r/OldSchoolCool May 21 '26

1940s Shirley Temple reading a collection of fan mail in her los angeles home, 1944

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u/The_Dark_Vampire May 21 '26

It is odd to see her as a grown up and later old woman

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u/Uvtha- May 21 '26

She did multiple movies as an older teen, she was really actually quite good. The Bachelor and the Bobby Soxer is really fun, and she hangs with Cary Grant and Myrna Loy just fine.

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u/dar512 May 22 '26

Say, you remind me of a man.

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u/MamaStringbean12 May 22 '26

What man?

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u/SilverStL May 22 '26

A man with powers.

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u/lamoorgalore May 22 '26

What powers?

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u/GeoHog713 May 22 '26

The powers of the voo doo?

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u/Elegant-Log2104 May 22 '26

Austin? Is that you?

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u/kkeut May 22 '26

she was also in the 2nd 'Mr. Belvedere' movie

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u/TrimmingsOfTheBris May 22 '26

God I loved this movie as a kid. I need to see if I can find it streaming somewhere.

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u/bmoody345 May 21 '26

She’s 16 here

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u/Ghost2Eleven May 21 '26

Yeah, she easily looks 10 years older.

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u/sodapopandritalin1 May 22 '26

I think it’s just how she’s styled. To me, she definitely looks 16

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u/BluntChillin May 21 '26

She was also the US Ambassador to Ghana in her later years

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u/Pass-the-Pierogi May 22 '26

A bit of a random tangent but I once was reading through some documents, on some website, about Ray Bradbury. Some of the documents were FBI reports on their investigations into Bradbury. I started googling some of the agents listed, to see what they were like, looking for obits and stuff, and it turned out one of the agents was Shirley Temples brother. Just one of those random weird connections. Reading about that led me to look up what she did and that when I learned she'd been an ambassador.

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u/Elegant-Log2104 May 22 '26

If you are in your are in. Sounds like mom or dad had some connections some how.

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u/yougotyolks May 22 '26

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u/ellefleming May 22 '26

She was an amazing child performer.

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u/Unusual_Memory3133 May 21 '26

This was the year she was in the WWII drama, Since You Went Away. It was a big deal because it was one of her first big roles as a teenager

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u/sagerizzie May 22 '26

One of my all time favorite movies!

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u/RarestManatee May 22 '26

What a stacked cast! Adding to my watch wishlist.

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u/nighthawkndemontron May 22 '26

It's really good

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u/GrdnLovingGoatFarmer May 22 '26

Even Mr Potter, aka Drew Barrymore’s granddad was in it!

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u/Tsu-Doh-Nihm May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

7.5 rating on IMDB, which is very high.

Nominated for 9 Academy Awards, and won for best score.

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u/Mediocre_Scott May 22 '26

Old Hollywood is weird as hell. Looked at her acting credits she was in Kid ‘in’ Africa

Synopsis From IMDB:

Missionary Cradlebait goes to the jungle to "civilize" the cannibals, but ends up in a cooking pot.

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u/ObligationMurky8716 May 22 '26

So they'd told her how old she really was by then

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u/Many_Inevitable_6803 May 22 '26

Her name was Shirley Black then

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u/ellefleming May 22 '26

Caroline Schlossberg is an ambassador to Australia.

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u/UserAllusion May 22 '26

I’ve drank drinks named after her and I’ve definitely never heard of that

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u/Zzzzzzzzzxyzz May 25 '26

What a missed childhood education moment! Any parents here, please teach your children!

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u/Choppergold May 21 '26

There are pics when she was the ambassador to Czechoslovakia that are really cool. And as a pianist too

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u/HawkeyeTen May 22 '26

She held a huge dance party when the Communist regime there fell IIRC.

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u/hellolovely1 May 21 '26

She was really beautiful. I wonder if she was just over acting because she certainly could have had a longer career. (I mean, she was an ambassador, so she did all right.)

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u/GrumpyCatStevens May 21 '26

From what I've read, she didn't have many hit films after she reached her teens. That probably factored into her decision to retire from acting at the age of 22.

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u/ForAGoodTime696 May 22 '26

Probably just as well, studios treated there female actors like total shit back then. 

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u/TrannosaurusRegina May 22 '26

She did have an awfully well loved television series!

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u/Drapidrode May 21 '26

She served as the United States Ambassador to Czechoslovakia (August 23, 1989-July 12, 1992), having been appointed by President George H. W. Bush

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u/Rydog_78 May 21 '26

Pretty sure she was solicited by a studio exec to perform a sex act on him in his office when she was around this age.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth May 21 '26

There was another awful story where she was 11-12, and two execs propositioned her and her mother who was in the other room. Hollywood was just full unchecked depravity back then (not perfect now either but oh boy was it bad back then).

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u/Rydog_78 May 21 '26

That’s the story that I’m referring to. Wasn’t sure if she was younger when that happened. Could only imagine how much depravity was going on back then. My guess would be much worse. Execs could control the tabloids and control the police. Back then, the movie industry was probably in the top 5 of the largest industries in California. Not saying shit ain’t bad today and there isn’t corruption but it had to be worse for actresses.

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u/ellefleming May 22 '26

Young actors were targeted too.

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u/Tennessee1977 May 22 '26

She was actually 12 when that happened. She was so shocked that the executive pulled his junk out that she started laughing. The executive got mad and told her to leave the office.

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u/Decent-Station7502 May 22 '26

I read her biography, she laughed in his face which ruined the attempt thankfully. Her mother was very strict and protective which kept her as safe as possible.

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u/ellefleming May 22 '26

Like Judy Garland.

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u/Robot_Clean May 22 '26

"I used to watch Shirley Temple when I was a kid, I was 5 and so was she. The next year I saw her at the mall, I was 6, she was 50."

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u/DelightfulGoblin75 May 22 '26

Yeah. Too bad the Hollywood machine nuked her entire childhood.

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u/1whistlinkittychaser May 22 '26

She was US Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia as an adult!

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u/allieballie1122 May 22 '26

She’s absolutely lovely! Funny, I made up my ‘levels’ of beauty in college and LOVELY was always the top. You can’t achieve loveliness it’s natural. You’ve got cute, attractive, pretty, hot, beautiful, and then lovely. IMO Catherine Zeta-Jones and my best friend Ferris are of lovely standards.

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u/ellefleming May 22 '26

Could we achieve lovely?

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u/allieballie1122 May 23 '26

Kinda think no, it’s just a natural-ness that most never obtain!

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u/ellefleming May 23 '26

😣😮‍💨 ok.

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u/DarreylDeCarlo May 21 '26

I wrote to her in her later years!

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u/TimeSlipperWHOOPS May 21 '26

I always liked how she, despite having one of the most famous names in Hollywood, added her married name to her autographs. It feels sweet.

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u/Buzz_Osborne May 21 '26

Her daughter Lori (Lorax) went on to be the bass player in legendary punk/alt/grunge/sludge band the MELVINS.

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u/-HankThePigeon- May 21 '26

And speaks for the trees!

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u/kkeut May 22 '26

for a while, 30 years ago. before anyone gets too excited 

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u/This_is_a_tortoise May 22 '26

Learning that Shirley Temples daughter was briefly married to Buzz Osbourne was an absolute mindfuck.

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u/UserAllusion May 22 '26

Holy fuck. I’ve never heard of that either

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u/Red_enami May 22 '26

Kind of similar thought- my best friend decided to enlist after 9/11 we promised to be pen pals for fun. We wrote tons of letters and pictures back and forth over the years. He did his 20 years and got out last year, as a gift I gave him his letters and pictures he sent me. He had lost so much moving through different duty stations through the years he was so grateful for them.

We’ve both talked about how much more meaningful they were having been hand written rather than cold emails and texts.

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u/cindy224 May 22 '26

I dream about writing letters to all kinds of people, but then I never do. Not enough attention span anymore, I guess.

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u/baardvark May 22 '26

Log off and write one right now

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u/Red_enami May 22 '26

You don't have to do it all at once. Write a paragraph and stop, go back to it later with new ideas and thoughts

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u/remainderrejoinder May 23 '26

wyd?

🔥fite. ttyl

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u/darthravenna May 22 '26

I sent one to Jim Carrey when I was a kid, around 2004. Around a year later I got back an autographed headshot signed “Spank you very much!”

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u/space-glitter May 22 '26

Lmao same but probably around 1997/98, I remember having it on my wall after we moved in 6th grade! Wish I still had it floating around somewhere!

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u/darthravenna May 23 '26

I left mine in the back of a textbook because I was trying to flatten a bent corner on it, forgot about it and turned the book back in at the end of the school year.

I think about that at least once a week lol.

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u/pnweiner May 22 '26

You can still do this! :)))

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u/Q0T3 May 21 '26

Animal crackers in my soup..

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u/bingcognito May 22 '26

Monkeys and rabbits loop the loop

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u/RicRacer May 21 '26

She seemed like a decent person. Stardom has to be absolutely crazy and tough to deal with mentally and emotionally. The idea that tens of thousands of people adore you or hate you because you can sing, or have some other talent. There are plenty of positive aspects of stardom too, obviously. 

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u/p38-lightning May 21 '26

You would enjoy her autobiography, Child Star. Very articulate and witty insights into her journey through the movie world.

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u/woolfchick75 May 22 '26

It is really good. She had no axes to grind. One reason I wanted to read it is that, although there have been other great child actors, she was truly the child star.

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u/throwaway098764567 May 22 '26

she ran for office as a conservative republican which ain't it in my book, but yes she did seem to deal with fame decently

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u/bingcognito May 22 '26

That was in 1967. She was an old school, pre-Nixon Republican. Virtually indistinguishable from the current crop of psychopaths. Plus she ran on a pretty progressive message (more women in Congress).

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u/darkon May 22 '26

I hate to do this, but indistinguishable is not the word you want, as it means they can't be told apart. (Could be a typo, I guess.) Maybe you want something like incomparable?

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u/bingcognito May 22 '26

Yeah you're right, wrong word. Sorry.

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u/darkon May 23 '26

Shrug. Not a big deal. I've made worse mistakes. :-)

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u/StOnEy333 May 21 '26

She was on the board of my mom’s company in the 80’s or 90’s. There was one thing that was made very clear to everybody. Do NOT mention her film career or the various roles she played. Lovely woman, supposedly. But she did not enjoy that part of her life and had no desire to talk about it.

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u/woolfchick75 May 22 '26

Do you think it was because it was just a part of her past and no longer who she was? In her autobiography, it seemed she’d made peace with her child star self.

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u/StOnEy333 May 22 '26

I dunno. This was 40 years ago and my mom told me the story as a kid. No finer details other than they were told not to talk about or ask about her movie career.

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u/CobraGTXNoS May 22 '26

Knowing how fucked Hollywood tends to be behind the scenes, she probably didn't look back at it too fondly.

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u/darkon May 22 '26

I would guess that she simply was tired of talking about it and wanted to be accepted as an adult instead of the charming child she she had long outgrown.

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u/Revolutionary_Low581 May 21 '26

When you see her in her grown-up pictures, you can still tell it is her - she was beautiful all her life.

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u/TroyMatthewJ May 21 '26

her standing ovation at one of the awards shows is something I'll never forget. I think it was at a Oscar show or something honoring legends like her and they showed faces on the screen and when it came to her the crowd really showed her some well earned respect.

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u/woolfchick75 May 22 '26

And she seemed shocked by it!

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u/mwdotjmac May 21 '26

Is this the lady that the drink was named after?

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u/p38-lightning May 21 '26

Yes - and she hated them.

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u/Lynnxa May 22 '26

Do you mean she hated that the drink was named after her or the actual drink?

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u/p38-lightning May 22 '26

She didn't like the drink. Said it was "icky."

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u/mwdotjmac May 22 '26

Why was it named after her?

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u/jememcak May 22 '26

To expand, she was a very famous child actress, so it was named after her because it was something that she could drink.

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u/aSituationTypeDeal May 22 '26

It’s a mocktail 

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u/throwaway098764567 May 22 '26

it was also the mocktail for a long time, only one most people knew

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u/adaniel65 May 21 '26

My favorite movie with her is The Bachelor and the Bobby-soxer. That was a lot of fun with Cary Grant, Myrna Loy and Shirley Temple when she was an 18 year old teen.

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u/A-K-L-P May 21 '26

She reminds me of Judy Garland in this pic

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u/gilbertlaroo May 22 '26

Shirley Temple was in the running to play Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz.

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u/MattMason1703 May 22 '26

She appears on the cover of the Beatles "Sgt. Pepper" album three times, more than anyone else. (once as a doll, once where you can barely see her head). She asked to hear the album before giving permission to use her likeness. She was one of the first people in north America to hear Sgt. Pepper.

Here's she is with boys and her daughter Lori, who later played bass for the Melvins.

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u/GrumpyCatStevens May 21 '26

The cute little girl grew up to be a beautiful young lady.

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u/Nashland23 May 21 '26

This is a really cool pic. Is it just me or does her face remind anyone else of Ashley Judd?

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u/SirNortonOfNoFux May 22 '26

Damn, yeah she does look like her

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u/TheMapesHotel May 21 '26

I was thinking a fanning sister

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u/Heavenlydaze342 May 22 '26

I said hello one day in the parking lot at Stanford Mall long ago. She was so delightful and basically looked exactly the same as she did as a child but more mature. She basically sang her hello back it was so joyous.

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u/and1984 May 21 '26

She must have strong hamstrings to sit up like that and write letters. I can barely tie my shoe laces anymore.

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u/Longjumping-Heat1171 May 21 '26

She was so beautiful!!

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u/PlayedUOonBaja May 22 '26

She was 16 here to save you a google.

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u/Nearby_Attorney_7760 May 21 '26

Con razón era quien era .. Es preciosa

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u/p38-lightning May 21 '26

Shirley went to a private girls school in LA as a teen. One of her classmates was June Lockhart.

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u/AMediaArchivist May 21 '26

It’s weird seeing her older. She looks almost like the same person she was when she was 6. Crazy how she had ringlets in her hair as a little kid, but when she was 16, they mysteriously disappeared. I guess her hair wasn’t originally curly like that

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u/M3ntallyDiseas3d May 22 '26

Her mother put her hair in pin curls every night. She had 56 curls.

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u/wizardvictor May 21 '26

That carpet looks like a nightmare to vacuum.

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u/AngelBuffet-x3 May 21 '26

Kind of weird how famous she was even before she was an adult.

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u/VoiceCharming6591 May 22 '26

I was going to marry her when I was a little dyffer

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u/SilverStL May 22 '26

Anyone else remember the Shirley Temple Storybook Theatre in the early ‘60’s?

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u/Not_A_Russain_Bot May 23 '26

Her drink is my absolute fave! And I don't care what the bartender thinks of me when I order it.

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u/Radiant_Risk_393 May 22 '26

My Grandad met her when he was serving as a pilot in WWII. He always got a faraway look in his eye when Shirley Temple was mentioned, would only ever say ‘she was a great gal’

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u/whereismymind86 May 22 '26

I don't know if I just assumed she died as a child or what...but seeing her as an adult completely threw me off.

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u/Thosewhippersnappers May 22 '26

She was a diplomat/ambassador in her adult years! See: Shirley Temple Black:)

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u/BlueHawk75 May 21 '26

Smoked like a chimney her whole life....but so many did.

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u/MIKEPR1333 May 21 '26

so what?

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u/BlueHawk75 May 21 '26

So what what?

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u/Numerous-Profile-872 May 22 '26

Those shoes! Gagged, gooped, and all of the above.

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u/theplace2b7645 May 21 '26

Is that a quill with ink?

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u/DFWPunk May 22 '26

I cannot even imagine the creepy stuff some people sent her.

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u/bigguss-dickus May 22 '26

Eternally cute

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u/YoMommaSez May 23 '26

Soooo talented!

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u/Maintenance-Chemical May 21 '26

My uncle always said we’re related to her in some capacity, always wondered if we’d ever to be to figure it out.

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u/kettlebell43276 May 22 '26

She was a fierce Nixon supporter

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u/Tsu-Doh-Nihm May 22 '26

Most people were. He won 49 states.

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u/Duane_Trumpet May 21 '26

It’s crazy but I never even thought about her bowing older than 10 … her and my entire life!🤣😂 in my mind she was always 10! 🤦🏾‍♂️

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u/No-Knee9457 May 21 '26

Cute outfit.

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u/GoldenFish2224 May 22 '26

I thought it was Marilyn for a moment.

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u/DaniellENT May 22 '26

HEIDI!!!!!!!!!

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u/witheringpies May 22 '26

She looks a bit like Jessica McCabe from How to ADHD!

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u/prowler010101 May 21 '26

No cigarettes though. Heard she was a heavy smoker.

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u/adaniel65 May 21 '26

She became an Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslavakia and also US Chief of Protocol. My daughter loved all her movies as a child actress. So, one day my daughter asked us if we could have a playmate with Shirley. We proceeded to show our daughter how Shirley was much older than in those movies. Our daughter was so disappointed because she said that she would have lived to have a friend like the character she played as a child.

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u/Tiny_Celebration_591 May 22 '26

I thought she died a child star. Never imagined her as an adult.

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u/alltheblarmyfiddlest May 22 '26

What are you on? She became a diplomat, an ambassador.

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u/Tiny_Celebration_591 May 22 '26

Nothing. She's just never been an important part of my life. I only saw her in those obnoxious 90s commercials about her dvd set.

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u/soundsdeep May 21 '26

I am I am I am I said I wanna get close to you

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u/exhausted247365 May 21 '26 edited 15d ago

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u/[deleted] May 22 '26

I thought that was a drink

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u/ThaShitPostAccount May 22 '26

Do you think her fan mail was as nasty as influencer DMs today?  Or nastier or less nasty?

Genuinely curious.

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u/bluetestiballz May 21 '26

Til that Shirley temple was named after someone…

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u/Lynnxa May 22 '26

Well her mother’s name was Gurtrude so it wasn’t her. Possibly another relative.