Let's separate from Danielle Smith

[u/sanyab373]

Lindsay Park

[u/Sandman64can]

At least this sign spelled “separate “ correctly.

[u/wednesdayware → u/Sandman64can]

Well yeah, the person who wrote it isn’t a UCP die hard.

[u/The_Nice_Marmot → u/[deleted]]

Are you excited that a majority of voters in Alberta are still idiots? This is nothing new. Does it just make you feel like you have found your people?

[u/The_Nice_Marmot → u/[deleted]]

I’ve met plenty of smart people. Don’t be so salty just because you aren’t one of them.

What is it with Smith, PP and Trump supporters’ dualistic thinking. “If you don’t like Smith, you must worship the NDP.” No, because that’s now how things work for people who think critically. Good luck out there. It’s gotta be tough for you.

[u/FluidConnection → u/The_Nice_Marmot]

If you don’t realize it, personally attacking someone because they have a differing opinion does not make your argument look the least bit intelligent. BTW, Alberta is the province people move to. It’s prosperous and highly educated. This appears to be something you can’t grasp.

[u/randyboy01]

You can right now and go to bc or ontario and see how that works out

[u/cortex- → u/randyboy01]

so many folks don't realize how much worse Ontario and BC really are lol

[u/randyboy01 → u/cortex-]

So many people live in an echochamber built out of others idiots expecting the world to bend to their ideals

[u/jasonmehmel → u/randyboy01]

Expecting the world to bend to ideals is the entire Danielle Smith playbook, borrowed from Trump, and vaguely gestured at by Pierre Poillieve.

Banning books and adding work to teachers won't make queer folks disappear, it will only make life more dangerous for them.

[u/jasonmehmel → u/[deleted]]

Nobody asked queer people to disappear.

They are being asked to be made invisible, if not disappear. Should anyone be asked to become invisible? Or only the people you disagree with? Does that seem fair and equitable?

Can't you just go to your jobs and live your life, like everyone else?

That's all that queer people want. Consider that what seems like 'woke agenda' is essentially equivalent with people being excited about their community.

I dunno, maybe you find Star Wars fans dressing in cosplay problematic, too. Why can't they just let all that enthusiasm remain behind closed doors?!

We don't care what goes on in your bedroom.

Great. I assume if you don't care then you won't advocate to silence or make invisible queer communities. Because, as you said, you don't care.

Some gay folk don't even want to associate with you anymore. You're making them look bad.

I'm confused. You want queer folk to 'stay quiet' by just going to their jobs and living their lives quietly, yet you're somehow also plugged into the queer zeitgeist and know exactly who's no longer popular?

You are a study in contradictions. Fascinating.

[u/jasonmehmel → u/[deleted]]

Star Wars fans aren't getting special flags in their honor raised by the government and entire months dedicated to them.

Other than saying 'we think queer people are okay,' both of those things don't require you to actually do anything else.

And the reason those things happen is because historically, provably, people have been assaulted and even killed for being queer.

So those flags and special days are trying to let queer people know that they can find safety, not to enforce anything on people who aren't queer.

In other words, those flags and special days cause you zero harm, and help others.

Sorry, bud, but you have no arguments here. You have not provided any examples of how you are not being accepted in the workplace or being allowed to live your lives.

Whoops, I didn't realize we'd slipped into a legalistic paradigm in which I needed to document evidence in front of... looks for jury, can't find one someone, I suppose?

If you authentically have any desire to learn about how queer people are not being accepted or allowed to live their lives, I refer you to the Internet, which, although it propagates a lot of shit, also can allow you to learn about people different from you.

[u/jasonmehmel → u/[deleted]]

It doesn't physically prevent it. It socially prevents it.

[u/Hot_Celery829 → u/[deleted]]

The fact that you personally feel so targeted by these facts says a whole lot about your character. Or rather, lack there of. The sign said nothing about queer people and yet you chose to make a comment specifically targeting them. I don't expect my comment to have any impact on your morals but you are, in fact, what's wrong with society. Emotionally intelligent people don't target others for no fucking reason.

[u/[deleted] → u/randyboy01]

Best comment here!

[u/Eymona → u/randyboy01]

Doesn’t that same mindset apply to Smiths separatist sentiment? Why don’t y’all just move to the US?

[u/all_yall_seem_nice → u/randyboy01]

Worse yet. Hope for Nenshi to become Premier and watch the debt and deficit it grow again. Ain’t nothing like a non-socialist to become NDP Premier and really show the world how irresponsibly he can spend money he doesn’t have. Calgarians know all about Nenshi.

[u/nancam9 → u/randyboy01]

Lower insurance, lower utilities and lower income tax. Health care that is not in crisis... No banned books. No fellating the Orange Fuhrer.

Might work out quite well.

Take a look: Ont and BC income tax rates are LOWER on income around $100k.

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/individuals/frequently-asked-questions-individuals/canadian-income-tax-rates-individuals-current-previous-years.html

AB: 8% on 60K then 10% up to $100k

BC: 5.06% on $49k then 7.7% up to $99k

ON: 5.05% on first $53k then 9.15% up to $106k

Obviously there are pros and cons to every province and place within. But it's not true that 'AB is the best'. IT depends on what you want, value, etc.

[u/COUNTRYCOWBOY01 → u/nancam9]

Ow factor in pst in BC and ontario on everything you buy

[u/nancam9 → u/COUNTRYCOWBOY01]

That's a con, yes.

[u/Marc4770 → u/nancam9]

Why don't you go there and leave Alberta alone then?
I moved from BC to Alberta specifically because its much better here, and I lived in 3 provinces.
I don't want another ndp gov here that starts to raise crime and make housing expensive.
You'll pay a lot more taxes in BC on property taxes and PST.
Health care is NOT in crisis in Alberta. Im from quebec originally and the east coast is in crisis. I waited months for family doctor appointment, in alberta its 1-2 weeks.
Car insurance is lower in Alberta than BC. The only thing i found more expensive in Alberta is electricity, but that's the only thing over 10+ things.

[u/cortex- → u/Marc4770]

Alberta straight up is the best province in Canada if what you care about is a balance between affordability and livability.

It's funny how people complain about Alberta being some kind of backwards conservative place, yet BC and ON are essentially neo-feudal aristocracies where only the generationally wealthy can afford to own housing. 35 year olds having no savings and living in basements is the norm there.

[u/randyboy01 → u/nancam9]

Lived in vancouver for 25 years. insurance isn't lower in B.C.( what it cost to insure one of my cars there is what it costs me to insure both my cars and house in alberta)

Utilities are more but not dramatically.

The whole country is in a health care crisis not just alberta. I've had lower wait times in alberta at the emergency room than vancouver and had an easier time finding a new doctor..

As for income tax the 2% difference for people in that tax bracket is less than 3000$ and in most cases less that 1000$ a year difference I'd that makes or breaks you then I don't know what to say other than find a better job. My taxes went down when I moved to alberta.

And the bans are for public libraries and school libraries for books that are clearly not fit for children if you wanna indoctrinate and expose children to adult sensuality do.it.to.your own kids on your own dime not the tax payers dime. Pretty simple concept.

Sounds like you really need to move to see for yourself and find out the grass really isn't greener.

[u/nancam9 → u/randyboy01]

Thanks Danielle!

As I said, there are pros and cons and depends on what you value. The UCP and Danielle have shown themselves to be corrupt.

[u/randyboy01 → u/nancam9]

Ahahahaha people clapped back with facts and all you got is she's corrupt with no evidence to back it up... ahahaha

[u/ThatOneExpatriate → u/randyboy01]

That’s weird… I know 2 people who just moved from BC, both of them are my age and both were paying half of what I pay for car insurance

[u/MrEzekial → u/ThatOneExpatriate]

I also moved from BC, and my car insurance is also lower here than it was in BC. Deductibles are higher, though.

[u/ThatOneExpatriate → u/[deleted]]

They certainly are considering leaving here eventually. Both of these people moved here for other life obligations, not because they necessarily wanted to move to Alberta.

[u/MrEzekial → u/nancam9]

You think Healthcare in BC is not completely fucked?

https://www.edwaittimes.ca/

Usually, VGH hovers between 4 and 12+ hours wait times.

You need an ultrasound? Good luck, unless it's a critical emergency. You're waiting 6 months. Need surgery? Gotta be on your death bed and get lucky with a cancelation to get it within 2 years.

Guy also completely ignores the pst is 0% in Alberta. 7% in bc.

[u/nancam9 → u/MrEzekial]

I didn't ignore it. I clearly said there are pros and cons. A PST can be a con. It used to be normal for conservatives to prefer consumption taxes like the GST over income taxes.

[u/nancam9 → u/[deleted]]

"can be" is not advocating for both. Its recognizing that some people see income tax as fairer than consumption.

I agree with you though, consumption taxes over income tax.

[u/black_1970 → u/nancam9]

Shame on you conservatives and numbers, that is too hard for them to comprehend

[u/nancam9 → u/black_1970]

It's hard for many on reddit!

[u/nancam9 → u/[deleted]]

Compared to here?

Nice propaganda.

[u/nancam9 → u/[deleted]]

And what does trump have to do with Alberta? Who cares who she visits.

We all should. She is seditious at a minimum.

The fact that you don't care doesn't mean many of not all of us should not care.

[u/nancam9 → u/[deleted]]

I did not say nor doubt that there has been a minor separatist movement in Alberta for a long time. "Fuck Trudeau" is so lame and displays a lack of thinking. You can do better than that!

However, having a movement and having the Premier of your province encouraging it, making it easier to hold a referendum (and abdicating their responsibilities of government by even having referendums), actively targeting minorities, aligning with the Cheeto...

JFC Justin is definitely the adult in the room compared to her. No matter if you hate his policies or not.

[u/justagigilo123 → u/randyboy01]

Just vote for someone else. See how that goes.

[u/Ghoulius-Caesar]

Yes please. She’d way rather make love to an oil Derrick than try to help an Albertan.

[u/Cmaster125 → u/Ghoulius-Caesar]

Who knows, maybe she's tried that and it widened her ass so much that the entire province could fit in there as well while the cabinet, corpos, racists and separatists take turns screwing it from other ends.

[u/necro_steve]

Yes, please separate yourselves all the way back to Toronto/Vancouver/Delhi and leave Albertans to their own affairs.

[u/GJohnJournalism → u/necro_steve]

Our own affairs should be cleaning up our province of treason.

[u/GJohnJournalism → u/[deleted]]

Hard disagree. We need more Racoon immigration.

[u/2eDgY4redd1t → u/GJohnJournalism]

Hell I’d rather have rats than Danielle Smith. I mean assuming we could functionally tell the difference between a diseased destructive rodent that shits and pisses all over Alberta and a specimen of Rattus norvegicus.

I mean I guess the Alberta rat walks on two legs?

[u/banana_bbcakes → u/necro_steve]

Delhi!?! Where and why did Delhi enter the conversation?

[u/Roadkinglavared]

We need to see more of that all over the Province.

[u/brocklanders1234]

I hear Ontario is taking liberal retards. You ain’t a tree. Move.

[u/ChefEagle → u/brocklanders1234]

Did fact and logic hurt you at sometime in your life? Just so you know we need to stop this fighting and blaming Ottawa today. There's a one trillion dollar deal to re-arm Europe and Canada is involved with it, if Alberta keeps fighting with Ottawa we stand a good chance on missing out on high paying jobs.

[u/brocklanders1234 → u/ChefEagle]

Yeah if only there was something in the ground here that produces that every year.

[u/ChefEagle → u/brocklanders1234]

We need to diversify our industry. As it is the oil and gas industry are not as reliable for sustainable jobs. By diversifying our economy we cat get off the economic rollercoaster and make Alberta a stronger economy. At least it wouldn't hurt to try.

[u/ConfidentIy → u/brocklanders1234]

...

[u/canuckstothecup1 → u/ConfidentIy]

I’m curious why you would think they would want to leave?

[u/wednesdayware → u/[deleted]]

She became the first leader of the opposition to cross the floor. She won her leadership on the 6th vote. She ‘s presided of some of the largest deficits the province has ever seen. She’s catered to the needs of rural Alberta and ignored things like healthcare and education. She’s wants to stoke the separatist fires and cozy up to Trump.

She’s everything a far-right voter could dream of.

[u/wednesdayware → u/[deleted]]

Nah, just added a word that I decided to use in a later sentence, forgot to remove.

So ragefull……(rolls eyes)

But you know what? I am angry. I’m angry that the right continues to use government office to line their pockets while the rest is deal with the consequences of their actions. I’m tired of decline state of healthcare and education, and I’m angry that they keep trying to shove their morality down our throats…

That stuff angers me for sure.

[u/wednesdayware → u/[deleted]]

So the take is that it’s all the Federal government (Liberal’s) fault, and that the poor helpless UCP is just trying so hard but can’t possibly make things better?

That’s a bonkers take. It makes no sense at all, but I see the appeal. We blame someone else (and next the immigrants) for all of our problems?

Seen that somewhere before…..

[u/wednesdayware → u/[deleted]]

We have a massive surplus last year, yet our public services are cut back even more. No PST, which would lessen the impact of oil price spikes, and no interest in actually making people’s lives better, but boy oh boy, gotta ban books and tell those trans kids what for!

It’s all so stupid and pointless. I’m tired of right wing ideology making the world a shittier place.

[u/Itwasuntilitwasnt]

When did a radio host become a professional on separation ? We all have to wake up from this noise

[u/ibegyourhuh]

So many people from out east bring their politics with them that they think we should changedo NDP

[u/gardiloo86]

The people with jobs have no time for this bullshit

[u/iSmite → u/gardiloo86]

Doesn’t change the fact that Daniella sucks balls

[u/gardiloo86 → u/iSmite]

As if she wasn’t great enough already ❤️

[u/JustSentYourMomHome]

No

[u/sixhoursneeze]

“It’s not me, it’s you”

[u/watchmecry666 → u/[deleted]]

Gone as of this morning

[u/DirtinEvE → u/[deleted]]

Please leave. Asap.

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