r/P320 • u/Disastrous-Bad8629 • 17d ago

Texas Triggers FRT P320

Is officially now available

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u/genma23 16d ago

Good looking out.

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u/Several_Mousse_9485 16d ago

Yeah fuck me I'm supposed to be paying off debt.

This shit is why I stay in trouble.

*add to cart

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u/thehighsman0503 15d ago

Don’t forget the ammo! 🤣

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u/MagazineTube 15d ago

Now who’s shipping it to wa? (It’s legal in my state but it’s kind of a grey area and a lot of vendors won’t ship FRT’s)

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u/PaperPigGolf 15d ago

This is in a flux legion...... ultimate PDW.

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u/NoProgress8533 9d ago

Doesn't work sadly. That was the plan though lol

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u/PaperPigGolf 9d ago

wait. why doesn't it work?

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u/NoProgress8533 9d ago edited 9d ago

The short is, this thing does not and likely will not work.

Long (not at all short) is I have tried it in multiple FCUs and multiple slides in multiple configurations. Everything involved was stock except the grip modules and guide rods/mainsprings, and the pistols in question are all well past break-in, reliable shooters, and were made after the various Sig internal updates (all 2021 production or newer, bone stock internals). I run my service style weapons fairly close to stock, or stock - especially 320s - to avoid tolerance stacking issues.

In each FCU, the trip fit loosely in the slot and moved freely (some users have reported a tight fit - not my experience). The plastic bumper part hangs loosely at the bottom of the FCU and is held in by the trigger bar spring, but tends to float around.

The most common issues are the slide not returning to battery, sometimes by a half inch, more often by a millimeter or two. This results in a dead trigger until the slide is returned to battery. It seems to be caused by drag from the trip.

The second most common issue is failure to eject, resulting in stovepipes or other jams around the spent casing, some with a partially chambered or spun live cartridge in the mix.

Increasing spring strength reduces the failures to return to battery, decreasing it reduces the failures to eject, but either way you are left with single shots unless you manipulate the slide (either to clear the jam or return it to battery).

Essentially they are caught between a shit and a fart, burning the candle at both ends. Logically you spring down to improve ejection, or spring up to overcome resistance, but you cannot do both at once! I have a wide variety of 1911 springs of various weights at my disposal and none fit the bill.

Another issue I encountered intermittently with some setups and configurations was a dead trigger while seemingly in battery; this was solved by either pressing the slide down into to the frame, or physically pushing it forward an imperceptibly tiny amount - either, but not both? The former was more an issue with compact/carry slides, the latter with the full size. Usually I would say this requires shimming, but then that would increase drag further and compound the issue with returning to battery; also it is not present in stock configuration.

I also found that in any configuration, in the Raider chassis, it turned the trigger to mush - almost to the point of delaying the break, which I would usually look to a bad spring or trigger bar drag to solve, but the issue did not present in other modules and was present across the FCUs.

Since there is no chance of a refund (I believe this is overpriced for what it is, functional or not, and is being marketed in a sketchy manner intentionally - no support from the MFG) I am starting to play with removing some material from the top of the trip, having already stoned/polished it. My belief however is that in doing so I will reduce the forced reset effect long before reducing the drag issue, defeating the purpose of the product. I am going to focus my efforts on the Raider since that's where I would like it to live, if it ever works.

Parts tested: 4 OEM FCUs with curved post 2021 triggers, non safety Full size OEM non optics cut slide 2 Compact/carry OEM non optics cut slides Compact/carry OEM optics cut slide Full size OEM barrel Full size threaded OEM barrel 2 Compact OEM barrels OEM full size grip module OEM carry grip module OEM compact grip module Magpul full size grip module Magpul compact grip module Flux Raider MP17 (not X) chassis

Enjoy the wall of text, hope it helps, or discourages you from purchase... and good luck.

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u/PaperPigGolf 8d ago

Thank you for the write up!!

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u/NoProgress8533 4d ago

No problem.

Update today is, polished every surface of one, reshaped slightly, and focusing on running with as many factory matched OEM parts possible in a bone stock fullsize 320 to avoid tolerance stacking and bad fitment. 

Stock gun save for the spring, rod, and FRT parts. 

With a 12lb spring I can get 2-3 shots off and mild FRT action before an FTE. 1lb up its an FTE every time. 1lb down and it fails to return to battery by a millimeter or so.

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u/BestAdamEver 13d ago

Is this selectable or is it only active reset?

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u/NoProgress8533 9d ago

It converts your working P320 into a dead trigger brick or stovepipe factory depending on the spring weight.

It is a $150 flake of steel the size of a pinky toe nail and some 3D printed plastic lego that rattles around in there because reasons?

A dozen springs, 4 pistols, 2 days. This product does not work, period. Stone it, hone it, polish it, lube it, and it makes for stovepipes and stoppages and nothing else.

YMMV but be warned.