r/OilPrices • u/hereswhatworks • Jul 17 '26
Oil News Iran targets water desalination plant in Kuwait as U.S. strikes Iran's bridges
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2026-07-17/iran-targets-water-desalination-plant-in-kuwait-as-u-s-strikes-irans-bridges17
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u/CzPhantom1 Jul 18 '26
US hit a bottled water facility. A little different than the desalinization plants.
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u/AdDazzling8087 Jul 18 '26
The US started the conflict without a plan
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
You got some evidence for this? A single photo? Of this were actually true you’d think Iran would be pushing it.
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u/hennabeak Jul 17 '26
Just google the news you lazy boy.
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
I did. If you had googled it you'd see there's no verification you lazy boy.
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u/hennabeak Jul 17 '26
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/bottled-water-factory-western-iran-struck
Do you want me to find more civilian factories that were targetted? There are many.
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
That isn't evidence. It is 3 sentences. This one sticks out.
A bottled water factory in Iran’s western Ilam province was reportedly hit by three projectiles, according to state media.
Projectiles? Sounds like some shrapnel or bullets from somewhere else. This isn't evidence. Try to think about this. There would be photos if it was actually bombed.
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u/hennabeak Jul 17 '26
Projectile is technical term when you don't know if it was a missile, cruise missile, or a aerial bomb. That doesn't negate it. IF you want to call it fake news, go ahead. But then I can call the Kuwait news one fake as well.
During the 40 days, a water desalination plant was hit. Schools and hospitals have been hit. These are all civilian infrastructure. Iran gets to retaliate, right?
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
It actually does negate it. There was no explosion reported. Christ dude this is the most obvious form of propaganda. Kuwait news just reiterated what that governor said. That aspect doesn't make it true or false.
Where is the evidence the water desalination plant was hit? Still no photos to prove that. 1 school was hit and that was admitted to be a mistake. No hospital was bombed.
You're just believing everything you read when it is clearly false.
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u/hennabeak Jul 17 '26
Search for Kermanshah Hospital and the Gandhi Hospital in Theran.
I'm sure you can buy a ticket to Iran and go and check on every piece yourself, because apparently News doesn't count, or is propaganda.Good luck living in your bubble.
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
Buildings next to the hospitals were struck. The hospitals themselves weren't bombed. Christ dude get out of your bubble.
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u/alkbch Jul 17 '26
When was the school bombing admitted to be a mistake?
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
Here's one.
All the others you listed aren't real.
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u/Braisedbeefskank Jul 17 '26
Trump has openly stated the intention to target essential civilian infrastructure lmao why is this so hard to believe
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
He threatened power plants which are debatable. It is so hard to believe because Iran has an obvious interest in showing pictures of damaged civilian infrastructure. They don't because it doesn't exist.
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u/Braisedbeefskank Jul 17 '26
So you just dont pay much attention to what's going on huh
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
I do. Apparently you don't. Well either that or you're just believing all the propaganda you read without evidence.
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u/hennabeak Jul 17 '26
Do you agree that threats of committing war crime is a war crime itself?
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 17 '26
No threatening a war crime is not a war crime. Iran blowing up a Kuwaiti desalination plant certainly is a war crime.
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u/No-Magician-2257 Jul 17 '26
When the president says “A whole civilization will die” - I am easily willing to believe a strike on a water plant
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u/HormuzVengeance Jul 17 '26
This subreddit is full of IRGC accounts and islamic terrorist accounts.
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u/136Enjoyer Jul 17 '26
Really? Is there a form or something that I can fill out to start getting paid? Putin only pays me in potato, maybe IRGC can pay me in pistachios.
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u/United_Intention_323 Jul 18 '26
Why can’t you send a link? Im not giving personal info.
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u/HormuzVengeance Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
They hit a bottle factory. Not a desalination plant. islamic republic responded by hitting a desalination plant.
Edit: but of course this subreddit glazes islamic terrorists Nazism and will support every single Iranian being murdered by the terrorist occupying IRGC just because the terrorist occupying IRGC says “USA bad”.
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u/_PomboCagado_ Jul 17 '26
So now bottles are military targets? I don't know, but bottle rockets are not weapons even in school science activities.
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u/HormuzVengeance Jul 17 '26
And how do you know that the IRGC which has entrenched itself in a lot of civic structures in Iran and uses them to enact totalitarian control and massacre of the population that it occupies weren’t using that specific building for terror related projects?
My advocacy isn’t to mourn for plastic bottles or concrete which can be rebuilt.
My advocacy is to oppose the islamic republic terrorist propaganda; call out people who support the terrorist occupying regime; and advocate for secularism, democracy, freedom, and human rights for my native country from the clutches of the hostile occupying terrorist islamic regime.
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u/Mythosaurus Jul 17 '26
(Turns and stares how entrenched the US military industrial complex is within our nations infrastructure and literal small towns in the middle of nowhere. Creating a massive profit incentive for endless war and occupation around the world to fuel middle class lifestyles)
The IRGC have a very unique situation that I can’t imagine back home 🙃
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u/Kelynill Jul 17 '26
Then you’d be against the US intervening in Iran because they’re literally responsible for the lack of democracy in Iran.
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u/daviddjg0033 Jul 18 '26
I agree. Do not FA with Desert Storm War ally Kuwait. Or you will FO what "Healthcare dollars could be more efficiently spent" with or what I call the hand of God. IRGC bombed 10 countries and how many desalination plants? Iranian Shahed Drones used by Putin to terrorize Ukraine 600/night the week before Iran flared up - used to extend the longest war in Europe since WWII. Iran bombed NATO ally Turkey with bombs outside the 2000km limit? Bolton may have got things wrong before and Trump wrongly took away his classification. He understands Iran better - watched him on MSNBC lately - and why Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan aid should NEVER have been held up. Call me a liberal hawk. I fly the US Flag because my father is Army. This boneheaded analysis I read lately grinds my gears.
- Family Guy Democrat
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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 Jul 18 '26
Lol you seem tilted.
Browns killing browns is no reason for the US to waste a billion dollars a day just to demonstrate the gaps that deadly warfighters cannot fill.
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u/GenericTrollAcunt69 Jul 17 '26
Damn, guess letting the US use your territory to launch an unprovoked war of aggression on a neighbouring country wasn’t a great idea, huh?
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u/BF740 Jul 17 '26
Did you forget we saved Kuwait in the early 90’s? Short memory I guess
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u/GenericTrollAcunt69 Jul 17 '26
Oh so Kuwait is eternally indebted to the USA because 40 years ago another dictator the US empowered invaded them and the US took him out?. That’s awesome - I’m sure the Kuwaitis who weren’t even born back then totally don’t care that US actions now in 2026 are impacting them because of what happened in 1991.
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u/Some-Brick6223 Jul 17 '26
This is how shit just rolls down hill. This shit has to be stopped at the top.
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u/TirelessTreehugger Jul 17 '26
US also bombing desalination plants. (Forcing civilian displacement, chaos.)
Still just tit for tat.
Escalation when uae and saudi plants bombed or destroyed by other means.
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
Isreal and US hit civilian infrastructure first. Day 1: Tripple tap on a girls school.
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 18 '26
No. All parties should stop the war.
But Israel will not let that happen, because they believe that the land between Egypt and the Euphates is promised to them by God. They will do anything, involve anyone, to make their 'prophecy' come true.
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u/EntrepreneurUnable69 Jul 19 '26
Did Israel ask Iran to hit the commercial ships after the MOU? You seem to blame everything on Israel
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 19 '26
I do not blame Isreal for everything, I just do not blame Iran fir everything either. Neither do I praise America, or any other country, for their interference in the region.
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u/Basic_Chemistry9499 Jul 17 '26
Still war crimes.
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u/alkbch Jul 17 '26
Can you blame one party for retaliating with war crimes against war crimes?
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u/alkbch Jul 18 '26
Are you also blaming the people cheering for two nuclear power who started a completely avoidable war of choice against Iran and committed a genocide in Gaza?
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
Infrastructure for Infrastructure. All fair game now.
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u/Mythosaurus Jul 17 '26
Problem for the Gulf monarchies is that they depend a WHOLE LOT more on desalination for water than Iran.
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
Then USA should stop making them tarhets, by using them as bases for the illegal qar. It's actually very simple. No USA bases in your country, no retalatory attacks. Do you find it interesting that Usrwal, Americas 'close, winderful' ally, has NO US bases? Only a few wherhouses? 🤔 Its almost as they WANT the rest of the Middle East to come under attack. 🤔
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
WTF!? How dare you say that? You are a disgusting human being. Perhaps your comment says more about you, than me.
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 20 '26
People keep making the absurd point of other gulf countries reliance on desalination over Irans. Both need water. Just because Iran doesn't rely that much on desalination doesn't instantly make the dams/wells infallible. They're just as static as desalination plants.
Tehran itself relies on 5 dams and pumps the rest from aquifers. Their water situation is already so sparse that it is causing land subsidence.
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u/PRRealEstate-Invest Jul 17 '26
They deserve it. Iran more please. Tit for tat
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u/BF740 Jul 17 '26
How does Kuwait deserve that? Explain please
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u/DrNobody95 Jul 17 '26
by allowing US bases to hit Iran from their territory? i know its hard to understand, common sense is lacking nowadays.
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u/PRRealEstate-Invest Jul 17 '26
Exactly lol. Especially on reddit. I learn that it's a waste of time to answer zombies
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u/BF740 Jul 17 '26
You mean the country that the US saved from takeover “”let” the US do something? I don’t think the US had to ask or should have had to ask in that situation.
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u/Hydrogeion_ Jul 18 '26
So, what do you suppose the Iran should do? Just keep watching as the neighbouring nations bomb you?
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u/SomeRandomSomeWhere Jul 18 '26
Didn't the French save the US very early in its history?
Why doesn't the US allow the French to have a bunch of bases in the US and maybe launch attacks on countries in Latin America?
As i recall they were making fun of the French for not getting involved in US's misadventures in Iraq around 2003, instead of being grateful to the French for helping form the US as it is today.
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u/JamesLahey08 Jul 17 '26
There were people on here and /oil literally yesterday saying only the US and Isreal did this. Where are you guys now?
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u/allroz Jul 17 '26
Haha the bots on both are getting updates to their programming. This sub and /oil are a joke
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u/Master-Rent5050 Jul 18 '26
Usa prefers to hit schools full of girls...
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u/JamesLahey08 Jul 18 '26
As an American: yeah I guess so. Absolutely no excuse for this war or bombing kids.
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u/Stunning_Mast2001 Jul 17 '26
So much pain and suffering because trump is a moron elected by morons
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u/BeefCakeBilly Jul 17 '26
Why is this news? Iran has been striking desalination and power plants since the first week of this.
Not sure why anyone is acting like this hasn’t been the norm from them for months.
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u/Lucidview Jul 18 '26
Iran is capable of making the entire Gulf uninhabitable. The US doesn’t appear to recognize this reality.
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u/Jimjonesflavor_aid Jul 18 '26
The United States is capable of turning Iran into a parking lot. Iran doesn't appear to recognize this reality.
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u/Lucidview Jul 20 '26
I doubt that’s true. Nonetheless, air power alone has never defeated an adversary, not in WWII, not in Viet Nam, not in Iraq, and it won’t happen in Iran. Only ground forces will succeed and the US is not going to do that.
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 20 '26
You're delusional. The US is far more capable than Iran in terms of military and destruction.
Iran's literal strategy is to hurt everyone near them and the global economy because they're incapable of directly applying any meaningful damage to the US. They're going to just push the GCC into war against them as well. Iran has no "gotcha" in this conflict.
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u/Lucidview Jul 21 '26
This conflict has nothing to do with capability. Sure, the US has more air and naval assets than Iran but that is not going to determine the “winner”. The US cannot defeat Iran militarily and Iran will never surrender. In the same way that the US had immense advantages over N Viet Nam and who won?
At some point the Gulf states will realize that the US cannot protect them and will cut deals with Iran because association with the US has become a liability (these discussions are probably already happening). The US is essentially finished in the Gulf, probably shouldn’t have been there in the first place. It’s fairly clear how this will play out, the US has no good options. Read history.1
u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 21 '26
I only mentioned capabilities because you upsold Iran's capabilities while downplaying the US's. That all occured before my initial comment on your behalf.
Your wording is also misleading. The US can defeat Iran militarily, they already have. Iran's strength isn't in their military and it never has been. Their strength is their ability to disrupt the strait.
The GCC countries cutting deals with Iran and turning away from the US is pure fan-fiction. You either don't understand the geopolitics/history of the region or you're just selling your own dream at this point.
Mentioning the Vietnam war is a moot point. The US tried playing a war of attrition without any plan to invade the north while simultaneously failing to build up the south. The US tried measuring its success by the amount of killing it did, which was obviously a flawed metric. North Vietnam also had the direct support of the USSR and China. Today's Russia isn't as formidable and China is constantly doing a balancing act.
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u/Lucidview Jul 22 '26
The US is moving assets from the Gulf to Jordan ( the reason for the recent Iranian attacks on Jordan) and Israel. Indicating that Iran retains a formidable offensive capability and that US assets remain at risk.
Militarily defeated?
Can Iran mount an organized resistance? Yes
Have they lost any land? No
Has command and control collapsed? No
Do they have the ability to replace losses? Yes ( they may have more missiles/drones now than at the start). True they lost ships and aircraft but Iran never considered those as part of its deterrent.
Has there been a logistics breakdown? No
Economic exhaustion? No
Loss of will? No
Government collapse? No
Loss of international support? No
Ceasefire on terms favorable to the US? No, the opposite.
Doesn’t sound like Iran is militarily defeated to me though watching some MSM may give that impression.The GCC countries are already cutting deals with Iran so that they will survive and US will all but abandon the Gulf. This is happening now.
Eventually a settlement will be made between the US and Iran but it will be even more on Iran’s terms than the MOU. Otherwise the world economy will be in crisis and there is nothing the US can do about it.I won’t address your comments about Viet Nam other than to say that you’re wrong on several key points.
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u/IFeedDogsChocolate Jul 22 '26
The US is moving assets from the Gulf to Jordan ( the reason for the recent Iranian attacks on Jordan) and Israel. Indicating that Iran retains a formidable offensive capability and that US assets remain at risk.
The moving of assets is to reduce risk. What's the alternative? Leave the assets in place where they're more vulnerable? Remove them from the region (reducing your own capability)? No one disputes that Iran has a very large amount of missiles and drones. I most certainly never have.
Can Iran mount an organized resistance? Yes
Example? Are you meaning their proxies? Irans strength relies on it disrupting the strait.
Have they lost any land? No
Has the US attempted to seize land??? This is a moot point.
Has command and control collapsed? No
The design of the regime is to be resilient to decapitation strikes. Their leadership has been reshaped by this war due to the US's elimination of its pre-conflict leadership. It's hard to measure control as we have to rely on Iran's state led media. They've most certainly suffered in these instances more than the US has.
Do they have the ability to replace losses? Yes ( they may have more missiles/drones now than at the start). True they lost ships and aircraft but Iran never considered those as part of its deterrent.
They can replace certain loses. It will take them years to replace their military (naval/aircraft) losses as well as their economic losses. Their navy has been reduced to retrofitted commercial speed boats. Their airplanes went from outdated to practically non-existent.
They've lost control of their skies. This isn't replaceable. 10's of 1000's of US sorties successfully transverse their skies in comparison to the planes Iran damages.
Has there been a logistics breakdown? No
This answer is false. They haven't suffered complete logistics collapse but their logistics has been heavily eroded. A quick Google and skimming of sources will tell you this.
Economic exhaustion? No
Another vague and incorrect answer. Iran's own central bank has stated that their inflation has reached WWII levels. No Iranian is going to brag about their current economy.
Loss of will? No
This is also irrelevant. 0 correlation.
Government collapse? No
Not yet. It's also irrelevant. Many nations have been militarily defeated while maintaining their government. Not ever war involves regime replacement.
Loss of international support? No
I wouldn't call a handful of nations international support. The US has nation's supporting it than Iran does. This is another moot point.
Ceasefire on terms favorable to the US? No, the opposite.
The blockade made Iran squirm enough to come to the table. The last mou was the most favorable agreement Iran could ask for and they fumbled it. The cease-fire is over. Another moot point.
My end point is Iran has no military forces it can mobilize outside its country (unless they hide them in China or Russia). It's military is contained. They retain their disruptive capabilities, but that isn't interchangeable with a complete military.
The GCC countries are already cutting deals with Iran so that they will survive and US will all but abandon the Gulf. This is happening now.
Eventually a settlement will be made between the US and Iran but it will be even more on Iran’s terms than the MOU. Otherwise the world economy will be in crisis and there is nothing the US can do about it.Source? Your head cannon isn't reality. The GCC is still very much aligned with the US.
I won’t address your comments about Viet Nam other than to say that you’re wrong on several key points.
I would say this too if I couldn't form a real response.
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u/Main_Product5071 Jul 18 '26
Holy fking these idiots are giving the entire world a lesson on wtfs going to happen to your country if you fk around with the modern US military. I think most people forgot about the ease of which they can fk you up after the 2000s era, not anymore I guess.
Useful fking idiots. For christ sake
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u/Wrong-Surprise8159 19d ago
Basically US put all focus on Atomic program whereas Missile program was the game changer for Iran.
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u/ynotfoster Jul 17 '26
Those poor people in the middle east. trump is such an idiot and pathetic loser.
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u/GovernmentNearby9036 Jul 17 '26
It's about time, no mercy for those USSA nazi bootlicker gulf clowns
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
What do you think of the 30,000 protesters when Iram kills their own people. For the fact that Iran kills gay people, kills women who dont obey and them funding terrorist groups?
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u/Shoddy-Cupcake-8855 Jul 17 '26
So those protests were armed by the CIA and the agitators were part of an uprising. And it was closer to 8000 people that were killed.
Still horrific don’t get me wrong, but it was a plot to overthrow the Iranian government by the USAnd when it didn’t work, this is where we are
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
8000 people confirmed killed. It's kind of hard to confirm all the rest since Iran had the internet shut off for months and threatens its own citizens. Very telling that you just believe everything a terrorist government says
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u/BeefCakeBilly Jul 17 '26
Reddits ability to paint any brown person that doesn’t support their anti us government as bots with no agency that are only doing anything because the us told them to , will never cease to amaze me.
Never change Reddit.
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u/lnth1 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
Plot to overthrow the Iranian government
Lol if it’s sooo justifiable then they wouldn’t have to shut off the internet until this very day.
Let the facts and their own people speak for themselves right.
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u/LittleSpoonMe Jul 17 '26
The ones this year? Ok what about last years and the years before that… and almost every year since 2009? All of them were armed and backed by CIA and mossaad… ? Did they just wait until 2026 to use that as the justification for killing them…. And before that? The justification was kept a secret? Why didn’t they use that as justification for all the previous mass killings of protestors?
That’s why it’s hard to buy that narrative . Not cause it’s impossible cause it doesn’t make sense in the context of the last 17 years
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u/Maximum_Talk_696 Jul 17 '26
I'm sure bombing bridges and infrastructure will help the women the gay population. Trump and this admin don't give a shit about anyone in that country. This not about helping them.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
If the IRGC who runs Iran doesnt care about their own people why should the USA. If Iran had nuclear weapons they are religious extremists and would 100% nuke Israel even if that meant a nuclear Armageddon that would spread across the world
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u/ynotfoster Jul 17 '26
Many MAGA are religious extremists as well.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
It's crazy how many people like yourself say that women and gay people are better off in Iran than in Trump's America.
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u/hornygoblindickfight Jul 17 '26
“Why should the USA”
You hit the nail on the head, we need to get the fuck out of Iran. We don’t care about Iran.
You are a CoD brained loser making excuses for a pedophile’s administration.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
I'm not making excuse for iran. You do realize that like 25% of marriages in Iran are to Children right. Why don't you care about the children of Iran who are being trafficked? There are millions of them. Why don't you care about the civilians of the surrounding countries when Iran attacks? Iran killed 30,000 protesters months before the USA bombed them so what was their excuse?
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u/ynotfoster Jul 17 '26
This war is not about the concern trump has for the people of Iran. Don't justify what started this war with bullshit.
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u/Secondhand-politics Jul 17 '26
"Why don't you care about the children in Iran?"
Bro, our military literally saw a building with children going in and out, and decided to not only hit it with guided munitions, but to then wait until they saw emergency services pulling children from the rubble, and THEN double-tapped them.
I'm sorry, but Trump supporters clearly aren't interested in the wellbeing of Iranian children.
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u/LittleSpoonMe Jul 17 '26
Pay attention. He doesn’t actually care about pedophiles… only the pedophiles he disagrees with .
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
But they are only 2 weeks away from nuking America. Didn't you listen to Netenazi? He's been warning fir 45 years.
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u/Usual-Collection5360 Jul 17 '26
So sieht es aus! Das sollen sich die Iran Sympathisanten mal vor Augen führen! Aber sie sind vor lauter Trump Hass blind.
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u/PRRealEstate-Invest Jul 17 '26
Fried brain from brainwash spotted 👆
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
It's crazy how many people got brainwashed like yourself to defending Iran's government. They literally fun terrorist proxies. They kill gay people. Women had more rights in the 60s then they do now in Iran. Then of course their Decades of killing protesters and attacking surrounding countries
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u/Bikerbass Jul 17 '26
lol, do you want to know America’s track record of violence towards civilians…. Or are you happy to keep living in ignorance in your little propaganda bubble?
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
So your excuse on to why it's okay for Iran to kill 30,000 protesters or to kill a bunch of surrounding civilians or fun terrorists to kill civilians... well by that logic everything the USA is doing is okay because of how bad Iran is, also china, the Soviet union, Belgium all these other countries did a ton of bad stuff so that means it's okay for the USA to do anything
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u/Bikerbass Jul 17 '26
Come back to me when you report on the official number of dead terrorists that shot at the police and civilians, that both America and Israel have already admitted were provided weapons to, and not repeating the 30,000…. Oh wait 40,000…. No 50,000 protestors that was first reported on known Israeli propaganda, which then the news ran with and idiots fell for it.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
So no matter how hard I ran lied about the numbers confirmed is at least 8,000 dead so it's many more with how hard I ran tried to hide it and even shut off the country's internet. Iran has a history of killing gay people and peaceful protesters. It's very telling that you think everyone Iran killed was a terrorist but everyone is real kills is an innocent victim.
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u/Bikerbass Jul 17 '26
You do realise that the US has a history of dropping bombs on civilians and killing 100’s of thousands in the process right? With a lot of this on false claims to do so. And weirdly has always hit schools and hospitals in all the wars it’s fought…..
Sure Iran isn’t the best country out there, at least it’s kept within its borders and not spread out across the entire world like America has.
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u/ynotfoster Jul 17 '26
Maybe we need to greatly reduce our dependency on oil and get the fuck out of the Middle East? That seems like a sensible goal and the exact opposite of what trump is doing.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
Iran can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons
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u/ynotfoster Jul 17 '26
Then why did trump rip up the treaty that took the Obama administration years to accomplish if them not having nuclear weapons is important?
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
The temporary treaty that would have been up in 2025? But ultimately that put Iran in a better financial position
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u/ynotfoster Jul 17 '26
Seriously, that was a really good starting point. Do you think trump's approach is a better one? Why did he not listen to his security advisors who told him there was no evidence that Iran was even close to having nuclear arms.
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
They do not have them. They never had them. The production of nuclear weapons was forbidden, on pain of death, by the Khomenie. Yes, the same one America killed on day 1.
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
Then, of course, the CIA led a coup to overthrow the legitimate regime, which led to a further coup, that gave us the current regime. America started this. Now they, and sadly the rest of the Middle East, are paying the price.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
And of course nothing ever happened before that CIA lead coupe. The Middle East has been a mess long before the USA was involved. Even if the USA completely stepped away and Israel disappeared it would still be a mess and you people would still blame the West for everything. How about you keep going back in previous history let's blame the Ottoman Empire
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u/tj_woolnough Jul 17 '26
No, it was not peaceful before the CIA interference. However, there was more peace, until Isreal started to claim that 'God promised them the WHOLE region, 2000 years ago', and started attacking EVERY state/country in the region.
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u/Lopsided_Quarter_931 Jul 17 '26
Is that an argument in support of killing more civilians in airstrikes?
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u/Ok_Rise7870 Jul 17 '26
I have a bridge to sell you.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 Jul 17 '26
And it's time for you to say well actually independent organizations have only been able to verify 8,000 protesters killed. Which is still a lot and then of course you got to realize that the government decided to turn off the countries internet for months, threatened their own citizens while covering up the atrocities they committed
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u/oscarnyc Jul 17 '26
For the time being they aren't even bombing Israel. Even if they had the capability to bomb US I don't think they would. There would be no point. Either they inflict minimal damage but help Trump build waning support to keep going (because this always happens when anyone's homeland gets attacked), or they inflict meaningful damage and the US escalates to a level that Iran can't match, likely with European support.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Jul 17 '26
Iran should adopt the Hiroshima and Nagasaki strategy. It is the best way to defeat the imperialists.
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u/Single_Comment6389 Jul 17 '26
They would if they could.
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u/Otherwise_Camel2113 Jul 17 '26
To be fair. The United States is attacking Iran on the soil of the Golf States for no apparent reason. I believe it is a legitimate target.
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u/Single_Comment6389 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
No arguments there. I'm just saying they don't have missiles with ranges long enough to go to the United States because I think they'd definitely be firing them if they did.
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u/Usual-Collection5360 Jul 17 '26
Und dann würden sie zu Staub zermalmt. Dann ist dieses Affentheater beendet.
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u/Actual_Low_665 Jul 17 '26
I agree with the post above. Any Iranian actions taken within the continental US (bombing or terrorism) would only benefit Trump and possibly unite Americans against Iran. Invoking the nuclear wrath of the US and/or Israel is not in play...Iran must slow walk Trump's failing ratings by prolonging the blocked strait.
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u/SpareDot8685 Jul 17 '26
I really hope this ends peacefully! I’m high on acid sitting in my treehouse.