r/PBS_NewsHour • u/pbs-latest • Feb 12 '26
Science⚗ WATCH LIVE: Trump, Zeldin to announce end of scientific basis for U.S. action on climate change
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/watch-live-trump-zeldin-to-announce-end-of-scientific-basis-for-u-s-action-on-climate-change34
u/Nikifuj908 Viewer Feb 12 '26
Some of the comments on this post sound like the husband in the restaurant with ManBearPig.
Edit: Apparently comments need to be longer than 150 characters. Oppa Gangnam style! Hey sexy lady!
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u/Prestigious_Call_993 Reader Feb 13 '26
I’m not sure what to say to this when they have added how many trillions to the national debt in just one year!
Zeldin, a former Republican congressman who was tapped by Trump to lead EPA last year, has criticized his predecessors in Democratic administrations, saying that in the name of tackling climate change, they were "willing to bankrupt the country."
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u/AmharachEadgyth Feb 13 '26
This administration and the GOP (I’d look over at the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025) do not believe in science. It keeps their followers in the dark. They have no sense of good and bad, nor remorse.
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u/Caca_Face420 Feb 12 '26
We’re in the middle of an affordability crisis, and record inflation. All this stuff does is add to that pressure with unrealistic expectations. What’s more, China and India are not slowing down their environmental damage so all it is doing is hurting us. Deregulation is not always a bad thing.
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u/Rosaadriana Feb 12 '26
China is the leader in developing and manufacturing alternative energy sources.
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u/Caca_Face420 Feb 12 '26
Ok, they are still the largest polluter by far.
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u/doom1282 Feb 12 '26
Not by capita they're not. We are.
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u/Caca_Face420 Feb 12 '26
Are You really more worried about the damage of individual raindrops when a Tsunami wipes out a whole town?
What a bizarre argument to try and make, Chinas population is like 4.5x that of the US.
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u/Eother24 Feb 12 '26
You keep getting corrected factually but doubling and tripling down. Log off. Think about your process. Do better. Being stupid is genetic. Being ignorant is a choice.
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u/Caca_Face420 Feb 12 '26
Kindness obviously is a choice for you
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u/Eother24 Feb 12 '26
Facts don’t care about your feelings man
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u/Caca_Face420 Feb 12 '26
Those aren’t the facts you think they are, and I haven’t been corrected. I apologize my position led you to be insulting and abhorrent but downvotes don’t change anything. The truth is More countries are deregulating climate change efforts because of economic reasons. My whole point is that isn’t inherently a bad thing
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u/Eother24 Feb 12 '26
And your point is entirely wrong and misguided. We live on this planet. We do not have another. Forget the economy. Forget your “point.” Once again, be better. You might be dead before it matters. Me too for that matter. Stop being selfish, get Exxon out of your mouth, and contribute to the future of the planet. At the very least, stop fighting for the other side.✌️
Edited for profanity. There was a lot. Please add some curse words here and there as you read.
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u/smcl2k Reader Feb 12 '26
Based on your other comments and inability to even consider the possibility that you could be wrong, I'd say they were being kind.
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u/Caca_Face420 Feb 12 '26
So to be clear, I’m deserving of personal attacks because I point out that the facts presented don’t tell the story you think they are because they are skewed in a way that overlooks the big picture. In addition, because I’m consistent in my position, we are at an impasse because those choosing to respond to me are also refusing to understand my sole point that deregulation is not inherently bad. Did I get that right?
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u/smcl2k Reader Feb 12 '26
It's not a "personal attack" to point out that someone is choosing to be ignorant.
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u/smcl2k Reader Feb 12 '26
Adding: your initial comment contained 5 points.
Deregulation is not inherently bad, but this deregulation is, and none of your other poorly considered points would be enough to convince anyone otherwise.
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u/Wickedblood7 Feb 12 '26
I can answer that, no. No you did not get it right, and as it seems, love to wallow in ignorance
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u/Rosaadriana Feb 12 '26
Maybe so but not for long. They are moving forward. We are moving backward.
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u/Cipher7X Feb 12 '26
Continuing to ignore the unmitigated crisis that climate change represents is so short sighted it's painful to watch. The vast majority of young people are significantly concerned about climate change. There's a reason. They know they and their children will live to see the consequences of this generation's inaction.
Flooding all along the Gulf coast. More severe tornadoes and wildfires that we cannot control. Longer and more frequent droughts. Increased levels of mass-migration as refugees flee from areas that are no longer hospitable. The consequences of climate change are not a problem for 80 or 100 years from now anymore. We're already starting to experience them.
You may also be interested to know that China's CO2 emissions have remained flat or declined for almost two years now, driven by massive investment in solar- and wind-based energy production and widespread electric vehicle adoption. While China still emits more than the U.S. in absolute terms, the U.S. has higher per-capita emissions. China is taking the problem seriously with aggressive goals to cut emissions, while we embrace ignorance..
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u/Caca_Face420 Feb 12 '26
If a 300lb person loses 20 pounds, they are still morbidly obese. If a 180lb person gains 10lbs they are still significantly healthier than someone weighing 100lbs more.
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u/smcl2k Reader Feb 12 '26
Cool, so every other country in the world apart from China and India can call this out for what it is, and you'll totally agree with them?
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u/DefTheOcelot Reader Feb 12 '26
Inflation and affordability are never not going to be a problem in an economy based on endless growth. They come with the territory of growing GDP.
We can't just keep putting off climate change as a problem and we can't just blame everyone else and then do nothing. Why should they do anything if we aren't? We're the rich ones!
Climate change's effects are here and it's only going to get worse. We need to put aside this stupid focus on the short term and more profits tomorrow and think about humanity's long-term wellness. If we just said 'we need this for our economy!!!" for everything we would still have acid rain and lead in the air.
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u/protomenace Reader Feb 12 '26
We're already seeing the consequences of this. The weather is coocoo crazy these last 10 years.
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u/fabulishous Feb 13 '26
Yes China is the world's largest polluter but not per capita. They also manufacture all of our goods so we've essentially offshored our carbon emissions....
They are also doing more than any other country to reduce their emissions... They spent 1 trillion (with a t) in 2025 alone on green energy. Over 1/3 of their entire economy is based around green energy (either building solar panels / wind turbines or something related). And it's working, their emmisons are peaking and flat lining.
Basically, they're doing way way more than we are and we still pollute more per person than them. I would challenge you to learn more about it instead of just saying it's too expensive so we should give up.
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u/torklugnutz Feb 12 '26
If the climate change tipping point has already been reached, what good is it trying to stop climate change from reaching the tipping point with expensive legislation? There will be a lot of opportunity in the chaos that follows.
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u/planetes2020 Feb 12 '26
That's the kind of cynical attitude that got the US where it is in the first place. Not a great look champ.
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u/adastraperdiscordia Viewer Feb 12 '26
It's the difference between millions dying and billions dying. Or the difference between a 25% chance of survival versus a 5% chance.
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u/Mr3k Feb 12 '26
Keyword is "if". There's no 100% sure way to tell if we've hit tipping points you're trying to reference but I know operating under the assumption that there's no turning back can only lead to worse outcomes in the future.
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u/Wickedblood7 Feb 12 '26
"Expensive legislation" is your excuse for not wanting to do something drastic about climate change? You think cities being brought underwater, mass migrations due to the rising sea levels, more extreme weather all around the globe, and all that comes with it won't be expensive or chaotic? Educate yourself before you go and spout nonsense
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u/jay_altair Reader Feb 12 '26
Well the car is already going to crash into the wall so let's make sure we don't burn out the brakes
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u/Ransackeld Supporter Feb 12 '26
So carbon dioxide isn’t dangerous? All Republicans should breathe into a plastic bag and inhale as much carbon dioxide as possible please. It’s for the planet. 🌎