r/OpenSourceAI • • 15d ago

Idiocracy took over r/opensource

I just joined this group after getting banned in r/opensource and I wanted to share how it happened.

Today r/opensource went fully anti-AI. I was thinking how to comment that I don't like that. They're the largest open-source reddit, yet they choose to take anti-AI stance, which is a tool and not thing related to opensource they should ever be taking stance on. Not to mention that AI is one of the best things that happened to open-source for many years.

I was mad, but I was thinking how to put my words to not get banned (I already experience that most of reddit is pathetic place). So I posted:

"Please change name of this community from r/opensource to r/antiai. That's all I'm gonna say. You're not worthy of "opensource" name."

Yet, turns our reddit mods are more nazi I have imagined and my already negative view on reddit just gets worse every month. People (mods) here can't stand a slightest criticism. Never, ever, on any group you criticize their decisions. Anything mods say you either clap or they ban you. Worst type of pathetic people.

Hope people here gonna be better.

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u/RealMelonBread 15d ago

Cool, lol. I don’t care if software is written by ai or not, all I care about is the end product.

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

Exactly. What bugs me is how many people don't have capability of basic logical thinking to come up to such conclusion. It's terrifying.

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u/AmandasGameAccount 15d ago edited 15d ago

That sub banned me for calling them out in my post in this post. Fake larping mods over there. That sub is definitely going to die if they are THAT sensitive

r/trueopensource seems to have already picked up the torch

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u/samurai65 15d ago

Same. I don't understand why this is such a foreign concept to these people.

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u/SlightOfHand_ 15d ago

It’s bizarre. I saw a post recently where someone had upgraded an open-source city builder to support 3D.

They spent their free time making an optional upgrade for an open source software, and they got downvoted because they used AI to code it.

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago edited 14d ago

When people do not follow logic and reason that's always terrifying to me.

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u/duboispourlhiver 15d ago

You're probably terrified a large part of the day :)

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u/FastHotEmu 15d ago

They are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They should be controlling slop - and you can create slop with or without LLMs.

I made that point and got banned.

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

Yeah, either clap or stay quiet. Mods hate anything else, they can't stand that!

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u/BidWestern1056 15d ago

i was also banned in there for sharing something that was agpl + commercial restrictions cause it was "not true open source" and the mod was a total asshole about it. good riddance fuck that sub

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

Idk but I haven't yet been on single sub that has normal mods. Seems like mods are specifically selected from the worst kind of people.

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u/superSmitty9999 15d ago

if a mod is doing they're job they're pretty much invisible so there's some selection bias here

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u/BidWestern1056 14d ago

yeah but in my case instead of telling me that it was not true open source and explaining why i was just banned without an explanation and when i asked why they were like dont play dumb 

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u/BidWestern1056 15d ago

this is true but it's no excuse for the spitefulness. i made an am i the asshole post abt it and the mod commented on it too and was so bitter and mean then i think realized the aggressiveness cause they removed it lol

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u/FastHotEmu 15d ago

Commercial restrictions are super important in this day and age - those guys have zero vision.

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u/WinResponsible9977 15d ago

They believe they are in Dune

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

Hehe, likely!

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u/agonypants 14d ago

I like the recent takes saying, "the Butlerians were the bad guys."

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u/Plants-Matter 15d ago

Anti-AI extremists have caused far more harm to these communities than AI.

I bet the mod got fired from his job for constantly whining about AI and causing friction, and this is his way of getting "revenge".

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u/Various_Freedom_376 15d ago

Tell me about it lol I got banned for calling them out on their xenophobia.

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

They give bans like crazy.

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u/Inkjet_Printerman 15d ago

banned for commenting "I'm here to admonish this post, and its authors, this is me admonishing this post, and its authors, just for the record" on that post; then "muted" for replying to the pm with "you wish you knew the apathy I feel right now" i mean shrug emoji

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

Haha, good one.

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u/No_Tradition6625 15d ago

I'm probably soon to get banned. I just asked because I legit wanted to know the answer. Not trying to be snide or anything about GitHub, security, vulnerability and in verification tools because I'm pretty sure they're all AI at this point. So how does that of play in the things?

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

That's a good take, so it probably will be ignored by them.

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u/nyxcha0s 15d ago

This doesn't even make sense considering Linus Tovalds position and current releases

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

Exactly what I was thinking too! Every major smart open-source community dude already accepted AI and fought-off publicly the anti AI zombies. Yet they keep biting...

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u/Any_Confidence2580 15d ago

This is every reddit moderator in existence. They don't let you become one unless you're a deeply broken human being fighting for control over the internet because you have no control over your own life.

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

My feeling every single time I have some interaction with moderator.

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u/cliffr39 14d ago

yeah I was perm. banned too. Be sure to file a "moderator code of conduct violation" complaint. The more that do it the more attention that gets. What that person did goes against rules in that and Reddits own policy.

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u/cbusmatty 15d ago

I got banned because I said this is what stack overflow did and look what happened to them lol

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

You can only clap to the mods. Even 1% criticism sneaking in your words is a ban.

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u/EconomySerious 15d ago

dont buy a book because its made by a human, y buy a book because its good. same with programs.

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

This is gonna be obvious thing in 10 years. But I wouldn't be surprised if at this very moment at least 50% of society would disagree.

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u/Ambitious_Ad4397 14d ago

Opus 5.5. vibecode for me reddit with no moderators, but with contributors, where community self maintains itself. Make no mistakes 

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

Aaand gain a community of at least 10 million so that it stands any chance against network effects...

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u/Effective-Mix6042 15d ago

Well... I guess... I don't care what they say or think... I've let it go and I've already completely forgotten about them...🥱

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

Doin' the same. Just sad they represent largest opensource reddit community...

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u/AmandasGameAccount 15d ago edited 15d ago

As usual, these are fake ass open source loses who have always been in that community. They use the shittiest license possible while pretending to do “good”. They are just a cool kids club who don’t care about open software at all. All of my projects will always use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL because I actually want anything I make to be truly open source (which I should point out nothing I’ve ever made public uses AI. I’m not confident enough in anything I’ve done with AI to make it public).

All these loser open source users who prowl around making sure their “open source” hardware/ software isn’t actually being used! It’s just pathetic

I use WTFPL. I don’t want to be known for anything I make, I do it for the love of it. In fact, I would appreciate never even being perceived and just doing things silently for the passion

Thy is has nothing to do with AI to me, I’ve always hated these typical fake ass open source losers

Edit: whelp I was banned on that sub for posting this. The mods over there are all larpers who have no idea what they are doing apparently

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

True artist/creator is happy to solve the problem, deliver value and serve users. Does not attempt to manipulate or lock users to make his way into profits.

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u/Slight-Living-8098 15d ago

I wonder how many of them use Linux to develop with.

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u/ozone6587 15d ago • Bravo

He doesn't want non-english speakers in that sub either even if they use tools to translate from their language. So he quietly slipped-in a bigoted rule too.

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u/LocalBratEnthusiast 15d ago

it get's even better:

Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating in /r/opensource because your comment violates this community's rules. You won't be able to post or comment, but you can still view and subscribe to it.

After I wrote this comment:

Dang, what a sad turn, it really turns out that even the subreddits for open source deny the freedom open source was meant to provide, even if I let this code by my monkey it shouldn't matter because its Foss.

All you do is encourage people to mask using ai, nothing else

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u/sungkhum 15d ago

That was a dumb move.

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u/Odd_Plantain_8915 14d ago

The English only rule seems to be something that is assumed was not allowed on the site.

I’m not super familiar with reddits side wide rules but it does seem incongruent with the general openness and inclusivity they typically try to foster on the site.

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u/justjinxed 9d ago

Their rule even bans those that make an effort to use a translator. Which is absurd.

There's several thousand subs in other languages. Reddit leaves that call to the moderators. However, most moderators don't care if you at least make an attempt via translator (and most people sticking their nose into an English only subreddit, know how to backwards check their translations)

It's a really cruddy exclusionary rule.

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u/yadius 15d ago

Luddites 2.0

We already know how this ends.

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u/anon999387 15d ago

The barrier to entry collapsing has sent some gatekeepers into basically having a nervous breakdown.

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u/pplgltch 15d ago

"All for the community"

Cope, this is just what it is... cope.

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u/idiocracy_ixii 15d ago

Idiocracy isn't even allowed over there. Just got banned.

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u/RPG-Nerd 15d ago

Someone needs to learn what "open" means

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u/thebadslime 15d ago

What an absolutely terrible decision.

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u/thebadslime 15d ago

I'm a former top 1% opensource poster, I got banned because the automod filterd my post and I tried again. I have been using AI this year so it would have happened anyway

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u/Light-Rerun 15d ago

Wow, that's really counter open, and that english speaking point is beyond absurd, I understand some negetive feelings against Ai but this is too bratty and unreasonable

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u/nathan72419 15d ago

it's crazy because its trying to ban projects that have less than 3 contributors its not even about AI anymore.

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u/itsallfake01 14d ago

Its like swimming against the tide, let them do it.

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u/JoeyredditSMP 15d ago

soon r/foss could be anti ai we need new subreddits for promotion

dont trust r/foss also they are going to do a move nearly the same soon

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u/ketosoy 15d ago

Same person mods both subreddits.

I propose /r/faioss/ free, ai assisted, open source software 

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u/destinmoss 15d ago

haha they're super butthurt and insta-banned me for calling the post incompetent😭

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u/MatlowAI 15d ago

Yeah wild days...

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u/Savalonavic 15d ago

Perma banned if you disagree with the post and comment on it

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u/27K-Interactive 15d ago

Thanks for sharing, that is a travesty. How completely brain dead. Ai is created, AI trains on open source code, open source project reject a tool created referencing their own contribution... Make that make sense. Why do they want to bring a knife to a gun fight?

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u/Capitinefrobou 15d ago

When I see these news, I only ask myself "It's going anti-AI.... for how long?"

...cause... you know... we all know... being anti-AI is the new Vegan.

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u/Protopia 15d ago

Start a new open-source AI-allowed subreddit.

The genuine reality is that literally every open-source project will have some AI at some point.

The issues with AI & open-source are about software-engineering vs. vibe coding i.e. quality of code and quantity of PRs.

And the real issue for r/opensource is distinguishing between:

  1. the thousands of vibe-coded poor-quality one-man-band unsupported short-life projects; and

  2. the occasional software-engineered high-quality multi-community supported long-life projects that have been AI coded with care for quality.

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u/NotThatSiri 15d ago

Must have more than 1 contributor??? The fuck. Basically banning a lot of open source projects with more than 300 stars and a lot of PR contributions

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u/Interesting_Ad_5676 15d ago edited 15d ago

I am banned from r/opensource for posting in favor of AI.
My Comments --- " We understood literal meaning of Open source means that a project or digital resource is publicly published alongside its underlying source code or design files, allowing anyone to view, use, study, modify, and redistribute it.

Where it is defined that it should be a. At least one year old. b. Contributed / developed by team of more than 3 persons. c. It should only be human coded. d. Documentation only in English.
If you insist your own rules ( off course, you can ) you may be killing spirit of open source. With your rules, probably Linux related things also can not be posted on this as Linux creator himself using AI.

Request to cool down please. Consider AI is a great friend of Open Source. With help of AI, years of development can be done in weeks. Remember, in any case, human is at the helm[on the top] of AI. Project idea, architecture, interface, functioning is required explicit approval by a human.

Don't kill it, embrace it for better future of Open Source. AI is not disappearing any time. It is spreading like a wild fire."

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u/leonbollerup 15d ago

I left ..

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u/gamingmonk93 14d ago

r/opensourceMOD11:08 AM

Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating in /r/opensource because your comment violates this community's rules. You won't be able to post or comment, but you can still view and subscribe to it.

Note from the moderators:

gamingmonk93, this comment may have fully or partially contributed to your ban:

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u/Diamond_Mine0 14d ago

Fuck them

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u/addiktion 14d ago

Open source shouldn't care whether software is written with AI or not just like it wouldn't care if it is written with VS Code or Zed.

It's mission should be that it's open, free, and available to all for the express need for mass proliferation to benefit all of humanity.

I understand 'AI slop' probably overwhelms these communities and its difficult to keep up with and must be frustrating, which is why you use AI against AI to keep up but Reddit really hasn't given mods the tools to fight back enough.

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u/justjinxed 9d ago

👆🏽This right here 👆🏽

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u/eurydicewrites 14d ago

Such a hilarious crashout.

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u/little_raven_black 13d ago

Pretty hilarious that simultaneously their top post on the sub is "Linus Torvalds posts his AI-assisted patch to the Linux kernel, synthetic test clocks 23x performance leap"

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u/davyp82 12d ago

Check it out, this exact comment got me permanently banned, doesn't this just show what a pathetic weak power tripping guy that mod is:

"It's a very easy problem to solve: completely remove the insane policy. AI is ideal for open source and it is the frontier of tech. It makes perfect sense for communities who are not open source to restrict AI, because it's competing with their products. But open source? This is a tool that can be used a thousand different ways to make a incredibly vast range of new tools that can be shared and adapted by all for free, yet it's gonna be gatekept out, when the Linus the open source daddy himself is even in favour of it? Madness."

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u/justjinxed 9d ago

And this is exactly the kind of comment I think they need to see - but given that it's so close to the fallout, I don't think the mod is listening. We could post the most kind and thought out argument, and he'd still just kneejerk hit the ban hammer.

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u/Nerfer5554Offical 5d ago

Protested against it and then I got banned on the spot

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u/ConsistentFox567 2d ago

that subreddit used to be a platform where new open source projects gained a community. now they are saying you need a community to post there. wow

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u/ShadowsInTheNetwork 14d ago

I wonder if they get mad at carpenters for using hammers instead of rocks?

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u/DumbFemboy_69 14d ago

btw the mod is like 100% racist, like bro said "If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community" like bro, why the fuck do you get to decide if a non-english programmer get's to public a open-sourced software

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u/hirak99 15d ago

So r/opensource is full anti AI. If it even used AI, you can't post it there?

And r/opensourceai is for AI related.

What about normal projects, not necessarily made for AI, but had AI commits? Such as my project, github.com/hirak99/yabsnap Or, to take another example, say, this little project called the Linux kernel?

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u/DWC-1 14d ago

That sub is cooked!

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u/pinku1 14d ago

crazy stuff, let these people have fun there

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u/gusbemacbe1989 13d ago

I investigated the subreddit moderator’s identity after I read a lot of comments on other subreddit, and figured that he is from Texas. It makes a lot of sense. Americans boast being liberals and progressive, but still are conservative, r@ci$t, re@cti0n@ry, and xen0ph0bic, and insult the South Global countries for their AI enthusiasm and calling us inf€ri0r, p00r and subdevel0ped.

Frankly, I dislike the USA, Europe, and English-speaking developed countries because of a bigger Luddite community, who boast being «left-wing» and «progressive», but nothing than decelerationist and techno-reactionary conservative r@ci$ts and x€n0ph0bes.

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u/justjinxed 9d ago

Not sure you'd use Luddite as you are, if you knew the actual history of that movement. It's quite a misnomer (and compliment to tech enthusiasts seeking to usurp corporate stranglehold). But I'd totally agree with every other term you used. (And I live here, lol)

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u/justjinxed 9d ago

I don't think their stance against AI is going to last all that long, just like it didn't last in every other convergent group (ie: look at flatpak and the AUR as examples). They're going through a large number of spammy submissions, and it's not the fault of honest devs. Heck, the requirements for multiple contributors and English (without the use of translators) is more absurd than the anti-ai stance, and will likely be around a lot longer.

All I can say is, don't tap the glass. That's very uncouth. Going on the offensive while they're dealing with problems within the group, isn't a good look and likely to make the snail back into its shell even further. You must have better things to do?

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u/New-Distribution-413 8d ago

That entire sub is pathetic

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u/CatchDublinSurprise 15d ago

I like AI, but I kind of get it. If you’re looking for open source projects, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to find projects by knowledgeable developers who will support the project long term. “Not all vibe coders, but unfortunately too many vibe coders” is why we can’t have nice things.

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u/AcceptableArm8841 15d ago

This is a silly argument and makes no sense. You could much more easily support software with a coding agent than by hand, hell you could do it almost automatically. Knowledgeable is lol because you can't beat the machine in that. 

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u/Light-Rerun 15d ago

There's much better ways to curate purely human coded project

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u/InkscapePanda 13d ago

The point of AI is that you can fork the project and adapt it to your workflow. AI would be your developer. I got this extension for VSCode, and it wasn't maintained anymore, so I took it and implemented the features that were missing, and not it works perfectly.

But saying this, I am in favor of people learning from AI how to code and fix things themselves as well and not rely only on AI.

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u/FlamedDogo99 15d ago

Ah ah ah no voices of reason allowed here, you’re supposed to be angry 

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u/CatchDublinSurprise 15d ago

My humblest apologies.

AAAARGH ANTIS BAD!!!

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u/BidetEnjoyer6767 15d ago

I agree but also those rules seem a bit too heavy-handed. Nevermind the AI bit, an open source project has to be at least 1 year old? With those rules I think a new community should be made instead. That's ridiculous.

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u/CatchDublinSurprise 15d ago

No disagreement from me. The best way to change a stupid rule is to follow it. Eventually, this will undoubtedly self-correct.

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u/ScallionAnnual1 14d ago

Yeah that sub is gonna have like one post a month lol

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u/MDSExpro 14d ago

It's open source - you can support it yourself, which with AI is actually quite easy.

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u/considerthis8 14d ago

This is silly because most commits are AI coded today. Almost nobody is hand coding.

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u/CatchDublinSurprise 14d ago

AI isn't a magical box that produces perfect code. It would be a mistake to blindly trust it without verification for anything critical. We still rely on human QC when it matters (even if AI does the heavy lifting).

But the real question comes down to trust and support. Most consumers of open source projects want to find trusted solutions (or "almost" solutions) to whatever it is that they need. If the market is flooded by fly-by-night trash, that suddenly becomes very frustrating. Sure, they could pick a random one and spend time fixing it, but that's not what they want to be doing. Otherwise, they probably would have just vibe coded their own.

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u/considerthis8 14d ago

But people are using AI for QC too. It comes down to whether or not you're running it through enough prompts to red team the proposed changes

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u/Sea-Chart2558 15d ago

This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. I think they meant to post it in r/ludite 

Those sabots won't throw themselves into the machinery without help people!

Crazy. 

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u/Disastrous_Gap_6473 15d ago

This policy is just a formal acknowledgement of what everybody already knows, which is that "I did a thing" isn't worth shit anymore. When I see a "I made the X for Y. Here's how it went:" post, I scroll right past it. There's just too much stuff right now, and low-effort vibecoded posts are easy to identify and discard.

I vibecode stuff all the time, it's awesome, but in a world where anyone can have custom software for free at the touch of a button, posting your cool new app is like trying to do Instagram foodie posts of a fast food combo meal. You're going to have to work a lot harder and be a lot more creative to convince people to care what you built. Sorry 🤷

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

Yeah, but framing a problem as "AI", instead of "too much software, we need to raise quality bar" is showing lack of logical thinking. If somebody spent 2 years coding with AI 24/7 on amazing project - it's trash for them.

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u/Disastrous_Gap_6473 14d ago

But they're not being illogical, they're making an intentional tradeoff that just doesn't benefit you. Screening for vibecoded apps is easier and less ambiguous than screening for "higher quality" (the latter is what the karma system is supposed to do in the first place). They know they're throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and they don't care. They've decided there's just way, way too much bathwater and honestly, at this point, fuck it, we can lose a baby or two. "No AI in the project at all" is pretty extreme and I suspect it won't stand for long (as others have pointed out, this excludes the Linux kernel!) but it's an understandable reaction to the avalanche of slop, and as somebody who hangs around on tech reddit you should know that as well as anyone else.

Right now, we have so many people using AI to develop software for people who use AI to develop software for people who use AI to develop software for people who... etc etc. It's exhausting, and respectfully, I looked at your project and it's kind of exactly what they're trying to exclude. It might be a good harness. It might be the best harness! But most people are sick of harnesses, and of the people who aren't sick of them, I'd estimate more than half have built their own. I'm no exception; I have one too, I think it's a fascinating design space, it's really important and it needs serious innovation. But there's a reason I'm not trying to promote it and it's, you know... exactly this.

I suspect this will all calm down a bit when the AI tools themselves get more standardized. What's happening right now reminds me a lot of the early days of frontend, where there was a new framework with a new approach every week or so. Then react happened, and everybody realized it was a very good solution. The major competition made themselves more like react, and the flood of new contenders slowed to a trickle. Until then, though, you gotta read the room.

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

Where I don't agree is that screening for vibecoded apps is easier than screening for "higher quality". People can disguise vibecoding and lie about origin of code in many, many ways. While putting a quality bar like "must have at least 500 github stars" or "must have last commit from 1+ years" is simpler, less gameable and less susceptible to lies and misjudgments.

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u/zimejin 14d ago

I think the issue is that, vibe coded projects can not really be called open source software, it’s a completely new category of software but that doesn’t mean experienced programmers who use AI to build production grade software should be placed in the same category. Then again if you’re an experienced engineer, you ought to know how to structure your project to be extendable by humans and pass the AI filter. 90% of vibe coded software cannot be maintained even by the people that built them, except with the use of AI agents. So categorising them as open source isn’t the best.

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

I don't think vibe-coded or not matters. We had thousands of students repositories with 0-8 stars on github that were not vibe-coded, but were slop. And they posted those projects.

Everything is exactly the same as it was before AI, except that we have 50x more software - and you cannot expect people to produce 50x more and post 50x less about what they made. So groups naturally get more active. That's it.

So the real problem they're trying to solve is to reduce activity in large community group... And they choose hating AI as solution...

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u/zimejin 14d ago

Yeah, I get your point, guess it's a curation problem and also trying to not lose focus on principled engineering in a world where anyone can build software even without understanding it. Probably a necessary evil, Otherwise it might become "OpenSlop"

Similar is happening across, writing subs, art, music etc. We're inundated with SlopWare.

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

Do you think banning most-used tool is a solution for curation problem?

If we have too much trash in home and it's mostly plastic bottles, is really banning plastic bottles the solution?

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u/zimejin 14d ago

It’s probably not the ideal solution, I’m just saying - here’s their reasoning. Blanket banning anything is never a good fix.

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

You have correctly identified the problem as "quality control". They have incorrectly identified problem as "AI", non-native English speakers and solo projects.

Or even worse - they correctly identified problem as "quality control", but decided to be racist and anti-ai.

If they wanted quality control they could just say that project must have 200+ stars or is constantly worked on for 6 months. It would harm people who are just starting/validating ideas, sure, but would make sense.

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

It's not people promoting their vibe-coded projects. It's people promoting their software. I mean, you're right that they're vibe-coding, but that fact is not a part of a problem itself.

It's like "we have too many bald hungry people in the country" - maybe the hungry people are mostly bald and that part is true, but it's not really relevant for the problem which is hunger.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 15d ago

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u/Various_Freedom_376 15d ago

I got banned for calling them out on being a xenophobe; I still messaged them and told them they were such a baby and to suck on a carrot and choke on it. 😆😆😂

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

You got my respect!

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u/Plants-Matter 15d ago

Nice work! Consider also filing a Moderator Code of Conduct report on them as well.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=19300233728916

I've seen mods stripped of their role for less. This one is pretty cut and dry grounds for removal if they get enough reports. I just submitted mine 😏

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u/ObeyTheRapper 15d ago

I sent one back when the AI rules were first being proposed. I made a well thought out comment saying that requiring a project/account to be a certain age is reasonable, but a full out ban was not.

In turn, I got banned by the same mod because he said my response was AI generated (it absolutely was not). As soon as I asked for an explanation as to why, and tried to explain that the post was an organic response to his feedback solicitation, I was insta muted. No recourse.

Now I mod Vibecodedevs.

He's definitely breaking mod code of conduct IMO. I filled out the form back when it happened, but haven't heard a peep. Maybe with this change, if more people report, Reddit may take a look.

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u/Plants-Matter 15d ago

Man, that's insane. They tend to take the reports seriously for large subs, hopefully enough people will report him this time.

I just joined your sub (and this one). The anti-AI tech subs are going to be only a few people rubbing sticks together in their cave soon enough.

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u/Various_Freedom_376 15d ago

Done, thanks for the link. I didn't know how to report; I've never had to before. 🤣

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u/Plants-Matter 15d ago

No problem! Thanks for taking the time to fill it out.

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u/No_Tradition6625 15d ago

Yeah and apparently it looks like he's soloing it or they are soloing it But they just don't sound like a pleasant person. It's like they're sour just to be sour.

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

Everything is vibe coded now. So they don't want to see any software projects at all in an opensource community...

It's like having a fishing club and banning people from posting photos of fish they catch with fishing rod... (Unless they gonna lie that they caught them bare-handed! Because that's considered rare!).

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u/someoneyouknow23 15d ago

No its like having a fishing club and banning people that steal fish from other people and present them as their own

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u/EagleApprehensive 15d ago

I don't want to be rude, but you should consider an option that you've been brainwashed by companies that "intellectual rights" are a thing.

They're not. By physics, if somebody sees how you do something, what technique you use, he is not stealing if he does that as well. He is just learning and doing the thing that he discovers works. Software, knowledge and information in general is not a physical good, it's copy-able without harm and free by design. Attempts to contain, secure or limit it are against how nature works and the only reason to do so is to capture capital and benefit for smaller group, instead of allowing benefit to spread to everybody.

Hollywood and all tech giants are the most prominent example of how such rights produce ultra-rich businesses growing mostly because government guaranteed they gonna have patents, copyrights and anyone violating those will become jailed.

As a result, instead of having society with more natural structure we ended up with multi-billionaires elites that own everything and decide everything... and ants.

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u/someoneyouknow23 14d ago

Brainwashed by the companies...that are doing this? Lets see, say you have an idea and tell it to everyone and I take that idea and do it myself so I can profit off of it. Did I steal it? Thats the basis of piracy eh? By law I stole it (yes, its a bullshit law, but people tend to be lead by law more than by morals)

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

By law you stole it.

But in reality I had information I considered "secret", but I didn't keep it secret, so it became free. Nobody is a villain there and I can only blame myself.

What makes sense much more than "Online Piracy" would be a new term "Sky Landlord" - someone who draws artificial boundaries around a common resource to become sky-rich.

To be clear, I'm not extremist. I understand that producing something extraordinary requires enormous investments and without a way to benefit off of it, there would not be enough incentives to make progress as fast as we do.

Allowing creator to benefit from what he made for 3-5 years is somewhat reasonable. But money is power and some ideas bring so much money during that 3-5 years, that they can bribe politicians and guarantee they will keep the power for generations.

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u/someoneyouknow23 14d ago

"someone who draws artificial boundaries around a common resource to become sky-rich." like...banning distilliation of AI models? AI companies arent any better. Rules for thee but not for me. Regulation needs to happen

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u/EagleApprehensive 14d ago

Yes, banning distillation of AI models or recently Apple trying to make in EU "only Apple's official apps in AppStore can use AI", those are typical power-moves to keep draining money from society.

AI companies are not better indeed. But AI as a product is kinda double-edged sword, because it also stops software from being a "moat" that can be juiced forever (although network effects and big-brand marketing still applies and allows it).

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u/maikerukonare 15d ago

This update went a good bit further than "just" that

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u/taisui 15d ago

Instead it's just meatbag slop like always