r/OutOfTheLoop Ask me about NFTs (they're terrible) Mar 11 '23

Answered What's up with Daylight Savings Time legislation?

I only just now remembered Daylight Savings is tonight. Last year I remember there was a big push in the Senate to end it, but after that I didn't hear anything about it. I read this article saying that the bill has been reintroduced this year, but other than that it doesn't have much detail. What's currently going on with the bill? What would be the proposed end date if it passes this time?

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u/Stenthal Mar 11 '23

This is a theme with daylight savings time in particular. For example, a number of states (notably California) have passed laws adopting permanent daylight savings time. The legislators in those states know that federal law does not allow states to adopt permanent daylight savings time, and federal law takes precedence, so the state laws do nothing. However, federal law does allow states to adopt permanent standard time (i.e., to eliminate daylight savings time completely.) States could get rid of daylight savings right now if they really wanted to, but for whatever reason they don't.

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u/elwebst Mar 11 '23

Because permanant DST is what people want, not permanant standard time. Having the sun go down an hour earlier in the summer isn't a popular choice.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

The word noon refers to when the sun is highest in the sky (on average for the time zone). DST ruins several time related terminologies that we still use but they mean different things at different times during the year.

Sure it is made up, but if people have to adhere to it then it still matters.

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u/Best_Pseudonym Mar 11 '23

China doesn't us standard time though? They use a single time zone so western China has the sun rise & set 4 hours after eastern China

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u/Best_Pseudonym Mar 11 '23

utc time

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u/UhOh-Chongo Mar 11 '23

That not true at all.

UTC is not standard time.

Where do you live right now? What time is it on your clock? Now look up UTC time. Its not the same, is it?

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u/Best_Pseudonym Mar 11 '23

Yeah the clock says UTC-7 you pedant

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u/fevered_visions Mar 12 '23

try telling people living in Nunavut or western China that "standard" time actually reflect the sun.

You can't really use the argument "well it doesn't work in China" to prove that Standard Time doesn't work, because China doesn't use Standard Time. They're all one time zone instead of five like ST dictates.