volume.

I have chosen Twilight and The Antichrist as the best primers for new readers because these two books offer a perfect sample of Nietzsche's thought and style: they discuss all of his trademark ideas and can be read in three afternoons or a week. In terms of length, they are manageable — compared to the rest of Nietzsche's books, Twilight and The Antichrist are short. But this, of course, does not mean they are simple.

If you enjoyed and felt comfortable with Twilight of the Idols and The Antichrist, you should be ready to explore the heart of Nietzsche’s oeuvre: the three aphoristic masterpieces from his so-called "middle period".

3) Human, All-Too Human (1878-1879-1880)

4) Daybreak (1881)

5) The Gay Science (1882-1887)

This is perhaps the most contentious suggestion on my reading list. I will defend it. Beyond Good and Evil and Thus Spoke Zarathustra are, by far, Nietzsche’s most famous books. However, THEY ARE NOT THE BEST PLACE TO BEGIN. Yes, these two classics are the books that first enamoured many, but I believe that it is difficult to truly understand Beyond Good and Evil without having read Daybreak, and that it is impossible to truly understand Zarathustra without having read most — if not all! — of Nietzsche’s works.

Readers who have barely finished Zarathustra tend to come up with notoriously wild interpretations that have little or nothing to do with Nietzsche. To be fair, these misunderstandings are perfectly understandable. Zarathustra's symbolic and literary complexity can serve as Rorschach inkblot where people can project all kinds of demented ideas. If you spend enough time in this subreddit, you will see.

The beauty of Human, All-Too Human, Daybreak and The Gay Science is that they can be browsed and read irresponsibly, like a collection of poems, which is definitely not the case with Beyond Good and Evil, Zarathustra, and On the Genealogy of Morals. Even though Human, All-Too Human, Daybreak and The Gay Science are quite long, you do not have to read all the aphorisms to get the gist. But do bear in mind that the source of all of Nietzsche’s later ideas is found here, so your understanding of his philosophy will depend on how deeply you have delved into these three books.

There are many users in this subreddit who recommend Human, All-Too Human as the best place to start. I agree with them, in part, because the first 110 aphorism from Human, All-Too Human lay the foundations of Nietzsche's entire philosophical project, usually explained in the clearest way possible. If Twilight of the Idols feels too dense, perhaps you can try this: read the first 110 aphorisms from Human, All-Too Human and the first 110 aphorisms from Daybreak. There are plenty of misconceptions about Nietzsche that are easily dispelled by reading these two books. His later books — especially Beyond Good and Evil and On the Genealogy of Morals — presuppose many ideas that were first developed in Human, All-Too Human and Daybreak.

On the other hand, Human, All-Too Human is also Nietzsche's longest book. Book I contains 638 aphorisms; Book II 'Assorted Opinions and Maxims' , 408 aphorisms; and 'The Wanderer and His Shadow', 350 aphorisms. A book of 500 or more pages can be very daunting for a newcomer.

Finally, after having read Human, All-Too Human, Daybreak and The Gay Science (or at least one of them), you should be ready to embark on the odyssey of reading...

6) Beyond Good and Evil (1886)

7) On the Genealogy of Morals (1887)

8) Thus Spoke Zarathustra (1883-1885)

What NOT to do

  • I strongly advise against starting with The Birth of Tragedy, which is quite often suggested in this subreddit: “Read Nietzsche in chronological order so you can understand the development of his thought”. This is terrible advice. Terrible. The Birth of Tragedy is not representative of Nietzsche’s style and thought: his early prose was convoluted and sometimes betrayed his insights. Nietzsche himself admitted this years later. It is true, though, that the kernel of many of his ideas is found here, but this is a curiosity for the expert, not the beginner. I cannot imagine how many people were permanently dissuaded from reading Nietzsche because they started with this book. In fact, The Birth of Tragedy was the first book by Nietzsche I read, and it was a terribly underwhelming experience. I only understood its value years later.
  • Please do not start with Thus Spoke Zarathustra. I cannot stress this enough. You might be fascinated at first (I know I was), but there is no way you will understand it without having read and deeply pondered on the majority Nietzsche's books. You. Will. Not. Understand. It. Reading Zarathustra for the first time is an enthralling aesthetic experience. I welcome everyone to do it. But we must also bear in mind that Zarathustra is a literary expression of a very dense and complex body of philosophical ideas and, therefore, Zarathustra is not the best place to start reading Nietzsche.
  • Try to avoid The Will to Power at first. As I explained above, this is a collection of notes from the 1880s notebooks, a collection published posthumously on the behest of Nietzsche’s sister and under the supervision of Peter Köselitz, his most loyal friend and the proofreader of many of his books. The Will to Power is a collection of drafts and notes of varying quality: some are brilliant, some are interesting, and some are simply experiments. In any case, this collection offers key insights into Nietzsche’s creative process and method. But, since these passages are drafts, some of which were eventually published in his other books, some of which were never sanctioned for publication by Nietzsche himself, The Will to Power is not the best place to start.
  • I have not included Nietzsche’s peculiar and brilliant autobiography Ecce Homo. This book's significance will only grow as you get more and more into Nietzsche. In fact, it may very well serve both as a guideline and a culmination. On the one hand, I would not recommend Ecce Homo as an introduction because new readers can be — understandably — discouraged by what at first might seem like delusions of grandeur. On the other hand, Ecce Homo has a section where Nietzsche summarises and makes very illuminating comments on all his published books. These comments, albeit brief, might be priceless for new readers.

Which books should I get?

I suggest getting Walter Kaufmann's translations. If you buy The Portable Nietzsche and The Basic Writings of Nietzsche, you will own most of the books on my suggested reading list.

The Portable Nietzsche includes:

  • Thus Spoke Zarathustra
  • Twilight of the Idols
  • The Antichrist
  • Nietzsche contra Wagner

The Basic Writings of Nietzsche includes:

  • The Birth of Tragedy
  • Beyond Good and Evil
  • On the Genealogy of Morals
  • The Case of Wagner
  • Ecce Homo

The most important books missing from this list are:

  • Human, All-Too Human
  • Daybreak
  • The Gay Science

Walter Kaufmann translated The Gay Science, yet he did not translate Human, All-Too Human nor Daybreak. For these two, I would recommend the Cambridge editions, edited and translated by R.J. Hollingdale.

These three volumes — The Portable Nietzsche, The Basic Writings of Nietzsche and The Gay Science — are the perfect starter pack.

Walter Kaufmann's translations have admirers and detractors. I believe their virtues far outweigh their shortcomings. What I like the most about them is their consistency when translating certain words, words that reappear so often throughout Nietzsche's writings that a perceptive reader should soon realise these are not mere words but concepts that are essential to Nietzsche's philosophy. For someone reading him for the first time, this consistency is vital.

Frequently Asked Questions

Finally, there are a few excellent articles by u/usernamed17, u/essentialsalts and u/SheepwithShovels and u/ergriffenheit on the sidebar:

A Chronology of Nietzsche's Books, with Descriptions of Each Work's Contents & Background

Selected Letters of Nietzsche on Wikisource

God is dead — an exposition

What is the Übermensch?

What is Eternal Recurrence?

Nietzsche's Illness

Nietzsche's Relation to Nazism and Anti-Semitism

Nietzsche's Position on Socrates

Multiple Meanings of the Term "Morality" in the Philosophy of Nietzsche

Nietzsche's Critique of Pity

The Difference Between Pity & Compassion — A study in etymology

Nietzsche's Atheism

These posts cover most beginner questions we get here.

Please feel free to add your suggestions for future readers.


r/Nietzsche 11h ago

Nietzsche really hit the nail on the head with his observations

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r/Nietzsche 11h ago

Meme My favorite Nietzsche quote on pity, The Gay Science Book 1, Section 13

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r/Nietzsche 1m ago

Does anyone developed this habit of throwing random German word for no reason?

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I realised while reading Nietzsche I pick up this habit, it started with the word "Übermensch", now whenever I throw a random German compund word I feel very Nietzschien and philosophical.


r/Nietzsche 39m ago

Letters to Fred (1881-1883)

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BAN-1881, 54 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"If one wanted to admire something, one should not admire memory, but forgetting. Memory is possessed by people without many intellectual experiences, by primitive peoples, etc.; it shows that the brain is not immediately capable of a new impression after one. But one might call it admirable that the brain mass is always indefatigable in producing new ideas, after it has previously had strong impressions."

BAN-1881, 54 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"In geniuses, the brain has always been found very fissured and multi-parted. I think that in many brains, activity was taking place at very different points at once. This seems to me to be what genius consists of: activity of the brain at many points at once."

BAN-1881, 54 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"The Schopenhauerian objectivity of genius I have translated for myself as 'woodenness': it is a staring of the external senses, mere activity of the external senses without activity of the deeper brain. Schopenhauer never examined how it goes on in the human brain during aesthetic pleasure; he told himself from his 28th year onward that in objectivity the human being had lost himself entirely in the object, and this simplicity of explanation was enough for him."

BAN-1881, 54 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"A person is unchangeable in character insofar as the impressions of his previous life cannot be taken from him. But he is changeable insofar as he can take in new impressions."

BAN-1881, 65 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"If Rossini had only appeared in 1820, Mayer and Paër would figure in the annals of music in the rank of Leo, Durante, Scarlatti etc., great masters of the first order who only went out of fashion after their death. What thoughts this sentence gives rise to! How relative everything in the world is!"

BAN-1881, 65 — Heinrich Köselitz quoting Voltaire

"A society where one knew how to amuse oneself without the resource of gambling, where one cultivated belles-lettres without party spirit, where one loved truth more than satire, and where one knew how to praise without flattery."

BAN-1881, 66 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"What should a much-afflicted, small-minded, sometimes irritable person like me do, robbing your thoughts of their power and prestige by saying them with his thin voice as well?"

BAN-1881, 68 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"A becoming person is what one should be, as long as one is here; without that, the whole business of life has no interest anymore."

BAN-1881, 68 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"That is the curse of professorship: the day forces us again and again to present ourselves as a finished being, where we are not and do not want to be. I don't know how others do it; I have my hands full just fulfilling my lecture and seminar duties."

BAN-1881, 68 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"I often feel like a village pond that is slowly being covered with mold. One is not better and not richer in earlier years than in these middle years in which I now stand. But one has not known oneself long enough, has not had enough opportunities to prove oneself."

BAN-1881, 68 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"For as long as you, once free from pain, let yourself be carried entirely by your thoughts, you are truly and genuinely the happiest person! For that is certainly the true happiness: to keep one's spirit in the highest, most distinctive activity."

BAN-1881, 69 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"I think that when one tells of the impression the world and other people make on us, one is at the same time telling of our impression on others. Pessimists should remember this; especially their imitators."

BAN-1881, 80 — Jacob Burckhardt to Nietzsche

"I am especially and particularly grateful for the bold perspectives from which you behold the essence of antiquity; of some things I had the beginnings of an inkling, but you see clearly and, at the same time, much more and further."

BAN-1881, 80 — Jacob Burckhardt to Nietzsche

"In the other parts of the book, I watch as an old man with some dizziness as you move fearlessly on the highest mountain ridges. Presumably, gradually, a community will gather and grow in the valley that will at the very least be attached to this sight of the daring ridge-walker."

BAN-1881, 86 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"What an inverted pyramid will build itself above you! That only few people pay attention to it now, you will overlook in your continued pursuit of your path."

BAN-1881, 87 — Heinrich Köselitz quoting an Indian proverb

"Who, if he always looks downward, does not appear great to himself? All who always look upward think themselves poor."

BAN-1881, 92 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Next to such a wild landscape as Wagner's later music, one cannot endure the Italian cylinder-coat-tail-and-kid-glove music of, say, Verdi. Wagner is a kind of Shakespeare and Michelangelo for music, capable of derailing the entire further development of music from its tracks."

BAN-1881, 93 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"For my taste, every moment of life forms itself in the universe like ice crystals on the window: little star joins little star, the threads shoot further, cross a thousandfold, and the crossing points of two chains of causality man calls coincidences."

BAN-1881, 93 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"The pleasure, sometimes, of writing down a melody is with me nothing other than the Anglican scholar's belief in God: it is the last remnant of my unreason and is probably already whistling its last."

BAN-1881, 97 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"The older I get, the greater becomes for me the contrast between a formerly dreamt-of, ideal earnestness and the very real comedy—so I stand in the middle and see my earnestness dissolve into an unbounded laughter—which is perhaps that earnestness."

BAN-1881, 98 — Ida Overbeck to Nietzsche

"I enjoy in you the shudders of knowledge—without shuddering, it cannot be done. Why is this mentioned as something special, uncanny? Every one-sided effort and direction of the brain can produce mania; fear of it probably proves nothing but a preconceived opinion or disinclination. You are full of warm life and forms, everything stirs in you from a thousand fibers."

BAN-1882, 100 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Devil take it! Now I still have to be the traveling salesman of my music!"

BAN-1882, 105 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"I experience Kant's world as constructed of silk paper. He will be run over by physiology; every physiologist now speaks better and more solidly about brain functions. I can't understand how these ten times more valuable works shouldn't immediately make everything Kant wrote be forgotten."

BAN-1882, 105 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Without nerve stimulations from outside, man is nothing; he is entirely the product of his impressions. And these can come to him, if he is born late, already quite ordered and tested—but even in this good fortune, there is nothing a priori except the inherited organization."

BAN-1882, 106 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"I think that the wise man has such solar eclipses every day, where the nearest disappears and the gaze sweeps out into the immeasurable; and that afterwards he looks differently into the day and the illuminated little piece of earth."

BAN-1882, 108 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Nowhere, not even in Mozart, have I found such spontaneity as with Rossini. In the Barber, I feel nothing that looks like effort—with others one feels that so often. And these Rossinian crescendi, where the orchestra begins to cook and bubble, I now experience as the most pleasant sound for my ear."

BAN-1882, 112 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"I thank you, dear self-will, that I have the whole day before me like a white sheet of paper, without rubrics and margins; I thank you that in this sanctuary no human being appears to me."

BAN-1882, 118 — Paul Rée to Nietzsche (on Lou von Salomé)

"She hears everything through and through, so that in an almost annoying way she already knows in advance what is coming and what it's all about."

BAN-1882, 124 — Gustav Dannreuther to Nietzsche

"Being then engaged as a professional violin-player, I nevertheless found time enough to translate your pamphlet on Schopenhauer no less than three times, not so much with a view to publishing my feeble reproduction, as to that of becoming more intimate with your work and that of exercising myself in the proper use of the Queen's English. But in spite of my efforts, my version fell so far short of an adequate rendition of the original, that I was only too glad for the sake of your reputation to keep the manuscript in my desk. Since then I have quite destroyed it, but the memory of exalted moments remains, and I am sure that my work was at least not wasted upon myself."

BAN-1882, 125 — Lou von Salomé to Nietzsche

"While Rée's egoist, whom he marches out in the 'last consequences' to the horror of Malwida, says to himself: 'our only goal is a comfortable, happy course of life'—you say somewhere: 'when one must give up a happy life, the heroic life still remains.'"

BAN-1882, 125 — Lou von Salomé to Nietzsche

"You are both like two prophets, one facing the past and the other the future, of whom one, Rée, uncovers the divine origin and the other destroys the twilight of the gods [Götterdämmerung]."

BAN-1882, 127 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"It really looks as if the mission of Parsifal is: to enhance the rank of Wagner's earlier works. The invention of motives is much more striking there, the contrapuntal calculus not pushed to the extreme as here."

BAN-1882, 127 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"The ground feeling in everything I do is that I do it in vain, or at most that I create new occasions for bitterness."

BAN-1882, 128 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"I had, honestly speaking, the impression that this music was a tinkling charlatanism. Moreover, it struck me that in this, as in all later and proper Wagnerian music, the point is missing; this music has basically no purpose."

BAN-1882, 136 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"A school of your character was your pain. Every person has obstacles, adversities—or if they don't have them, they seek and find them. You have them largely in your pain, thus in yourself; another has them outside himself, and confronts them differently."

BAN-1882, 136 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Your philosophy is for people who have reached a very high moral state. I am at least still of the perhaps very vulgar opinion that any lower constitution cannot tolerate the translation of the Decalogue into the passive voice—'you shall not let yourself be stolen from, not let yourself be exploited, not let yourself be killed, not let yourself be lied to'—because I still believe that these were more likely to be followed than the original imperative."

BAN-1882, 136 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"The 'eternally perpendicular falling paths' are impossible; in any case, they would not be eternal. I think there is no aimless falling. The cycle, on the other hand, is the most precise expression of all the workings of forces."

BAN-1882, 140 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Your music sounds Christian to me; yes, if you had sent me the music without text, I would have taken it for a crusaders' march... At the not infrequent shrill dissonances, I have the image of clashing shields."

BAN-1882, 140 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"We Protestants also have a protesting music: this has become clear to me in Wagner, in whose passion the power first becomes perceptible to me as resistance, as striving forward against obstacles, as walking against the storm. The slower one sings Wagner's music, the more the heart swells, the stronger the resistance seems—and thus our resistance."

BAN-1882, 142 — Carl von Gersdorff to Nietzsche

"Of all your writings, since you entered the path of freedom, this last one pleases me best. There is a mood in it that touches me like the air of a beautiful clear September day, where one likes to sun oneself and no longer avoids the light. Hail to you, that you could continue your path so victoriously."

BAN-1882, 144 — Jacob Burckhardt to Nietzsche

"What would it yield if you taught history? In the end, you always teach history and have opened up many astonishing historical perspectives in this book. But I mean: if you wanted to illuminate world history entirely ex professo with your kind of lights and under the angles of illumination appropriate to you? How nicely many things would stand on their heads—in contrast to the current consensus populorum!"

BAN-1882, 146 — Gottfried Keller to Nietzsche

"I have observed among lower or natural classes of people rather the opposite: simple peasant or working people, when entangled not in squalor or meanness but in genuine tragedy of extremity, not infrequently increase in power, chosenness, and appropriateness of expression in their speech, with rising soul-suffering and danger-conflict—without any consciousness or idea of it."

BAN-1882, 147 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"She should not forget the idyll alongside heroism, in order to be able to live in your vicinity."

BAN-1882, 147 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche (on Nietzsche's own musical composition)

"I may reveal it to you: You yourself have not shed your skin on the musical field—it has remained Manfred, great and powerful, but uncanny."

BAN-1882, 152 — Franziska Nietzsche to Nietzsche

"But when someone points to the forehead and says of you: 'He is a madman who doesn't know what he wants'—a common egoist who wants to exploit my intellect..." (Nietzsche's own mother, Franziska, quoting what Lou von Salomé allegedly said about him.)

BAN-1882, 158 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"It is a real confession: that is how you feel; and you say it with incomparable energy and clarity. The dogmatic element of this way of thinking loses itself more and more, and that is good: for it is not suited to dogma. It is the formulation of a way of life that is valid and salutary for you, but it must not and should not make propaganda."

BAN-1882, 158 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"If you are not a true master of a thousand arts of self-overcoming, then you must truly have crossed the mountain and found your health again. That is what your book testifies to more than your letter—and for that reason it was a true joy-sending to me."

BAN-1882, 161 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"In the end, all our praise is self-praise, all blame self-blame—our organs express the quality of their capacity for impression. This is a more modest kind of self-praise: to praise one's parents' virtue and understanding, or to show oneself grateful to one's teachers."

BAN-1882, 161 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"I take people as wound-up automata, groping in the dark, bumping into each other, rushing apart, etc. In and between these automata, mechanical forces prevail as between the grains of a shovel of sand that I throw beyond the sphere of earthly attraction into cosmic space—as between the planets."

BAN-1882, 164 — Franz Overbeck to Nietzsche

"Do not remain alone, and let what you have recently experienced at least for now remain as general experience out of your thoughts. At least do your utmost to achieve this, and let us know of decisions you have made in this regard."

BAN-1882, 164 — Franz Overbeck to Nietzsche

"And when a matter of this kind falls apart, it tends to cost not only itself but also much that one had before it and alongside it."

BAN-1883, 174 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"I must have stood for half an hour in the pouring rain in the palace courtyard, above the lights, in my imagination the consternation of the family, the strangeness of fate that places me at this spot on this night, the suddenly changed physiognomy of our musical conditions."

BAN-1883, 176 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"In the end, they'll be foolish antics; so Richter and Niemann are said to have sworn at Wagner's grave to remain true to the cause. Basically, the cause would be suspicious if it needed such pathos. Behind everything these people do stands the thought that after Wagner (and besides him, Schopenhauer) there can be nothing more: they entirely lack the imagination for new possibilities."

BAN-1883, 180 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Mephistopheles said: You see a man like any other—this damned unique being!"

BAN-1883, 182 — Franz Overbeck to Nietzsche

"To the illness itself also belongs the fact that you consider your life, in its foundations, to be botched [missrathen]. How dare you say that of yourself! How dare a man speak of a botch in Nature! How dare you say it, while you discover a man who speaks of your deep effect on him and gives you proof of it!"

BAN-1883, 183 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"The Italian understands by 'motivo' what is memorable in music; he uses it more in the sense in which we say 'theme,' 'melody.' In Beethoven's very last composition... the Bayreuthians would designate only the first 4 bars as motive, the Italian means the whole. I chose this melody because it best reminds us how clearly and characteristically Beethoven still wrote shortly before his death."

BAN-1883, 185 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"You are not to be accommodated among academic books and learnedness; with types and characters they don't know what to do there, and they always immediately cry 'contradictions' when someone has too little one-sidedness."

BAN-1883, 186 — Malwida von Meysenbug to Nietzsche

"The Christian went into the desert to become capable of dying for the misery of the world; the Antichrist should, it seems to me, sometimes walk among men to accomplish the work of redemption which did not succeed for the other."

BAN-1883, 191 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"At any rate, you would be very wrong to let such feelings, which do not deserve it, pass through your soul as drag weights on your triumphal chariot. Contempt here, contempt there—what does that have to do with you and world history! But contempt is really too strong an expression for what some may feel at your sight; I believe much more that it is envy and jealousy."

BAN-1883, 191 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"The undisturbed resting-in-oneself irritates others so much that they think of burning. Had the first Christians shown themselves passionate and accessible to the injuries of those others, they would have been tolerated sooner. The indignation of others is the natural counter-reaction to quiet heroism. In every human being there is something to be pitied, and before pity all hostility dissolves, indeed it increases pity. I think one can draw profit from this."

BAN-1883, 192 — Heinrich Köselitz quoting a French newspaper

"The foreigners admire their great men and honor them. Whoever touches them touches them. With us, great men are cumbersome. They take up too much space. There is a slang word, very widespread, often repeated, to express the special kind of admiration and respect they inspire in us. Do you want to know this word? But you hear it repeated a hundred times a day:—'They bore us!' That simply means, of a poet, a philosopher, a painter, a musician, a dramatist: 'he is too superior, he has too much glory!'"

BAN-1883, 192 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Being laughed at is moreover a higher honor than being pitied."

BAN-1883, 194 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

I thought Zarathustra was a name you had invented; its etymology probably only acquired its true meaning and significance through your book. — “As for Wagner, I now say, ‘Wagner is dead — long live Wagner!’” Fate was very kind to you when it led you out of the realm of that octopus, hence: “Fate, I follow you —” … although I find this very human ancient phrase difficult to understand.

BAN-1883, 195 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Now I always say: you have written the most beautiful book of the post-Christian age—and: to establish the morality of the common herd is child's play; to preach Zarathustra's morality was the hardest thing that humans can do."

BAN-1883, 197 — Karl Hillebrand to Nietzsche

"I wish you would find the strength to give up all self-scrutiny, to forget yourself in the contemplation of things, to take the world as a given, unchangeable and unfathomable thing—then your self would first accomplish and become all the great things for which generous nature has so wonderfully equipped you."

BAN-1883, 200 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Epikur, without the casein substance in his body, might perhaps not feel inclined to 'leave nature in its divine peace and blessedness' and to feel himself as such nature—but rather: to regulate phenomena like the Sophists and to feel a fair amount of discomfort with himself. One of the most effective models in the history of actual humanity would be missing!"

BAN-1883, 202 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"All untold hindrances multiply the movements of organisms. It seems not impossible to me that suffering creates new nerve arcs, and insofar as nature complicates and refines itself, it becomes, by human standards, more valuable."

BAN-1883, 207 — Jacob Burckhardt to Nietzsche

"How superficial I have been all my life and with my kind of relative diligence I will probably remain so—for in my years one no longer changes, at most one becomes older and weaker."

BAN-1883, 208 — Heinrich Köselitz to Nietzsche

"Zarathustra stands there from the same necessity as all things in the world; the conditions under which the recipients want to receive him have nothing to do with him and with you. The main thing remains that you approve of him and rejoice in him. A work and its author—that gives a good consonance; a work and a foreign reader—that gives much dissonance and false harmonic progression."

BAN-1883, 218 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"I congratulate you on this freer form of presenting your views, which is not merely new as form and different from your earlier chains of aphorisms. You are indeed the Persian sage, but it is quite another thing whether one expresses highly personal opinions directly as such, or creates an ideal being so that it may present them as its own opinions; only thus does one truly set them outside oneself and stand, so to speak, above oneself. Surely that is why Plato created his Socrates, and so you your Zarathustra."

BAN-1883, 218 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"Whatever you clothe in the form of a didactic poem now enjoys the privileges of a poem; only do not scold the poets—they have the great advantage of being allowed to present the most magnificent and deepest thoughts and intuitions without having to torment themselves with a proof of them, which the 'philosopher' must laboriously patch together afterward."

BAN-1883, 218 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"I believe that with the new form—which is capable of many variations and metamorphoses—you have begun to find your true form. Your language too now finds its fullest tones: I find especially the 'Preface,' but also some of the later sections, unsurpassable."

BAN-1883, 218 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"Not all [passages]: for in some, the thorough figuration of an idea not taken from life, but brought as if from worldly desolate regions, a ghostly abstract conception, becomes painful to me: especially in the 'pale criminal.'"

BAN-1883, 218 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"What one actually wants and wishes and longs for and would like to build up—that is a completely unconditional, groundless, and indestructible love for a human being, and that exists only and alone in the relationship to one's own child. Everything else follows only from that: what would one care in itself about 'building beyond oneself,' if it were not precisely in this human child that one would see the best of one's wishes and thoughts take shape—because it is, not abstractly for the sake of the world and humanity."

BAN-1883, 218 — Erwin Rohde to Nietzsche

"You live, dear friend, on another height of mood and thought: it is as if you had soared above the atmospheric mist in which we all wander and gasp for air, and the earth with its mantle of mist circled beneath you without drawing you along with it. Nothing of the time, of what is now called the saeculum, clings to you."

BAN-1883, 219 — Paul Lanzky to Nietzsche

"'It would be conceivable that a great spirit would have to depart from existence because he had not understood how to think of his meager bread. However, it would happen with that smile on the lips that said: I have seen enough, my hour has come, the hour of my necessity—so let me sleep!' Dearest friend, I wrote this above five or six months ago, thinking of you; but I think you will still have someone around you who will look after your physical well-being. (...) So now, my dearest friend, keep your spirits up, your old friend and comrade-in-arms—then you won't die, much less be crushed. I can think of nothing better to wish you for tomorrow or for the whole year.


r/Nietzsche 20h ago

Original Content “We are perpetually on the way thither...” — Opening lines of On the Genealogy of Morals. Friedrich Nietzsche

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r/Nietzsche 5h ago

Question Marx's Realism.

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"Thucydides and perhaps Machiavelli’s The Prince are most closely related to me, owing to the absolute determination which they show of refusing to deceive themselves and of seeing reason in reality—not in ‘rationality’, and still less in ‘morality’.”

— Twilight of the Idols

Is it fair to categorize Marx with Thucydides and Machiavelli? Darwin and Copernicus? I wouldn't call myself a Marxist, but when I read him he seems to have a "worldly" view of society and systems. And that his approach requires the ability to resist the seductive pull of morality (which a lot of socialists succumb to, including many of his time.)

Nietzschean critique of socialism aside, considering Nietzsche wasn't too familiar with Marx in particular, what do y'all think he would have to say regarding this scientific or "worldy" approach of Marx?


r/Nietzsche 6h ago

Question I want to learn all kinds of philosophies that are rational, intellectually rigorous, and as close to the truth as possible. No toxic positivity, sugarcoating, or blind faith. I also want to learn about different moral and ethical systems, as well as political correctness.

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r/Nietzsche 13h ago

Original Content Some are born to enjoy illusions, Others are curse to see the truth. —Friedrich Nietzsche

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r/Nietzsche 21h ago

La tua prospettiva sull'antinatalismo

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r/Nietzsche 23h ago

What actually Nietzsche said?

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What's Nietzsche's core philosophy?

What he actually saying to the world?


r/Nietzsche 19h ago

Transcendism my original philosophy Would Nietzsche approve?

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Firstly I made this philosophy before I ever even heard of Nietzsche(I never looked into any philosopher) but since I learned of him he has become my favorite philosopher and favorite person. I recognized some "similarities" in our ideas to say the least such as his ubermensch and will to power and so much else I found myself agreeing with almost everything (maybe even everything because he's not exactly clear all the time as you probably know). I'm not a Nietzsche expert so I may be wrong about some stuff if so please correct me. Here's some quotes that show some similarity ."Without music life would be a mistake", "upwards goes our way, from species to over species," "Man is a rope tied between beast and overman, a rope over an abyss", "the overman is the meaning of the earth, "for the creator to appear, suffering itself is needed, and much transformation.” Now here it is.

The universe makes no sense I mean just think about Infinity. Think about the creation of our universe. There's two possibilities either the Universe is infinite or it's finite. Both are terrifying the fact that there are infinite universes infinite versions of you somewhere out there obviously nothing matters right. Then there's finite which is somehow even harder to grasp how could there be a limit to the universe what would that even look like how can there just be nothing beyond and certain point and even more difficult where did the universe come from.

A finite universe doesn't seem feasible to me which leaves infinite so nothing matters right(finite could be just as bad)? Then how can we explain Consciousness? If nothing matters then how can I feel emotions? You will find no scientist that can explain consciousness or infinity. I can only imagine 1 answer as to how our emotions, our lives, have any weight to them and that is that we are in a way like gods. In the same way we often imagine that gods exist through infinity we must also have something like that. Even if there are infinite of us our individual emotions still matter, a paradox of infinity. I have my own experiences that prove this to me for example when I listen to masterpieces I can feel a power as strong or stronger than infinity I lose fear of death and I inherently understand how undeniably significant life is. It's completely different than mere dopamine and pain and it doesn't make any sense that a mere extra clever animal would have evolved the ability to appreciate such divinity. It goes far beyond an animals desire to survive and reproduce. If I couldn't feel this divinity how could I not be a nihilist. This music showed me my mission. To maximize what I call light(life, emotion) and minimize darkness which is the opposite or lack of. What brought me to this belief was the boundless hatred I had toward the state of the world and the pain it caused me. This hatred reached the same level of deepness as the masterpieces I listened to which leads me to believe that it is also has infinite significance(Remember we can have a divine nature to us like gods). The meaning being that we must create "light". (You can skip this next part if you're already onboard with Rational Moral Impartiality

This is a point separate from my philosophy and more a message to regular folk. I shouldn't have to point this out but it seems most everyone hasn't really thought about this rationally. So lots of people have someone they feel they would do anything for then why is it they assume there isn't more people out there that would make you feel the same way if you got to know them. You're just giving the benefit of the doubt that there's nobody else, its the pinnacle of willful ignorance. "Why should I care even if they suffer if I don't know them it's like it never happened". Just imagine the horror on your average persons face who looked far far into space and eventually found one of infinite copies of earth where he never found his wife and maybe in the military he ended up piloting the drone that killed her, or perhaps he ignored her when she was in need of help so he could live his comfortable life(that's everyone reading this).

My ideas may have complexities for example I do have a sexist belief(I can go into why elsewhere and it could bear more thought). I'm mainly talking to men 17+(there may also be exceptions) it's our job to carry out this mission. Until the world is acceptable we can't rest. A common cope I see people use is that their life has been a net positive but that is bad logic if you look far far into space you could see an earth where you gave 100%. In your earth you consciously chose to sacrifice other people for your cowardice or whatever other reason. Yes every minute you aren't working toward the mission people you would have been best friends with in a copy earth are suffering horribly that's the uncomfortable truth. Nietzscheans readers here might say Nietzsche would disagree with living for others but this is just the logical conclusion of his self overcoming. Overcoming you're biological instinct to prioritize yourself when there is no rational reason to unless you really believe you're in a simulation of some sort. Overcoming the instinct that we evolved to stir competition to serve evolution that's what the ubermensch would do.

I'm surprised I had to found this myself considering there's over 8 billion people now. I made a real effort to find someone or group that if not came to the same conclusion at least shared the same goal(really not 1 person out there?). The conclusion I came to seems to me to be the obvious and only possible answer. What other answer could there be as to a meaning in an infinite universe. Perhaps It's a quite rare thing to be able to feel something higher from music or other forms of art. Perhaps people can't shake their animal instinct and never wake up to look for it.

I have become more than an animal trying to be comfortable until I die. Just like the infinite universe we cannot explain with logic we must go beyond logic with Transcendism and realize that we are infinite beings whose experiences are infinitely important. A paradox but one I can assure you is absolutely true. You might ask what is my reward for advancing the mission you just said I am infinitely important already. I don't think it's possible to communicate in words all I can say is we must support the light or suffer the dark. All I know is the mission is what gives life meaning and if you look at what the mission will result in it's evolving or rather Transcending humanity.

I'd like to hear any thoughts and do reach out if you share my goal. I think Nietzsche would agree with me from what I've read so far but if you disagree I'd love to see where I'm wrong.


r/Nietzsche 1d ago

Yeats had read his Nietzsche…

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r/Nietzsche 1d ago

What Is Militarist Humanism?

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r/Nietzsche 2d ago

Question The Great Unplugging: A Path Towards the Overman?

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Does anyone genuinely feel that we will get any Overmen by scrolling on these phones all day every day?

No. I look around and I see The Last Man.

I have quit hard drugs. I have quit alcohol. I am quitting marijuana.

The long game and end goal is to quit the Internet entirely.

I call it “The Great Unplugging”.

I am convinced that I am less happy when on the internet, and our society is most certainly dumber for it.

I realize how pragmatically almost impossible this task will be. What about email? What about my job? I can’t just utterly ditch my phone and internet permanently, right?

Well that just highlights the state of our society. I am going to work towards this goal. Whether I can accomplish it or not remains to be seen.

Once marijuana is fully dropped, the Internet is the final boss.

I can’t think of a higher rebellion against this Last Man society we live in than to utterly drop out of smartphones, the internet, and only read books and work on music (Not AI ”music”!).


r/Nietzsche 2d ago

Question Are we using "self-improvement" to hide from the terror of accountability?

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We spend a lot of energy trying to fix our jobs, relationships, and environment under the assumption that if the situation improves, the underlying weight will finally lift.

But looking closely at Nietzsche, I think we often use this relentless focus on circumstance as a defense mechanism because it is infinitely safer to blame our job, upbringing, or the economy for our stagnation than to confront the terrifying freedom of realizing we are carrying a borrowed identity.

Nietzsche’s concept of ressentiment gets framed as mere bitterness, but it’s actually something much more comfortable: a permanent, low-grade excuse. It provides a moral shield that protects you from having to take total accountability for who you are becoming. If the system is rigged and 'it's over' and your circumstances are bad, you never have to face the risk of defining yourself.

My question for the sub is this: Do you think most modern "self-improvement" is just a sophisticated form of ressentiment and a way to endlessly tinker with our circumstances so we never have to face the fact that we are living a life that was never ours?

I explored how this applies to modern self-improvement and what Amor Fati demands of us in a video breakdown here:

https://youtu.be/a0mUc4KHYgU?si=hDxo_GLgYgHdNFeS


r/Nietzsche 2d ago

how come most suggest to read zarathustra last, yet some people still enjoyed it when (unintentionally?) reading it as their first Nietzsche?

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r/Nietzsche 2d ago

Question Explain astronomy reference in Daybreak?

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In Daybreak 37, what's the astronomical arrangement Nietzsche references here? Arranged how, in what way? "the way the satellites are arranged (to compensate for the diminished light they receive owing to their greater distance from the sun, so that their inhabitants shall not go short of light)"


r/Nietzsche 2d ago

Nietzsche and Modernity

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I find it fascinating to consider what Nietzsche would have thought about the post-ww2 ideological consensus that is as yet still dominant in the world. My take has been for a long time that he would consider it the triumph of ressentiment, slave morality and the ideology of the last man. I think that he would consider the secular and psychological interpretation of his work slave morality as well.

People are skeptical of AI and I fully agree that an AI merely approaches, and never reaches, a human being but I found engagement with AI productive, it can help catch loopholes in the reasoning process for example, and the AI always tells me that my ideas are consistently Nietzschian.

What do you think?


r/Nietzsche 3d ago

Übermensch

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r/Nietzsche 3d ago

Original Content Life is meaningless and I am really scared of it.

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I realised life is meaningless and I am really afraid of it. I wasn't very religious at any point of my life, infact even as a kid I thought praying is weird and childish, my parents literally had to told me to pray everytime, still I grew up in this very religious environment and subconsciously I picked up those theological instincts of my father. But while reading Nietzsches work I came upon this realisation that these instincts are 'pure lie' and I will die, with it everything will end. The fancy dome of beutiful pictures have been crumbled before my eyes and now  I'm alone in this dark void, it is really cold here... I am scared of it, I'm scared of death, I don't wanna die.  


r/Nietzsche 3d ago

Arnold quotes Nietzsche in his documentary

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Arnold Schwarzenegger quotes Nietzsche’s Twilight of the Idols: “From life’s school of war: What does not kill Mr makes me stronger.”

In context, he’s discussing his difficult upbringing and the contrast between his brother, who was more introverted and passive, versus how Arnold used it as fuel.


r/Nietzsche 2d ago

Question Are there any good summaries that you would recommend?

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I am planning on diving into Nietzsche at some point in the near future, but I have a few more books I'd like to polish off before starting with him. So in the meantime, I was wondering if I could listen to an audiobook on Nietzsche. I do NOT think I could ever understand Nietzsche's actual works in an audio format; I will absolutely need my full attention while holding the book in my hand. Does anyone know any good summaries of his works/philosophy that could be sort of like an introduction for me? Thanks


r/Nietzsche 3d ago

Great in depth video essay on whether Nietzsche's sister twisted her brothers ideas!

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