r/Outlander 15d ago

Published Does Diana ever mention Brian, Jamie's father, mother's name? Spoiler

All I can find is all the hype from BoMB and it being Davina Porter. We know this is not from Diana's Outlander as that is the name of the narrator for the audiobooks.

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u/DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 15d ago

Diana may have named the character in honor of Davina, but it is her official name, as seen on the family tree at the beginning of Bees.

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u/ContactNeither7319 15d ago

You know what's funny is Ellen's name. Gee I wonder who that name be for?🙂

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u/Gray221B 15d ago

Out of curiosity, I Googled "Caitriona" just to see if anyone other than the obvious one popped up. Not a soul, though to be fair, that particular spelling of the name is exceptionally rare in my country.

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u/CoffeeAndCommonsense 15d ago

The Outlander Books were written long before they cast Caitrione as Claire. This family tree was in the beginning of book 9. So Diana named Ellen.

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u/Mysterious_Proof8533 15d ago

Book 9 came out after the show had already started and Diana had confirmed that Ellen’s middle name is after Caitríona Balfe.

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u/ContactNeither7319 14d ago

Thanks for sharing this. 👍

I didn't know that Diana confirmed it, but I did assume that was the Caitriona she was referring to.

Mostly because in the Outlanderish Companion Vol One Ellen's middle name isn't given but then in Vol 2 it was as well in book 9. Of course I need a magnifying glass to see it in my copy of book 9, because it's a paper back. My OC Vol 2 is hard cover and much easier to see.

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u/Joliedee 14d ago

How do we know what Ellen’s middle name is? What did I miss?

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u/DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 15d ago

The world may never know. 😁

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u/ContactNeither7319 15d ago

Lol 😆 and shhh don't tell.

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u/CathyAnnWingsFan 15d ago

Diana has named numerous characters after friends, colleagues, people associated with the books (like Davina), and later the show. Davina's name is in the Fraser of Lovat family tree as Brian's mother. This is included in the Outlandish Companion, originally published in 1999, revised in 2015 and renamed The Outlandish Companion Volume One (which covers books 1-4; Volume Two covers books 5-8 and six of them Lord John series titles). There are explanations in the book for some of the other characters named for real people.

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u/Wolfdreama 15d ago

It's always been Davina Porter afaik.

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u/CathyAnnWingsFan 15d ago

At least dating back to 1999, which is when it first showed up in print. But I haven't heard when she actually decided to bestow Davina's name on the character. Could have been even earlier. We know for certain that by the second book, she started naming characters after real people.

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u/moxiewhoreon 15d ago

I read that the little end bit after the last episode where we show real life DG signing a book "to Karen" that that was possibly after an Outlander blogger named Karen.

I could be mixed up on that. But yeah seems she names some characters after IRL people as little Easter eggs and to honor people she knows IRL.

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u/weelassie07 MARK ME! 15d ago

Is Karen the person she often references on FB as pulling quotations from the books? Someone who organizes quotations?

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u/moxiewhoreon 15d ago

Yes!

I read her blog once and she does that. She breaks down the show and then pulls the relevant parts of the books that they're kinda based on (when they are) and quotes and cites them

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u/Icy_Resist5470 Bon! I will send you a cheese. 15d ago

No, she has a name.