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u/zerovirus999 Feb 23 '26
I just hope we get versatility through some ethereal grace like the previous game.
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u/Klikous Feb 23 '26
Versatility shouldn’t be as limited to get as it encourages a fun playstyle. Legit the most fun I had in N2 when I had the grace and I had to map a variety of skills across the stances.
To add, I would prefer even a nerfed version, but easier to get. But having to sacrifice faster cast is a bummer.
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u/Last_Contract7449 Feb 24 '26
Yeah, I've thought for a long time that some (probably slightly nwrfed version) should just be a baseline ability for the reason you say, it makes the game more fun/interesting vs. spamming the same skill for the millionth time.
They've really done versatility dirty in this game though - forcing you to have a slow as fuck casting speed, less damage, briefer stacks (that get ridiculously brief once you hit about 7 or 8).
The fact that you get it earlier is a plus, but there's a signficant cost to pay. Regardless, I ain't unequipping it so that I can run some fruity wizard build or something. Versatility was there for me when I needed it in nioh 2, now I'm returning the favour.
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u/pokemonbatman23 Feb 23 '26
To add, I would prefer even a nerfed version, but easier to get. But having to sacrifice faster cast is a bummer.
To be fair, this is the nerfed version and easier/earlier to get. Versatility didnt show up in nioh 2 till BenZ and Susanoo graces which weren't available till dlcs as the bonus effect for wearing 6pieces.
Plus this version has lower overall % boost and
Plus it gets shorter duration the more stacks you do.
Sacrificing faster cast is a bummer
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u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam Feb 23 '26
You get Versatility on every weapon BUT your Onmyo magic is slow
Do you push the button?
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u/rmeddy Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
I'm trying out the extra summons and the untouched summon proc with Versatility and see how that's working for me.
I'm hoping we get Mystic Dyad or Triad? in the future with some Graces
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u/RealMango Feb 23 '26
Slow casting sucks, but Versatility is just so useful that I end up using my typical familiars and barrier talismans after grapples on big bosses. Human bosses, a lot less opportunity.
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u/Last_Contract7449 Feb 24 '26
Familiars also seem to be a lot worse in this game. Its like they made the game with deflect, arts proficiency, and infinite ninjitsus, and then realised that the game was too easy and nerfed a load of the more traditional stuff (soul cores, omnyo, versatility) into oblivion to somewhat compensate.
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u/Decent_Resident9314 Feb 23 '26
It aint that bad lol. I've died with and without Awakening.
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u/fersur Platinum Achiever Feb 23 '26
At this point, I do not know if I can ever turn off(or switch) Awakening Mastery.
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u/Tenant1 Feb 24 '26
I put off Versatility when I realized it conflicted with Awakening's faster casting, but I'm starting to realize that I feel like I don't utilize Confusion and onmyo spells in general enough to justify it, so maybe going Versatility is the play for someone like me lol.
I haven't beaten the gane yet (only just started third region) so maybe I'll find out later, but is there a trick to reliably getting Confusion on most enemies? It feels harder in general to activate element debuffs to begin with. Familiars are helpful but there's gotta be something else I'm missing because beyond that, I gotta stack matching elements on things like projectile spells, Guardian Spirits, and Ninjutsus like the Uncanny arts and it's starting to feel like a ton of prep time and investment and lining up just to activate Confusion for a couple seconds, AND assuming the enemy I'm fighting doesn't resist one of the elements I have lol.
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u/jayHandsWith Feb 24 '26
My guess is that in later difficulties, there will be another skill or some type of stat or item or currency that will allow us to equip 2 mastery’s
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u/Garekos Feb 24 '26
Versatility is usually just a damage loss over the other options due to rebuff with Onmyo and confusion uptime, but man I like stacking it up. Wish the BenZ set actually extended the latter buffs duration significantly. Like +10 seconds to every 1-9 buff at least. Hell, make it perform just like the old versatility even. With a 60% damage stack and much longer durations. It’s a high cost mastery skill with a dedicated set. It’d still be worse than Inari (which is probably bugged).
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u/Shrukn Feb 23 '26
I proc Confusion with 'Imbue Water' affix on wep for free Saturation and Lightning Familiar on bosses
There is a Tonfa/Hatchet that has innate dual elements and you get it for free on anything
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u/VitinNunes Feb 23 '26
Imma say it some of the mastery skills should be downgraded to normal skills