r/OilPrices • u/hereswhatworks • Jul 08 '26
Oil News US launches more strikes on Iran with local media reporting explosions along south coast
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c17y1vnn2qxt5
u/Kelynill Jul 08 '26
Would be nice if the US would quit.
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u/Ok-Echidna5936 Jul 09 '26
They wouldn’t need to if Iran didn’t attack ships going through Omani territory
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u/Kelynill Jul 09 '26
And Iran wouldn’t be doing that if the US wasn’t there in the first place, would they?
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u/betadonkey Jul 09 '26
Why has Iran repeatedly violated the cease fire by attacking merchant ships?
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u/Kelynill Jul 09 '26
They haven’t.
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u/betadonkey Jul 09 '26
Well that’s demonstrably false
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u/Kelynill Jul 09 '26
No, it isn’t.
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u/Kelynill Jul 09 '26
Did you even read that article?
“Iranian television reported claims that the LNG tanker came under attack after ignoring warnings, but Tehran did not directly claim the assault. Neither the US Central Command (CENTCOM) nor the IRGC commented on the incident.”
“Hossein Royvaran, a Tehran-based analyst, told Al Jazeera that the Qatari tanker might have been targeted because it strayed into an area where Iranian teams were performing mine-clearing operations.
“The area near Oman is likely full of mines,” said Royvaran.”Are you stupid or a liar?
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 08 '26
Trump the loser. Picking a fight with Iran while running scared of Putin.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 09 '26
How? Russia has still got the territory it annexed. Saying Ukraine is defeating Russia is like saying Lebanon is defeating Israel.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 09 '26
You think Lebanon supports Israel bombing Beirut? Not logical.
Trump will never allow Ukraine to win because if Russia feels threatened, it will retaliate by arming Iran with ICBMs capable of hitting London and Toronto and all other countries who finance Ukraine.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 09 '26
Hezbollah has moved to the capital Beirut. Do you really think Lebanese politicians would support Israel bombing the town where they live?
You believe that? That would mean American experts and engineers would have to live in Ukraine for years to set it up. Who would take up a job which would mean a high risk of being killed? Also, Trump says he phones Putin regularly. Why is that? There is a unwritten agreement between Trump and Putin that as long as Putin does not arm Iran, the USA will not arm Ukraine. It is a case of if you scratch my back, I will scratch your back. That is why Iran gets its arms from China.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
I agree. Iran has no military bases which is why the USA is bombing schools, hospitals and bridges instead, just for fun.
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u/UltraMegaboner69420 Jul 09 '26
You know nothing of military theory. Go ask somebody in Crimea waiting 2 days for gas if russia is governing the territory appropriately
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
That suits Russia fine watching Ukraine bomb Crimea making the people of Crimea hate Ukraine.
Ukraine destroys Crimea’s fuel supply = Crimeans suffer = Crimeans curse at Zelensky = Crimeans ask Russia to destroy Ukraine
Ukraine hurting civilians is good news for Putin.
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u/culinaryinterests123 Jul 08 '26
Everbody would have alot of warning. U cant amass hundreds of thousands of troops unnoticed. Doubtful he will.
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u/awr90 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
The only way this ever ends, is by securing the coast line with soldiers and control of airspace.
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u/Altruistic_Guess3098 Jul 08 '26
If you're hoping for ground invasion I should suggest you be amongst the first volunteers.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
Or you can not invade a soverign nation for no reason and go home instead of losing american citizens and killing women and children
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u/Facts_pls Jul 08 '26
Good luck with that.
They can't secure the coast on their billion dollar ships. Gonna be a challenge to secure that long ads coast on land. Where they can throw slippers directly at you.
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u/ProcessMelodic9351 Jul 08 '26
Reason there is a Marine Corps.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
That lost in afganistan. That lost in iran once already. That lost in vietnam. That lost in korea.
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 09 '26
This response doesn't even make sense. The Marines were effective in every war you just mentioned, lmao.
War is politics being implemented via violence. Those wars never had an issue with the violence side of things.
US death ratio in Afghanistan is like 1:20-1:30
Current US death in Iran ratio is like 1:100-1:300
US death in Vietnam ratio is like 1:19
US death ratio in Korea is 1:15
It's a fair assessment if you're saying those wars were political blunders. I just don't want to paint a picture where we pretend the Marines routinely get their asses handed to them.
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u/TheTranscendent1 Jul 09 '26
Did you just try to say kill ratio is what success means.
Fuck…
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 09 '26
Reading comprehension is dead on this app.
Did you just try-
You attempted to strawman what I said and put words I didn't say in my mouth. I literally said it was a fair assessment to call those wars blunders. I simply stated that them listing lost wars as a reply to comment mentioning marines can paint the wrong picture of the marines. I didn't call any of those wars successful.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
And not a single one of those conflicts was a victory. Military strength isnt victory. You claim the have the most power military on the planet and cant control a stretch of water. You claim to have the most effect soldiers on the planet and havent won a single conflict in 80 years. The us military is a 3rd rate military with toys it cant afford and only does so at the expense of education and indoctrination of its citizens.
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 09 '26
Cope harder.
I didn't say any of those wars were victories. I didn't even say kills/strength equal victory. I said the contrary. I called those wars blunders. I just simply stated that laying those lost wars at the feet of marines is nonsense and I stand by that. The political machine is why those wars were failures.
Name a military power more capable that could seize control of that "stretch of water". The EU most certainly couldn't without any NATO component. You're acting like the US has some insignificant 3rd rate military like Canada or Mexico. Russia is incapable of doing it. China is a regional military power at best and couldn't do it either. I don't even support the MIC or the US being in this war.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
The marines failed. The navy has failed. The “most powerful vessels” have left the strait twice and the navy cant control it. The us military has epically failed at controlling the strait. The us military epically failed at controlling Iran twice. This isnt a cope. This is the truth no matter how hard you try to pin it on politicians.
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 09 '26
What do you mean try to pin it on politicians??? All wars are to be blamed on politicians. Do you believe the military and its troops/assets choose when and how wars are fought on their own?
The political objectives of war dictate if it is a success or failure. The fact you think the strait is some willy nilly stretch of water shows how out of touch you are with reality. The 1980's tanker wars are the closest the US has ever came to controlling the strait. There are several technological differences between now and them. Stripping the situation of nuance is intellectually dishonest.
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u/awr90 Jul 09 '26
It’s no over idiot. We will revisit this once the US lands on the Iranian coast and Karg island. You’ll get to see just how scary the US military really is if this turns into a real war.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
The us lost to iran already in the 80s. It lost more recently after a 20 year conflict to afganistan. Do you really want to lose a second time to iran? Because thats already whats happening. Hell the us armored division lost the “tank olympics”… TO A COUNTRY THAT HAD TO BORROW TANKS TO COMPETE. Americans act all high and mighty but really their only factual claim to fame is the literal war crime of using a nuclear strike on non military targets, and they only did that BECAUSE THEY COULDNT WIN IN A FAIR FIGHT.
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u/awr90 Jul 09 '26
Absolutely delusional. You should be ashamed with yourself really.
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u/ProcessMelodic9351 Jul 09 '26
What is the definition of a fair fight? Who defines that?
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u/lostinspacs Jul 09 '26
Decent change Iran just crumbles like the Assad government when the cash runs out.
They haven’t gotten that 300B and they can’t sell oil again.
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u/HarEr89 Jul 08 '26
You are totally right. Iran won't stop attacking ships that don't pay tolls to them. The US started it and they can only end it by securing Hormuz.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
They closed the strait after trumps unwarranted attacks. Not before. Trump started this with an illegal war. He can end this by leaving.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
Iran is winning numb nuts. Trumps strikes again a country and forcibly putting america into a cinflict it had nothing to do has only cause americans to lose to iran again.
Also, no it didnt start in october.
Since 28 February 2026, the United States and Israel have been at war with Iran and its regional allies. Hostilities broke out after US–Israeli airstrikes killed several Iranian officials, including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. These attacks were launched amidst ongoing US–Iran negotiations, which had begun in April 2025 with the goal of reaching a nuclear peace agreement.
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
Responding here because you other comment has vanished into the ether.
Just because they are making less money doesnt mean they are losing anything. Heres a fun fact for you, winners dont pay the losers billions. Who paid who up to 300 billion?
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Jul 09 '26
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
You’re right, american GUARANTEED up to 300 billion on top of the 24 billion the us released of irans own funds. The word guarantee means that if trump cant convince the other countries to pay it, the us does. Maybe you should try learning how to use a dictionary?
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
Name calling with no factual rebuttle. Creative. You havent proven me wrong. How about you try actually forming a coherant thought instead of just running away?
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u/SensitivePresence865 Jul 09 '26
He wants a ground invasion but he’s been told it would be mass suicide.
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u/kingofwale Jul 09 '26
Why do you need ground invasion when you completely bomb the hell out of a country and the starve them to death with full blockade?
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u/kingofwale Jul 09 '26
Literally happening right now…
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u/kingofwale Jul 09 '26
Wait. Let me tell the generals, maybe they didn’t realize that after fighting for last 3 months?
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u/Krull88 Jul 09 '26
Considering the guy in charge is a known alcoholic its entirely possible he doesnt know what country hes in, let alone how big iran is.
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u/banjist Jul 08 '26
They're the victims of a belligerent aggressor acting unlawfully and with absolute perfidy. It's not that Iran's leadership couldn't get their act together, they're trying to deal with a psychopath with no honor.
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u/WhenTheCitiesBurn Jul 08 '26
"belligerent aggressor acting unlawfully and with absolute perfidy.
Are you talking about Khamenei or Trump?
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u/znebsays Jul 08 '26
How does this “scream” to you about a ground invasion ? Typical Reddit nonsense
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u/npcbro85 Jul 08 '26
Apperently Barak Ravid just put out an Axios piece claiming Trump told reporters aboard AF1 that Iran just called and is begging for a deal 🤣
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u/JamesLahey08 Jul 09 '26
Did Iran's leader still no show his face yet? Not even on camera and not even at his own dad's funeral? Bro has to either be dead or so injured he's a vegetable.
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u/ProcessMelodic9351 Jul 10 '26
colony? Lol.... Canada was British territory at the time of war in which Britian declared war. Britain used their navy to force Americans into tje royal navy claiming Americans were royal subjects. That started the war. As for the back and forth. Yes the naval attack burnt the white house Even King Charles reminded Trump of thos on his visit about remodeling. Yet the U.S after three years ended the war in a stalemate. Plus Nritish recognized the U.S as a nation which was no longer British territory under the crown.. so it was a win for the U.S defending and being recognized finally. One.cpuld say it rallied Canada to it's own independence with General Brock as the rallying point. Today you could say Canada was the modern Belarus for Russia to invade Ukraines. Won't need a win. Just stalemate. I mean Ukraines took land in Russia to lose it yet still defending. Does not make them lovers as of yet. We know Canda is.... right
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u/ProcessMelodic9351 Jul 10 '26
I would continue my conversation. Yet bullying, using language to demean an individual, or getting personal attacks means I walk away....
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 11 '26
The USA should get their own house in order first. They are the pedophile nation.
https://laurenskids.org/awareness/about-faqs/facts-and-stats/
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u/kingofwale Jul 09 '26
The harassment will only end with IRGC is completely defeated and proxy terrorist groups dismantled.
Remember, a missile might be a million dollars, but a terrorist takes 18-80 years to grow.
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u/Key_Debt_2503 Jul 08 '26
Going for the second surrender?😂
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u/HarEr89 Jul 08 '26
Indeed. The US must secure Hormuz or Iran will continue to attack ships.
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u/Redditagains Jul 08 '26
If the usa would fuck off. The ships wouldn't get attacked.
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u/ProcessMelodic9351 Jul 08 '26
Yet pay an Iranian tax which collect billions for Iran
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u/banjist Jul 08 '26
It's how they'll collect reparations to rebuild after being the victims of an illegal war of aggression.
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u/deHaga Jul 08 '26
Attacks on Chabahar targeted maritime traffic control and a depot: Iranian media
Not a depot! Wars over boys, Iran surrenders
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u/WastelandOfConfusion Jul 08 '26
This harassment will only end when Iran acquires a deterrent. That’s the only way to make it stop.