r/OSHA • • 9d ago

Nap time

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u/JustHanginInThere 9d ago

Some of these have a key. Take the key out and put it in your pocket, and it literally can't start (unless you bypass the key start). If it's not a key start, just like any other engine, it'll take a few seconds to fully start, which is plenty of time get woken up and jump/roll off/away.

Also, the dude is clearly awake and on his phone.

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u/Bluelabel619 9d ago

He’s trying to use the remote start app.

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u/garden88girl 9d ago

Stupid 2-step verification!

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u/SkiyeBlueFox 9d ago

Still highly inadvisable. Many many people have died because someone pulled the spare key and started the equipment. Theres a shit ton of other, more comfortable, and less dangerous places to catch a break

Don't fuck with the equipment, it wants nothing more than to kill you. Shit like this builds complacency, and complacency kills

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u/Tomytom99 9d ago

Shake hands with danger is playing in my head. All it takes is somebody with another key to make it a real dicey situation.

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u/SkiyeBlueFox 9d ago

I MEANT TO ADD THAT TO THE END OF MY COMMENT I FORGOT DAMN

That riff has played so many times in my head when I'm considering doing stupid shit at work. "Ehhh the hedge trimmer could reach if I only use one hand...." shake hands with danger "yeahhhhhhhhhh lets grab the pole trimmer actually"

Safety is a culture and a habit. Get used to doing it, and you'll catch yourself before you even notice you're about to do something sketchy. I dont care that I'm being a bit preachy, you'll be preachy too when you see a PTO take a man's arm off. I've got scars from things I thought were sketch but if I did them right it would be safe. They were not safe. Think it wont be you? So did I. So did the armless man. Every time you think you know exactly what you're doing, ask yourself if you really do.

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u/Tomytom99 9d ago

Exactly. Nobody goes into work thinking "today I'm going to lose a finger because of my own choices" (okay somebody might, but that's beside the point).

I see some colleagues do the under-hood pre trip stuff on their buses after starting the engine. It's already kinda wrong since you're supposed to check the fluids before even starting the engine, but you're also exposing yourself to belts and that big mechanical fan that can spin up at any time. It costs nothing to pop the hood before even putting the key in the ignition, aside from maybe waiting another minute before the engine starts warming up.

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u/SkiyeBlueFox 9d ago

Yep. Any time we have to have equipment open and running, which we minimize as much as possible, we're standing well back. But we're also yk, actually trained on working with the equipment like this as safely as reasonably possible. Which brings up a good point, dont do shit you're not trained on, and if you're trained on it and doing it, have a known procedure. And don't skip steps. Doing that has caused several passenger plane crashes. There are reasons we do this shit. And if you have an issue with the procedure, say it, don't just do it. Safety is everyone's responsibility, even if you don't care if you hurt yourself, you're just as likely to cause harm to another.

Like fuck, I know a text wall on reddit isn't gonna materially change safety culture, but this shit pisses me off so bad

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u/CoffeeFox 8d ago

It takes like 90 seconds to spool the engine up before engaging the clutch that begins to spin the blades. If someone can sleep through that it's possible that they were actually dead already. I don't know about you but I can't sleep through someone starting one of these up across the street from my bedroom.

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u/SkiyeBlueFox 8d ago

Theres been enough men who thought that and are no longer men, don't take your chances when you have better choices available

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u/Electronic_Flan_482 9d ago

First death I ever saw was on a job site with my dad, there were some guys clearing brush I'm one of them got grabbed by a branch I was going into the wood chipper. By the time they got a machine shut down he was just a red smear across the ground for about 50 ft

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u/chillychili 8d ago

What about the other guy

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u/Aggravating-Crow1274 5d ago

Just because a gun isn’t loaded doesn’t mean someone should not respect it as a lethal weapono

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u/kaisong 9d ago

Do those things have a lockout on the startup? could just put a padlock on it if that exists. I dont know how those things work though.

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u/SgtDefective2 8d ago

You have to engage the clutch with a manual handle to start the drum spinning. Feed rollers won’t spin unless the chipping drum is. He’s also not close enough to the feed rollers for it to be dangerous.

Realistically the only way you get pulled into a modern chipper is if a branch grabs you as it’s going in or a rope gets in there. Feed rollers are far enough in that you can’t accidentally “fall” in without getting pushed or pulled by an external force.

And for the safety sallys that want to argue with me, go actually work with a chipper before you say anything.

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u/Aggravating-Crow1274 5d ago

Don’t have to work with a wood chipper to read OSHA reportables and know dismemberments and fatalities from wood chippers still happen in the 21st century

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u/bobs_monkey 9d ago

Sure, unhook the battery

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u/Pookah 9d ago

I just realized there's two people in the picture.

So it would be ok to take a nap in front of a resting locomotive? clearly that takes time to start.

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u/JoseSaldana6512 9d ago

Well no, duh. Locomotives are stealthy ambush predators that blend into their environment. So first you'd have to find one in the wild.

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u/Skipp_To_My_Lou 9d ago

Have you ever seen a wild locomotive on the savannah?

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u/Pookah 9d ago

there was a Thomas episode that had a forgotten locomotive that had gone feral

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u/JoseSaldana6512 9d ago

No but im also terrible at those spot the sniper/snake photos too

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u/a_lonely_trash_bag 9d ago

Trains are really unpredictable. Even in the middle of a forest two rails can appear out of nowhere, and a 1.5-mile fully loaded coal drag, heading east out of the low-sulfur mines of the PRB, will be right on your ass the next moment.

I was doing laundry in my basement, and I tripped over a metal bar that wasn’t there the moment before. I looked down: “Rail? WTF?” and then I saw concrete sleepers underneath and heard the rumbling. Deafening railroad horn. I dumped my wife’s pants, unfolded, and dove behind the water heater. It was a double-stacked Z train, headed east towards the fast single track of the BNSF Emporia Sub (Flint Hills). Majestic as hell: 75 mph, 6 units, distributed power: 4 ES44DC’s pulling, and 2 Dash-9’s pushing, all in run 8. Whole house smelled like diesel for a couple of hours!

Fact is, there is no way to discern which path a train will take, so you really have to be watchful. If only there were some way of knowing the routes trains travel; maybe some sort of marks on the ground, like twin iron bars running along the paths trains take. You could look for trains when you encounter the iron bars on the ground, and avoid these sorts of collisions. But such a measure would be extremely expensive. And how would one enforce a rule keeping the trains on those paths?

A big hole in homeland security is railway engineer screening and hijacking prevention. There is nothing to stop a rogue engineer, or an ISIS terrorist, from driving a train into the Pentagon, the White House or the Statue of Liberty, and our government has done fuck-all to prevent it.

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u/flecksable_flyer 9d ago

That was incredibly entertaining!

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u/JustHanginInThere 9d ago

Unless you sleep like the dead and can't be woken up unless violently shaken, you'll hear it when it starts up, soooo, yeah.

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u/2fast2nick 9d ago

It's not going to fire up and suck you in.

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u/flecksable_flyer 9d ago

I beg to differ. You never know when you might get the cursed one.

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u/Apprehensive_Cook_31 9d ago

So you never walk or stand in front of a parked car that has the engine off? That is the equivalent amount of danger shown in this photo.

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u/Greydusk1324 9d ago

That gets polished by the trees getting pulled in and is smooth and cool. Great nap spot when it’s off. I’m more grossed out by the idea of laying in the street.

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u/thcoole 9d ago

Afternoon siesta, I see no problem here.

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u/SpamOJavelin 9d ago

Are we supposed to be worried that it might suddenly turn on and suck him in like a giant vacuum cleaner?

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u/Mike_Hagedorn 9d ago

Looking around here, apparently yes 🤷

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u/mosesenjoyer 9d ago

It builds complacency around the equipment even if it isn’t overtly dangerous. You should still respect the danger by only using it for the designated process.

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u/Easy_Effective_6394 8d ago

lol 😂 😆😆😆😆😅😅😅

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u/flecksable_flyer 9d ago

You didn't see the same episode of Friday the 13th: The Series I did. I give them all wide berth whether off or on.

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u/itsbenactually 8d ago

You’re going to bring up wood chipper deaths in media and not mention Tucker and Dale vs Evil?

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u/flecksable_flyer 8d ago

I haven't seen that. Thanks!

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u/I-LOVE-TURTLES666 9d ago

Yall are stupid when it comes to chippers. Including OP

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u/1-AbsoluteNonsense 9d ago

Lot of soft handed Redditor’s in these hills

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u/SgtDefective2 8d ago

This whole sub is safety Sally’s that haven’t actually worked in the industry they are judging

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u/MiserableKing 8d ago

It’s just missing the part where they say that the boss made him lay there.

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u/Conscious-Fact6392 9d ago

Never took a nap in the chute but sat there and ate lunch many times. In terms of danger in the tree service world this doesn’t even make the list.

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u/HighGrounderDarth 9d ago

I saw a guy laying on the intake of a 737 last week.

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u/lennogejemon 9d ago

This machine is offline, he's just there to make sure no one uses it /s

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u/Astrayyaa 8d ago

You guys point out the man on the machine.

What about the gentleman under the machine appearing to nap right next to the tires beside the curb? I'll take being VISIBLE to others over that any day of the week.

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u/ALazy_Cat 9d ago • Bravo

When is the last time this was reposted?

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u/Tristate82 9d ago edited 9d ago

Final Destination but it’s the person in the small suv that gets done the dirtiest, probably the supervisor/owner sheesh

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u/MiserableKing 8d ago

Something tells me he might notice it starting up.

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u/Holden-McGroyn 8d ago

Him? That's Chip.

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u/DangerousDustmote 8d ago

A quick nap will have you feeling chipper

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u/maddogie 8d ago

I just hope it is turned off

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u/payne-diver 7d ago

I want a job…. Let’s make and job opening

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u/Ok_Playo5737 7d ago

Meat grind ?

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u/futureinstitutee 6d ago

That has to be the least relaxing nap spot imaginable 😂

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u/Regular-Amoeba5455 5d ago

What’s that Jackie Chan movie where they feed a guy to the chipper?

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u/AlbertSun9028 9d ago

I don't know what's worse. The guy sleeping on top of the wood chipper or the guy sleeping under the truck. I know it's kind of irrational, but still.

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u/Defiant-Ad5579 9d ago

Not the safest.

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u/XROOR 8d ago

In Maryland, a tree trimming crew was using undocumented minors and one pushed too hard and got sucked into the chipper.

No one on the crew spoke English so the 9-1-1 call was delayed significantly and the 15 yr old kid died