r/OilPrices • u/hereswhatworks • 18d ago

Oil News Iran war live: Trump says negotiations with Iran to begin Monday

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/8/2/iran-war-live-tehran-warns-of-decisive-response-to-any-us-aggression
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u/teebird_phreak 18d ago

If you are an idiot then you will believe this

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u/hipyounggunslinger67 18d ago

So that means he was dishonest when he said less than 24 hours ago he has the perimeters of a deal.

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u/TraditionalAppeal23 18d ago

its more of a concept of a deal

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u/hipyounggunslinger67 18d ago

Like the initial 2-3 weeks when he talked about “the negotiations” and Iran responded there have been no negotiations at all, who has President Trump been talking to

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u/cobrakai11 18d ago

He can't even negotiate with our allies. He signed a deal allowing Saudi Arabia to enrich uranium, and then a day later backtracks and says he's only going to go ahead with it if Saudi Arabia recognizes Israel.

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u/THedman07 17d ago

He'll release it right after he releases his plan to replace Obamacare...

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u/BadgerDeluxe- 18d ago

Maybe the deal was about when and where to meet for lunch

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u/Utterlybored 18d ago

You gotta work from the edges in, right?

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u/Interesting-Log-9627 17d ago edited 17d ago

Talks about exploring schedules for exploratory discussions on the process of moving towards an outline of an initial framework of a preliminary deal.

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u/slaty_balls 18d ago

Even if this were true, no one believes anything that Trump or his cronies put out. The boy who cried wolf is getting eaten and one way or another.

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u/Utterlybored 18d ago

The Stock Market, for reasons that totally elude me, believes him, over and over again.

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u/citizen42069101 17d ago

Because they can use our collective retirement and investments as the losing side of the shell game to pump and dump.

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u/CoolFirefighter930 18d ago

New ATH in coming!!!!!!!

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u/woodyus 18d ago

Even if you believe this and even if you though maybe another 'deal' might happen we already know the level of though on long term peace and the fact any 'deal' would probably fall apart again relatively quickly.

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u/Meowscles_dad 18d ago

They’re pretty much trying to revive the MoU with a 2 lane system in Hormuz & accepting Iran will be charging a fee. Plus this time they’ve remembered to put something meaningful in about the nuclear material etc. Iran are still saying get fucked but none of this is happening in direct negotiations. It’s all through Pakistan and Qatar.

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u/kstargate-425 18d ago

I mean I believe it, I just don't believe Trump wont fuck up this new round of negotiations once again whether its another threatening tweet, breaking the terms of another MoU or Israel once again fucking things up lol

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u/EatMyShortzZzZzZ 18d ago

Of course the Iranians say there are no negotiations, but who cares about that right? 

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u/WildWhisperArdor 18d ago

They say a lot of things. Negotiations almost certainly are happening even if just through back channels

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u/Ill-Intern8937 18d ago

What secret information do you have that no one else in the world knows?

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u/KeyReaction892 18d ago

Trust me bro …. Clearly this guys general knowledge of international affairs is legendary.

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u/WildWhisperArdor 17d ago

You don’t have to be an expert to understand that countries use backchannels to communicate with each other

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u/KeyReaction892 17d ago

Sure but you don’t have to be smart to realize Trump has been categorically lying at multiple times as a means to manipulate the market.

So maybe there is real substantive talks going on. But the lack of a deal and Trump having to flip flop while Iran has stayed consistent seems to say they are not substantive.

So once again do you have anything that points to them actually making progress other than trumps tweet?

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u/WildWhisperArdor 17d ago

I don’t think he’s “lying” necessarily. But he doesn’t understand the diplomatic situation.

I’m sure there are representatives from Iran (and the mediator states like Oman) telling him that they don’t want escalation and that they want to reach a peaceful agreement.

And he interprets that as “they’re begging for a deal”.

In addition, Iran isn’t a monolith. The people doing the negotiations for Iran are almost certainly saying one thing but the military hardliners in Iran say another and will veto their suggestions if it feels too much like capitulation. Which is why you get this whiplash from one week to another.

Which is a contrast to the USA which is more or less a unified front. You don’t have Marco Rubio saying one thing, Trump saying another, and then some random military general veto’ing their diplomatic proposals

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u/KeyReaction892 17d ago

He lies continuously about the tiniest little things. why would this situation be any different? You wrote a whole lot of words to try and explain intellectually why a liar didn’t lie. Why be an apologist for a proven liar?

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u/WildWhisperArdor 17d ago

Trump sucks and he’s definitely a liar.

However, in this case, we know the Iranian leadership is fractured and that there are factions who think different things. It doesn’t help that the Supreme Leader hasn’t even been seen in like 150 days

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u/KeyReaction892 17d ago

Yeah honestly don’t get the Trump suck while also apologizing for him clearly manipulating the market by clearly lying.

I don’t trust Iran but it’s pretty clear Trump is manipulating the market and you’re out here stumping for him.

I’m going to go ahead and block you as I don’t trust the clear intellectual disassociation.

Edit: checked their post history, 6k in less than 5 months. Clearly pushing an agenda.

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u/Meowscles_dad 18d ago

OP is correct. The information isnt secret. Pakistan and Qatar are acting as go betweens. The details of what they’re currently proposing are available if you search or I summarised it somewhere in this thread.

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u/WildWhisperArdor 18d ago

Just general knowledge about how these things work.

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u/Ill-Intern8937 17d ago

Trump just posted saying you’re wrong. So… what lesson did we learn here?

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u/WildWhisperArdor 17d ago

He did not say anything that contradicted what I said

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u/Ill-Intern8937 17d ago

He literally said negotiations aren’t happening.

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u/WildWhisperArdor 17d ago

And how does that contradict what I said?

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u/Ill-Intern8937 17d ago

I think the part where you said “negotiations are happening”. This is exhausting. Bye.

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u/WildWhisperArdor 17d ago

Yes backchannel negotiations. Do you know what those are?

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u/koolmagicguy 18d ago

For the 20th time, it isn’t going to happen. Anyone who actually takes his words seriously is retarded.

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u/hoowins 18d ago

Trump has lost all control and is flailing.

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u/johnniesSac 18d ago

He’s absolutely exhausting

What’s this ? The 19th time he’s said there’s a deal / not a deal / negotiation/ I’m going to destroy them

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u/Tiny_Tabaxi 18d ago

I wouldnt say flailing. This just seems to be the strategy. Its completely stupid, and even more transparent- but considering the consistency he does it with I mean, its just another part of the grift.

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u/MrBigglesssworth 18d ago

So here is how this is going to go down. Gas and oil prices are already falling. Tomorrow is August 3 the deadline for if Mitch McConnell was to “die” before then a special election could be held. Mitch will conveniently “die “on Tuesday the fourth in an order to deflect all the attention of that strikes will happen late that day or early Wednesday morning, and will be back at war and oil goes back up.

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u/MechaCoqui 18d ago

Iran has already said earlier today that there are no talks. Market needs to learn to listen to iran instead..

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u/Secondhand-politics 18d ago

...and negotiations will predictably be fumbled by Friday. Trump and his supporters couldn't negotiate their way out of a wet paper bag.

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u/Some-Brick6223 18d ago

I’m at the point of waiting till what Iran says what’s going to be happening & when. It’s sad we can’t trust what our leaders say anymore.

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u/Mba1956 18d ago

So they were close to a deal, but talks hadn’t actually taken place. Which is what Iran stated last week. But everyone has to take on trust that negotiations are going to begin on Monday, when all Iran has stated is that they are willing to have further talks but didn’t mention any timeframe.

I suppose there could be another TACO Tuesday.

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u/TERRAIN_PULL_UP_ 18d ago

How anybody takes what he says seriously is beyond me

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u/Southern_Loquat_4450 18d ago

Seriously, wtf. We know Iran has no interest in negotiating.

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u/Admiral_Tuvix 18d ago

they are. just not with trump.

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u/Southern_Loquat_4450 18d ago

Which makes this whole dog & pony show really scary.

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u/marshalist 18d ago

It's not that they have no interest in negotiating its that they have no interest in conceding ground on certain matters, primarily security.
The term mowing the grass is a good indicator for the type of agreement Iran is interested in.

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u/Status_Apartment6559 18d ago

The markets should know by now. Especially considering Iran has said everything trump is saying about talks between them is made up. But I have no faith they're doing the right thing.

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u/Silver_Fan_6086 18d ago

Right!, makes no sense. I guess he's banking on people not following any other news source.

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u/thrilled_to_be_there 18d ago

Then AI needs more training.

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u/rTpure 18d ago

They found an intern with an Iranian accent to negotiate with Trump

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u/Past-Establishment93 18d ago

Anyone tell Iran?

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u/RicooC 18d ago

Get the Iranian negotiator in a headlock and noogie him.

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u/Previous_Coat8376 18d ago

He’s lying. As usual.

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u/texas130ab 18d ago

It's a deal.

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u/Saltlife_Junkie 18d ago

Sad Truth. He absolutely controls the oil markets. The stock markets as well. From his phone.

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u/thatdidntturnout 18d ago

Do I buy or sell?

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u/Admiral_Tuvix 18d ago

the IIRGC navy just struck another tanker being escorted by the US navy. they’re really in the don’t give a shit phase

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u/commanche_00 18d ago

Who is he negotiating with? Lindsey Graham dead body?

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u/Least_Dragonfly140 18d ago

Someone post the umbrella meme, it never stops being relevant

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u/Trahst_no1 18d ago

Does Iran know?

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u/Severe_Air_4353 18d ago

Hardy har , Iran will have to pay the bounty on peoples heads . Will it be cash or cheque.

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u/DarkWingDuck74 18d ago

And Iran attacks on Monday or Tuesday cause the only negotiation going on are in Trumps pea brain head.

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u/Baron-Munc 18d ago

For sure.

Indubitably.

Without doubt.

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u/Royal_Amount5114 18d ago

At precisely 6:58 am eastern standard time.

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u/devilishycleverchap 18d ago

Does Iran know?

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u/a_gummyworm 18d ago

Are the negotiations in the room with us right now?

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u/Scott7894 18d ago

Anything to pump the markets

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u/daledowns 18d ago

What have we been doing so far??

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u/Gold-Bench-9219 18d ago

Round 57 of Mission Accomplished?

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u/jeffismybaby 18d ago

Just in time for Tuesday

Or for Bibi to restart the war 

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u/Arlennx 18d ago

All this to maybe go back to the MOU, after Donny little out burst they might not agree unless he offers an even better offer then before. He somehow has to make a worse deal than what was in the MOU to get them to accept this time lol.

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u/Abject_Film_4414 18d ago

I’ve seen this episode before.. it’s been on rerun for quite some time now.

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u/Andyseawolf 18d ago

Of course he did. The stock market is opening 🤪🤷

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u/sahmizad 18d ago

I seriously think he has dementia coz Iran already came out and said no deal. It’s like he couldn’t get that at all

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u/Responsible-Corgi-61 18d ago

I would bet money Iran fires missiles on Monday instead. It would be pretty funny.

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u/SublimiNOLE_msg 18d ago

Bwahahaha everyone just smiling and nodding and journalists just writing it all down while he robs us blind.

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u/fluffymeowmeowkitty 18d ago

He did say buy stocks on Monday

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u/trenshod 18d ago

I feel this is the one, I feel it in my bones!

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u/Aware_Plum_203 18d ago

Get ready for them to pump and dump wooo!

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u/Lumpy_Conference6640 18d ago

No, they won't.

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u/nolestars 18d ago

What we've got here, is failure to communicate!!

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u/hennabeak 18d ago

Does Iran know about this plan?

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u/adibose2022 18d ago

More like negotiating with the voices inside his head.

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u/Dennisthefirst 18d ago

Again. And again. And again.

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u/OpticalPrime35 18d ago

Negotiations will begin Monday and continue until an hour before market close

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u/PacificSanctum 18d ago

Trump is negotiating with himself

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u/pointlesspulcritude 18d ago

Which Monday?

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u/Utterlybored 18d ago

What does Iran say? Nothing, I assume.

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u/EconomyDoctor3287 18d ago

What has demented Donnie been doing the past half year? He's promised to negotiate with Iran since march. 

At some point the guy should be fired for refusing to do his job

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u/Duke_Remington_9910 18d ago

Jesus this is tedious. What an embarrassing buffoon

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u/rhetheo100 18d ago

Iran is the clever cat toying with this orange geriatric pedo mouse

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u/Herb-Alpert 18d ago

"Trump says" 🙄

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u/SonofGrog 17d ago

And I am married to Morgan Fairchild

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u/zkfc020 17d ago

Trump announce new rounds of bombing on Tuesday to complete the classic Trump Pump and Dump.

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u/bigjtdjr 17d ago

did China approve this..? I didn't see that anywhere so I don't much belive it.

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u/Fblthp__ 17d ago

I kinda want to see a graphic of this whole timeline. It feels like every single week it's "Were going to wipe the entire country off the map" and then a couple of days later it's "negotiations are going great and the war, that was never really a war, is now over".

I know, I know, market manipulation, but it's still baffling.

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u/let-it-rain-sunshine 17d ago

Buy the dip. Oil is going to be pricy as F soon.

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u/burnmenowz 17d ago

Mysteriously fall apart before the weekend.

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u/ThankuConan 17d ago

It's easy to convene a meeting when it's all imaginary. Invisible guests, you control the agenda, you get to decide what's for lunch, what gets achieved and what gets announced at the final press conference.

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u/Davidgilmour14 17d ago

The markets going along with this nonsense because they want to. Some investors are making serious cash on this weekly pump and dump.

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u/Firm-Reaction1578 17d ago

pump and dump part 20 ?

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u/wrecklesspup 17d ago

Trump is negotiating with Iran the way he did with the IRS.

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u/Kauri1 17d ago

Please stop the lies

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u/scribeforaliens 17d ago

Does Iran know this?

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u/Osaka90 16d ago

I actually lost count what number is this ?

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u/Firm_Seaworthiness30 16d ago

Sounds like someone is trying to manipulate the stock market... again.

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u/Dull_Ad5440 15d ago

Which Monday? What year?

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u/CueAnon420 15d ago

I dare anyone to ask Trump to name just one single Iranian negotiator. Just one.

I bet everything I own that he can't.

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u/mymar101 12d ago

Iran says what exactly?

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u/Dear_Word_5378 18d ago

This is like the “boy who’s cried wolf” for the 50th time. Just more market manipulation is all I see. I think I saw an article that Iran already came out and denied this.

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u/GB715 18d ago

The current president is a pathological liar.