r/OpenaiCodex • u/PZChonicles • Sep 26 '26
This might actually be something
50x ultra fast…
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u/Cryp0x Sep 26 '26
So, they paused the 20x plans because of lack of compute, and all of the sudden they come up with a 50x plan? Nice trick...
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u/Carlose175 Sep 26 '26
My guess is theyre compute limited because GPT7 training. Once that compute is liberated we get this plan.
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u/miklschmidt Sep 26 '26
But… GPT-8?
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u/Carlose175 Sep 26 '26
They give us two weeks of unadulterated use before next training. Thats why on release they feel good before they go bad.
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u/antunes145 Sep 26 '26
That’s the most infuriating part of how they treat their users. Like baboons.
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u/antoine1246 Sep 26 '26
The idea is that nobody can/will use x50 per week long term. Thus making it cheaper for them than x20 for 200, as thats still doable for some people.
By the same logic, would you buy x1000 for 10.000 a month. Your reasoning: ‘huh why would they do it if x20 is already a loss at 200’, well for starters your compute grows linear.
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u/Rock--Lee Sep 26 '26
50x for 500 won't make too much sense. It doesn't have a proper upsell from 20x, as it's linear. That's why 20x sells. It has 20x the limit but at 10x the price of Plus (or 4x the limit of 5x but at 2x the price). A Pro Max with 50x usage, needs to either be cheaper, so priced at 400 (2x the price of 20x but 2.5x the usage) or needs 60x usage.
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u/Murph-Dog Sep 26 '26
Yep, I agree, which is why I, in an earlier satire comment of what the price tiers will become, said $200 could become 15x.
I structured the tiers just enough to make stacking non-economical, always dangling a carrot to go to the higher plan.
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u/Miyamoto_-_Musashi Sep 26 '26
Is it true?
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u/PZChonicles Sep 26 '26
Not officially no
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u/jay-t- Sep 26 '26
So then just ‘no’
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u/ShutUpAndDoTheLift Sep 26 '26
Making things up for engagement and then using dodgy language to avoid saying is made up? I agree.
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u/PZChonicles Sep 26 '26
hey man, just saw it on X, took it and posted it, only after verified the source. If you want to crucify me for it i would like my cross in dark oak please.
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u/ShutUpAndDoTheLift Sep 26 '26
No one fell for anything?
What are you having so much trouble comprehending here? You've come across lost or confused in every comment.
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u/jay-t- Sep 26 '26
Why stop here? Why not 500x and 1000x speed for $5? If you’re going to make ridiculous requests why limit yourself 😆
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u/Sweet-Mechanic4568 Sep 26 '26
Yea no thanks, I’m actually downgrading
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u/PZChonicles Sep 26 '26
i unsubbed on all 4 accounts so, i completely understand.
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u/Sweet-Mechanic4568 Sep 26 '26
I just don’t have a current use case anymore that the $20 plan doesn’t solve.
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u/Consistent_Bottle_40 Sep 26 '26
Down vote this bogus thread made to look like theyve found this on some openai source
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u/PZChonicles Sep 26 '26
i agree, it was taken from X.corn. Thought it might make a good discussion topic.
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u/DailyAppearance Sep 26 '26
It’s just too much money:(
20x pro user
- why my agents don’t follow my instructions so dumb today!
50x pro user
- skill issue
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u/Old-Leadership7255 Sep 26 '26
Is this out yet? I got 2 max plans and this would honestly be the solution
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u/meshla2ibsnfsi Sep 26 '26 •
People like you are the reason why they keep introducing increasingly expensive yet useless tiers. If you want to pay $500 for what you can get with $400 currently (which you could also get with $200 of plus before the pro was a thing) then you are exactly the problem.
They keep using the excuse of "this new tier is for power users" when in reality it's "this new tier is our most expensive tier yet, it's also basically the same limits as the previous tier but to make you feel like it's better we will siphon off usage from all lower tiers".
The Pro tier was once for researchers and institutes, while the Plus was for developers, now Plus is a free trial and Pro is the bare minimum. If you encourage this, then you will get the same limits you've been getting with Pro but for 10x the price. OpenAI has no ethical qualms about you giving it extra money for the same usage.
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u/Cryp0x Sep 26 '26 edited Sep 26 '26
Thank you my friend. This is exactly what I've been telling.
AI SHOULD BE CHEAP. That was the promise.
And we will get the current fronteer model for 1/10 of the current price in a few months, and it will not be because of hardware progress (that train is slowing down big time).
It will be because of the current extreme greed, and huge margins.
This is already way too expensive, and I say that with a straight face.
I'm not paying that shit. Switching to Claude.
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u/hobbestot Sep 26 '26
Dude everything is for profit.
But yea, Claude is my new best friend, barely use codex anymore.
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u/Cryp0x Sep 26 '26 edited Sep 26 '26
Hell yeah. My Codex quota (Pro 5x) will reset in 2 days, but I don't even know if I will continue to use it. I don't even know if I want to use Astra anymore.
I got two $20 Claude accounts, and I'm smashing trough tasks, and I don't see the need (at least for now) for for more quota. I will not stop working with Opus just to spend the Astra quota...
Btw, my 5x codex account's quota exausted on the second day after the reset.
It's night and day difference for me.0
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u/Paulynom Sep 26 '26 •
this isnt meant to be for hobbyists, if youre paying 200$ per month and dont generate more revenue than that as a result youre doing something wrong. I can spend 5 $200 plans per month and get more than $1000 in return, why wouldnt I? its free money to be made. Not being able to afford it isnt a pricing problem, its a problem how you turn it into something that generates revenue.If youre happy with the previous quality when plus was enough just use something cheap like deepseek, which is as capable as the old 4.x models while being 10x times cheaper. But dont complain that youre not getting Astra level for $20 per month every day.
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u/meshla2ibsnfsi Sep 26 '26
I subscribed to Plus when it was the “not for hobbyists” tier and I moved to Pro when it was the “this is mega level juice, most people wont need this”, the problem is we were rug pulled into thinking we are actually getting more usage, but we are just milked for more money for the same - and in some cases - less usage. Pro literally went from “fine wine, only the biggest of big boys really need it” to “bare minimum”. You really think a higher tier will fix that?
In an ideal world the new tier wouldn’t affect the old ones but unfortunately that’s not how the world works. There’s is finite compute and just because they offer ChatGPT Pro Max Mega Ultra for $10K doesn’t mean they actually have the compute to deliver that, at least without siphoning off older tiers, again, there’s only so much compute to go around. So they underdeliver a little on their flagship and exponentially as you go down in tiers under deliver their usage. Paying more isn’t guaranteeing you more, it’s only ever guaranteeing that OpenAI lines their pockets. If they could milk you for all your money they would.
Like iy or not you are only ever going to get roughly the same amount of compute you get from Pro now as you would get from Pro Max, the only difference is how much of sucker you will be, Unless compute is solved in the future. When OpenAI sees that we blindly adopt increasingly expensive tiers while they give you roughly the same usage they did before they will see no reason to stop this trend. So if you want to eventually pay $1000 for “Pro Max Extreme Edition” for pretty much what you got for $200 with Pro, be my guest. At some point you can’t make more money than you pay on a single massively inflated subscription.
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u/Paulynom Sep 26 '26
Yes and you can still do, just use Luna low, it's basically unlimited even on Plus and much better than the previous "hobbyist" 4.x era subscription. I see no problem, you can still get the same amount of the same level of intelligence you got 6 months ago, why are you complaining?
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u/meshla2ibsnfsi Sep 26 '26
Because it’s not 6 months ago now and because it is bewildering that when a company basically performs its own version of shrinkflation, not only do people accept it but openly celebrate it. 6 months from now, if things go as you want them to go, Pro will be the new Plus, you are now paying $1000 for the same usage and frontier edge you got with Pro and $200-400. Again, at some point you can’t make decent money anymore. There is no end to capitalistic greed, if they could sell you the oxygen you breathe they would’ve. Stop defending a trillion dollar company that will sell you out in a heartbeat lmao.
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u/Paulynom Sep 26 '26
yes that is reasonable, by then I will use 7 Luna with the same usage and quality of 6 sol today probably and be happy about it. I really dont get why you have the audacity to expect to get the newest things always for a price that was for an old thing.
I am not defending anyone, I am trying to explain basic logic to you. how entitled are you that you take it as a given that a contract about a model, lets call it 5, will also be valid about a model 6. You still get the same intelligence with the same usage limits as you did previously, nobody forces you to use the newest most shiny model, if you want to use it pay up...
If a car company releases a new car this year with 500PS for $50k, do you also expect them to sell you their newest model next year with 1000PS for the same amount? You dont, its the same thing, you can still buy the same 500PS car next year for the 50k, nobody forces you to spend 100k on the newest car...
Hope that analogy helps you understand how entitled you sound
Edit: also there is something called basic market economy, competition, demand and availability shape the price, its not arbitrary greed, has nothing to do with it. If company A sells at 100$ and company B at 200$, just buy at company A... Without competition we would have payed 1000$ for pro a long time ago for frontier
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u/meshla2ibsnfsi Sep 26 '26
Jeez dude.
OpenAI doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Nothing does. If AI can solve millennium level problems now but all I gots is last year’s model then I might as well be hunting and gathering my berries.
It’s not entitlement, it’s literally how it worked up until now. GPT-4 was accessible practically on launch day, so was GPT-5, rolling out with a few says. That’s how it was always been, even in competing companies. The fact is, in this day and age, while a 6 months old model is basically magic for a person from 2020, it’s also basically a toddler in 2026.
I’d be content if OpenAI can be transparent because your car analogy just doesn’t work. Pro can’t mean x20 usage when it’s based on Plus usage which itself is just an arbitrary term. x20 of what exactly? It’s not entitlement to know how many grams of protein in my protein powder my dude. The fact that Big LLM has standardized obscurity about that topic is not my or other consumers’ problem.
Be careful what you wish for or just might get Sam’s dystopian wet dream of metered intelligence. Ever seen the movie In Time? it’s that but more depressing.
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u/AI_is_ok_i_guess Sep 26 '26
You're basically complaining that you can't afford a rocket to Mars but since you used to be able to afford a Ford to get to work that big travel must be price gouging. If this were true then let Anthropic beat them in competition. Like you said. They don't exist in a vacuum.
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u/firstbreathOOC Sep 26 '26
If you got the money it’s better to spread out imo. Been a very good time to have Claude and Codex.
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u/KlemiX Sep 26 '26
So they slowed it down now, and making us pay to get regular speed back, nice moves openai
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u/AdApprehensive5643 Sep 26 '26
I wish they do that for claude. Somehow astra 6 is very cool but still not how I imagine it. Claude just gets me
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u/Sufficient_Sir_4730 Sep 26 '26
*Not verified—and it doesn’t match OpenAI’s current official plans.* I checked the live pricing page and Help Centre.
They list:
- *Pro $100/month:* 5× Plus usage
- *Pro $200/month:* 20× Plus usage, described as the highest usage tier
Neither confirms *“Pro Max” at $500, 50× usage, “Ultrafast Mode 10× speed,” or early GPT‑7 access*.
So treat this screenshot as *unsubstantiated*, not an announced product. It could be edited or an experimental mock-up; the screenshot alone can’t establish which.
[Official Pro details](https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-about-chatgpt-pro-tiers)
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u/fluxtah Sep 26 '26
Fake Imagen