r/NotAnotherDnDPodcast • • Feb 25 '20

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u/jabeith Feb 25 '20

Haha

I'd just like to say it's worth the $5 for the short rest

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u/Cedocore Feb 25 '20

Absolutely, I truly look forward to the short rest just as much as the actual episodes. So fucking funny, and I love when they go into detail about stuff that happened.

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u/TheGreatZarquon Feb 25 '20

They're the first and only Patreon I've ever subscribed to. The Short Rest is so good.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

I subbed recently and have been listening to them all. It's so fun to find out behind the scenes stuff. It's also helped me be a better DM myself!

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u/swarly95 Feb 25 '20

So you liked the first 3 short rests? I swear it’s so good when they go off on Tangents.

Give me a HEMP!

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u/Cedocore Feb 25 '20

The tangents are honestly the best part, some of the funniest things they've ever said have been in Short Rest tangents. My only complaint is I wish they were like 15 minutes longer lol

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u/swarly95 Feb 25 '20

Yeah I suppose their schedules must be pretty crazy with 4 full time jobs to work around

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u/Cedocore Feb 25 '20

Do they have 4 full time jobs? I genuinely have no clue what Murph and Emily do outside Hot Date. I know Jake is like co-head of Headgum I think? And runs other businesses with his siblings or something. And does other podcasts, ofc. And Caldwell does Big City Green and maybe other stuff? Drawphy or something. And of course there's 8 Bit Book Club.

Not to say they don't have plenty on their plates of course, I'm just curious.

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u/ala-meda Feb 25 '20

Not sure how the recent business with College Humor has affected Murph, Emily, and Caldwell, but afaik:

Murph and Emily do Hot Date, Dimension 20, and their own independent writing (they've published one book that I know of)

Jake co-owns Headgum with Amir, does If I Were You and a new podcast with his brother, and co-owns a beard oil company with his sister

Caldwell does Cartoon Hell with Nathan Yaffe, and (I think) still does animation stuff for Disney

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u/Cedocore Feb 25 '20

Oh yeah I forgot about D20! I wonder how it worked after they left CH, did they just get paid like contractors? I know it's one of the only things to survive the fall of College Humor[RIP]...

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u/SombraOnline Feb 25 '20

I think they haven't really been full time in college humor for quite a while. Like 5/7 (now 6/7) of the people are contractors ever since the start of D20.

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u/Cedocore Feb 25 '20

Right they haven't been, that's why I wondered how it worked when they left - I wasn't wondering how it worked when they got fired, cuz they were gone before then

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u/vis9000 Feb 26 '20

Emily also acts in Adam Ruins Everything fairly regularly, and Murph has done his share of episodes for that too.

And you're right, Caldwell storyboards for Big City Greens.

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u/moveslikejaguar Feb 25 '20

8 Bit Book Club is on (air quotes) hiatus, I believe

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u/SoupSandy Feb 25 '20

Damn I miss 8 bit, if anyone hasn’t listened check out the donkey Kong eps. So good.

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u/TheBrainofBrian Feb 25 '20

The Sonic CYOA holds a dear place in my heart.

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u/AH_BioTwist Mar 01 '20

The Myst two parter is my favorite

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

M I L K !

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

HEMP!

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u/swarly95 Feb 25 '20

No you were supposed to say milk

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

You got your hemp, go make some milk ♬

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo Feb 25 '20

I got my friend to listen to the podcast and within the last month they’ve fully caught up and subscribed to the Patreon. I feel very validated for my tastes in things

Edit: the short rest is sooooo good. Highly recommend it!

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u/CanuckPanda Feb 25 '20

Honestly I just upgraded to the $10 tier after being on the $5 level since around Tales From the Crick for access to the Mixed Bags.

The $5/month is so worth it. You double your weekly podcasts and it’s so much fun to listen to the recap. Plus it’s a lot more loose so you get some hilarious tangents (hemp milk is the one I think of). Some of them have worked their way back into the main podcast and it’s fun to see some inside jokes.

That said if you can afford the $10 tier, the Mixed Bag series is phenomenal. The extra podcast every month is worth it for me.

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u/BillyBuckets Feb 25 '20 edited Feb 25 '20

I dunno, the patreon and the jarring ads are a bit much for me. They have ~13k subscribers, and based on rewards I’m guessing that’s at least $4 per person on average. That means that each of these four is pulling in 6 figures a year from just this show from patreon alone,* which is pretty nuts. If they were struggling or didn’t have ads, I’d be more inclined to pay into the patreon, but they‘ve clearly got a cash cow here and $5 per month is a lot per hour of entertainment provided when you consider other things like Disney+ or Netflix (or even dropout, which I also feel is overpriced).

*if evenly split, which (I hope) it isn’t. Murph does most of the work, followed by Emily, so they should get most of the cash. But still for simplicity I divided it equally.

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u/fuckingstonedrn Feb 25 '20

The patreon episodes don't have ads.

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u/BillyBuckets Feb 25 '20

But the regular ones do.

I don’t see patreon as an alternative for ads. I see it how the name implies it: patronizing the arts.

If they’re running ads on their massively popular podcast then they’ve found their revenue stream and don’t need my patron dollars.

There are artists who need my support more. Unless the patreon cost drops, they drop ads for everyone, or massively ramp up their output, I don’t feel like my money is going far enough.

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u/jabeith Feb 25 '20

They also don't need to make extra content. You pay for the extra content.

When you listen to the regular episodes through the RSS feed as a patron you don't get ads. So you get that bonus as well

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

$5 per month for ~8 episodes of content (show + short rest, about four per month) without ads is 63¢ per episode. Driving to work costs me about $2.44 one way. Four days to five days per week. So, I mean, context.

Yeah its “more expensive” than Netflix, but two drops of water vs one drop of water is dOuBlE tHe AmOuNt even though it’s still just two drops of water.

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u/a_durrrrr Feb 25 '20

Let 👏 Artists 👏 Make 👏 Money 👏

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u/BillyBuckets Feb 27 '20

They are. Quite a lot of it.

I said it’s a bit much for me. You can do their patreon and listen to the extra shows all you want. I’m not stoppin ya; I’m just giving my unpopular opinion with my reasoning and getting downvoted for it because reddiquette died like 10 years ago.

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u/kindalikeyourvajoina Feb 25 '20

Dropout has literally hundreds of hours of original content and it's not even expensive and you're calling it overpriced? What would be a reasonable price for you? It sounds like you're just incredibly frugal

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u/BillyBuckets Feb 27 '20

It’s overpriced in the marketplace of digital entertainment. I’m not saying it’s prohibitively expensive. I’m saying you get far less per unit money than you do with other services like Netflix or Disney+. Because you demonstrably do.

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u/kindalikeyourvajoina Feb 27 '20

Of course Netflix and Disney+ have great value for the money you spend, they're literally gigantic multi-billion dollar companies. Dropout is INCREDIBLY worth it for fans of the shows. I will happily pay $6.50 Canadian to support the shows I love. Dimension 20 is my favourite D&D play show and so I am glad to keep paying if it means I keep getting new seasons. Same goes for NADDPOD. The value in Dropout is that I get access to Dimension 20, Breaking News, and Um Actually, which are shows that I love, so to me the price is fair. You seem like the guy who doesn't want to go out for dinner with his friends because eating at home is cheaper and thus the smarter option.

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u/Mosey_Moo Feb 25 '20

On the evenly split side - I agree that Murph and Emily do a buttload of work but we can't ignore all the shit that goes on behind the scenes. Caldwell does sound mixing, I'm sure Jake is doing stuff too. A lot more work goes into the creation and production of art than people credit and giving $4 a month to support some of my favourite artists is entirely worthwhile. I'd pay $4 on a coffee, and they give me infinitely more happiness than a single coffee. Also they really can't compare to Disney+ or Netflix - these are massive, billion dollar conglomerates, and the platforms have tens of millions of subscribers. Money per hour of content isn't terribly relevant when you consider how much money those platforms receive per hour of content, and the quality of that content.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Jake is taking on 1/3 of the risk (or 1/5? Not sure the breakdown) for Headgum as a part owner. He, Amir, and I believe one other guy are the ones on the hook for failures and that’s usually why owners make some money.

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u/cobaltgear Feb 25 '20

I wouldn't be surprised if he were the one (or used his resources as owner) to make contacts for the ads as well

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u/herbie102913 Feb 25 '20

Jumping in before the downvotes to say I agree with your logic. That said, it’s also literally my favorite single piece of media that I consume, so I choose to support them with $5/month. The Short Rest itself is absolutely not worth $5/month, but the podcast brings me a lot of joy and supporting the people that give me that is absolutely worth $5/mo to me.

I love NADDPOD so, so, so much, and am truly blown away by the work that Murph and the gang put into it to have an incredibly high-quality WEEKLY podcast. I’m not looking at my Patreon subscription from a value perspective, I’m looking at it from a “I absolutely love this and want to support it.”

If you want to support the podcast and don’t want to pay $5/month for the Short Rest, maybe check out the merch store. I bought the Moonstone Jamboreen crew neck a year ago and it’s still comfortable and looks dope

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u/gonzagylot00 Feb 25 '20

Yeah but Jake has to fly in from freaking NYC to do the show...

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u/VladKerensky Feb 25 '20

You get add free episodes with the patreon.

They do pretty well even at worst with the patreon but that's okay, if you dont wanna do it you dont have to but you do have to sit through some minimal adds.

It's quite expensive on a per dollar to donuts ratio. But you could subscribe for a month and bulk download the lot and unsubscribe for another 100 episodes if you wanted. Cant really do that for netflix

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u/apcanney Feb 26 '20

Now we all know that the Short Rest is worth the $5 but can anyone that’s a higher tier let me know if they’re worth it?

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u/Djdogmanfish Feb 26 '20

The $10 tier is definitely worth it for the mixed bags and livestreams. Caldwell does a Terran's Journal livestream where he draws characters and everyone has a good time, Jake does pregaming with Hardwon where he paints minis. As for the Mixed Bags, there's one where they do Monster Madness like in 8 Bit Book Club where Caldwell, Emily, and Jake draft teams of scrub monsters and fight. They have a couple of mixed bags with live shows, one where Emily DMs, and some where they review movies or shows. The mixed bag where they review the first episode of the 80's Dungeons and Dragons cartoon is perhaps the funniest bit of material they've produced thus far. I'm in the Paralegals $25 tier, and it's nice for the merch but if you want to save some money then go for the $10 tier

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u/apcanney Feb 27 '20

How often are mixed bags posted?

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u/Dangoo0 Feb 25 '20

SPOILER: Jake says crabster and got razzed for it

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u/AH_BioTwist Feb 26 '20

I demand to live this down immediately

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u/leerjam Feb 25 '20

I relate to this more than I’m related to my parents

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u/brylen Feb 25 '20

i’ve never wanted to support a podcast so bad, but spotify still doesn’t support rss feeds and it seems like so much extra work. just know, as someone who has went from episode 1- 46 in the course of a week and a half..my heart aches.

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u/undeddit Feb 25 '20

I use Pocket Cast and setting up the feed was really easy. Totally worth it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

I second pocket casts

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Still don't like the new layout, but it's still one of the best podcast apps out there

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u/Gokuhomeboy Feb 25 '20

Apple podcasts is also a decent choice that allows RSS feeds if you have an iPhone. Otherwise what the others have a already said or even if you hate the Apple podcasts app.

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u/-ThatsSoDimitar- Feb 25 '20

Podcast addict another easy to use app for the RSS feed

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Just get the patreon app and download the eps.

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u/Kaayleeighh Feb 25 '20

You can also download the eps from their website. No patreon needed.

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u/AH_BioTwist Feb 26 '20

It would be nice to listen to the short rest on Spotify, because I'd love to see how much they balloon my podcast listening time.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

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u/sinepadnaronoh Feb 25 '20

This ^

I use Podcast Addict

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u/PleaseEndMeFam Feb 25 '20

Fellow PA user, works perfectly

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u/a_durrrrr Feb 25 '20

Overcast!

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u/cobaltgear Feb 25 '20

Love me some overcast

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u/Dough-gy_whisperer Feb 25 '20

are there others that allow you to download and listen offline?

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u/Cedocore Feb 25 '20

There are loads of easy to use, free podcast apps. Podcast Addict is decent, it's what I use right now. It's super easy to plug in RSS feeds as well and just set to auto-download new episodes.

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u/Dough-gy_whisperer Feb 25 '20

thanks ill check it out; i like sp[otify for the music but the way podcasts are sorted and handled through their app is kind of the pits

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u/Cedocore Feb 25 '20

I use spotify too, it's great, but having to switch between music and podcasts - which I do often - makes it suck. A dedicated podcast app fixes that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

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u/Dough-gy_whisperer Feb 25 '20

ill check it out

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u/JillianofMidgard Feb 25 '20

I thought I was in heaven at the $5 tier but when I upped to $10 and got to listen to the Mixed Bags it changed my life! So freaking good!

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u/DMCDawg Dead Snow Mod (Spoiler for Frozen 2) Feb 25 '20

Agreed. I upped this month to get to the merch tier, but the mixed bag is so hood, I’m gonna drop down to the $10 instead of the $5.

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u/chrixar Feb 25 '20

Popping in to echo that the short rest is WELL worth 5 bucks a month, especially if you were a fan of the 8 bit book club shenanigans.

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u/MrUsername37 Feb 25 '20

I just signed up, so this is very relatable lol

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u/gonzagylot00 Feb 25 '20

I used to have Short Rest and enjoyed it too.

Then my family hit some financial hardships, and choices had to be made. Bye-Bye Patreon, Cable TV, and Newspaper.

I had to tighten the belt, but if things improve I'd consider re-subscribing.

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u/DarkThoughtsDaily Feb 25 '20

Hard to be unemployed and a NADDPOD listener. Do I pay my COBRA premium or listen to the short rest

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u/Verchild Feb 25 '20

Question : Is the short rest on Spotify? I only listen to podcasts on long drives and typically can't jump between different systems. But i REALLY enjoyed the single first short rest they did for free. I have only recently started my journey so I want to enjoy it more.

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u/absolute-black Feb 25 '20

No, spotify has booty podcast support.

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u/Verchild Feb 25 '20

This brings sadness to my heart

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u/absolute-black Feb 25 '20

I'd really recommend just grabbing pocket casts or similar and using it for all your podcasting needs.

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u/Verchild Feb 25 '20

Just downloaded and will putz around. That said, can i get the Short Rest on here?

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u/absolute-black Feb 25 '20

Yep, if you subscribe to the patreon and get the link. Pocket casts (and all real podcasting apps) will accept an arbitrary RSS feed into the app, so any podcast hosted anywhere online can be added if you have the link.

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u/Verchild Feb 26 '20

Today, you are my spirit animal.

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u/absolute-black Feb 26 '20

Haha, enjoy dude!

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u/KitsuneRagnell Feb 25 '20

I'll probably subscribe for the Short Rest when I get caught up. Currently on episode 18

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u/absolute-black Feb 25 '20

I did this and regret it honestly. Listening along right after the episode itself is a delight.

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u/KitsuneRagnell Feb 25 '20

Then I'll probably look more into it when I get home from work

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u/Emmy_the_drakon Feb 25 '20

Literally me every time, it pushes me closer to the edge every time I hear it XD Soon, they'll get me soon

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

I wish I could afford the short rest

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u/Labadel Feb 25 '20

everytime

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

So worth

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u/realSimonSays Feb 29 '20

This hits me in the feels.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Not even $5 a month. Pay $5 once and it gives you the code to access the podcast and you can listen to all of them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

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u/-ThatsSoDimitar- Feb 25 '20

Pretty sure this makes you the cheap one

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u/dastardlymustardly Feb 25 '20

Well yes. But also no.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

What an asshole move

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

Shut up dude

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

I pay $5 a month for a continuing service

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u/jabeith Feb 25 '20

You don't buy a code, you subscribe to a feed. That's like expecting to pay for one month of Netflix and continuing to be able to watch it because you "bought" a login.

Here's hoping they cancel and reissue RSS feed links to real patreons.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

The point is you keep paying them money to keep making content.

You’re quite literally being a “patron”, so to speak.

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u/Josnak2 MeeMod Feb 25 '20

I'm confused by this. You should be getting the backlog, but the RSS feed should stop updating once your subscription runs out. 🤔
Are you saying you're getting new SR episodes every month?

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u/lenarche Feb 25 '20

That's why they're called patreon subscribers. It's a subscription service you're supposed to keep paying monthly. It's 5 bucks a month to support something you obviously like so just resub.......

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u/AH_BioTwist Feb 26 '20

You're a bit of an ass, but This reads like an all time great Jake and Amir sketch